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1magine · Thread Author #1 09-22-2010, 11:05 AM

what? Take a look at this: YouTube - HTC Desire HD - A Closer Look

This is coming out the same time the Odin refresh is expected. Has RIM really just entirely abandoned any position in the mid-high range of smartphone devices?

2005CTS · #2 09-22-2010, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 1magine

what? Take a look at this: YouTube - HTC Desire HD - A Closer Look

This is coming out the same time the Odin refresh is expected. Has RIM really just entirely abandoned any position in the mid-high range of smartphone devices?

It appears so. If RIM brings us an ODIN Refresh and holds the real Storm 3 upgrade for another six months...they will cease to be relevant in the smart phone scene. The Storm3 no matter how good - will fail to find an audience worthy of the effort to bring it out when you consider what HTC and Apple have coming out next spring.

gregerator · #3 09-22-2010, 11:49 AM

Six months IS next Spring. So if they wait six months, and it matches what Apple and HTC put out, there shouldn't be an issue.

3rdpig · #4 09-22-2010, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by gregerator

Six months IS next Spring. So if they wait six months, and it matches what Apple and HTC put out, there shouldn't be an issue.

The question is, will it even match what Apple and HTC/Samsung/Moto are putting out right now?

howarmat · #5 09-22-2010, 05:49 PM

this device is not meant to compete with ANYTHING out in the market today except for maybe the eris, iphone 3g, and maybe a palm pre lmao

JamWar · #6 09-22-2010, 05:51 PM

htc makes some great looking phones.

Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com

1magine · Thread Author #7 09-22-2010, 07:40 PM

Nothing BB has out now, I thik compares to the last genration of Android devices, all of which I now believe have been upped to 2.2. I like my S2, but steal my kid's Incrdible vey chance I get. For the frst time, since I got the S1 on launch day, I am considerng splitting devices. My company mandatd BB just for BES, and phone, personal e-mail, music and applicatons on Android, and continue to lobby my company to move from BES to Exchange Server.

1magine · Thread Author #8 09-22-2010, 07:46 PM

Prior to Storm, I had 8700g and before that 7250 and carried a seperate phone and mp3 player, I moved to Storm as an all in one solution to simplify my life. But the browser and OS have not moved all that much from the earliest devices.

Pearl9100 · #9 09-23-2010, 01:24 AM

it cannot match android. at least not top tiered android phones. they are bringing dual core processor phones. i drool over those phones

but, no matter what, BB will not have a phone that can compete spec wise (rim hasnt even broken the 1ghz barrier yet!). they are practicing this efficient dynamics mantra (just like bmw

), so they will put the bare bones spec. at least, thats what i suspect and its what rim has been practicing since it has been in business. its a safe bet imo.

TEP · #10 09-23-2010, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by 1magine

My company mandatd BB just for BES, and phone, personal e-mail, music and applicatons on Android, and continue to lobby my company to move from BES to Exchange Server.

BES (BlackBerry Enterprise Server) connects to an email server whether it be Lotus Notes, GroupWise, or Exchange to provide the wireless sync between the BlackBerry device and email system. A BES server would not work without an email system to connect too.

howarmat · #11 09-23-2010, 09:15 AM

i guessing he means get rid of the BES and just use the exchange server since android and apple and even BB can still connect to the exchange server without BES

TEP · #12 09-23-2010, 09:21 AM

Maybe, I can see that is possibly what was meant when moving from BES to Exchange. ActiveSync is the protocol on Exchange that allows Apple and Android devices to connect wirelessly. I have never seen a BlackBerry make use of this connection. A BlackBerry can use Outlook Web Access to get two-way sync of email but that is it. ActiveSync is Microsoft's answer to BES and BESX.

Let me clarify my comment about BlackBerry and ActiveSync as not being possible. There are a few applications that can allow a BlackBerry device to connect using ActiveSync but nothing natively from RIM on the BlackBerry allows this connection, only Outlook Web Access.