[BlueFyre]

Since we're all blackberry users, I just want to know what would be best for me. I'm a fan of WoW but I don't need to play it, the laptop will be for school, my ipod, and my blackberry.

Please inform me??

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[Jared DiPane]

hm. depends. if your looking for something most friendly with the blackberry, PC is the way to go.

If you want something easier with the ipod, Mac.

What are you going to be majoring in at school, anything art like or editing?

[MOESTEPP]

I HAVE 4 MAC's and 1 dell... My son played wow on his mac mini and loves it, he has a blackberry storm, i have the curve we run parellel for updating bb os. But we sync all contacts and calender with pocket mac...plus he sync is itunes to his storm. NO VIRUS ON MAC..TURN IT ON AND GO TO WORK...TURN A DELL ON A TROUBLESHOOT IT AND TRY AND FIGURE OUT WHY YOU HAVE THE BLUE SCREEN OF DEALTH!

[BlueFyre]

I'm going to school for nursing.

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[thinkamp]

You could probably just wing it with a PC. Macs a better for graphics, music, etc. Plus if you got a Mac and want to update your OS you have to download windozzze to your Macbook and that for me is a big fat no-no. So I would say go for a PC unless you don't mind downloading windows to a Mac.

[Goon]

Save your money. PC laptops are on sale all the time for around $400. 1/3rd the price of a MAC book. Why fork out a wad of money just to have to buy Windows anyway?

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[redsoxrocker]

If you like performing surgery on your blackberry lol (like taking out default themes etc) I would go for a pc. If you just want a computer to sync stuff to, I think a Mac will work, or at least it does for my friend.

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[Bargsbeer]

I use a Macbook with my Bold. Macs just work no need for anti-virus software,pop up blockers or drivers.

Macs are an acquired taste there not for everyone.

[thinkamp]

Save your money. PC laptops are on sale all the time for around $400. 1/3rd the price of a MAC book. Why fork out a wad of money just to have to buy Windows anyway?

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Or you can fork out the money and not buy windozzze!

[laxattack]

why not buy a pc that can run os x more info go to insanelymac.com
i have 2 pcs that run OS X natively its awesome its like having a mac without the pricetag

[skyrider007]

Go for a Mac and install Windows XP on it via Boot Camp. You get the best of both world.

[infamyx]

Dear OP,

I recently heard you were in the market for a new computer. Allow me to dispel a few myths for you.

1. Macs are not any better at graphics processing, or photo editing, or movie editing that a PC can do, also no 64bit support for Photoshop on mac without windows = slower than PC.
2. Macs are not immune to viruses or any other garbage most macfags tend to spew. They get hit just as well.
3. Macs crash, just like PCs do, just sayin...this isnt a valid point that the mac commercials tend to bring up.
4. If your a gamer like you said, this is a no brainer PC > Mac
5. You'll end up buying Windows eventually
6. For a comparable mac, your spending atleast 1k for a bare bones model while on a PC your way ahead of the curve (albeit resolution/display is inferior) with atleast 300 dollars to spare if not more with the same or more processing power.
7. Upgrades will break the bank, if you want your laptop to perform like a star you'd better be ready to drop big money. Just look at RAM prices for these things.
8. Dont be a ****** and take care of your PC and you wont have issues with it. Meaning stay off porn/pirated **** and sites which are notorious for people getting hacked.
9. If you buy a new PC, immediately reformat it to take all the "advertisement software" off. They load this garbage on there to bring the laptops cost down. Start anew and you'll never have any problems.

Now for using an ipod...if your just dropping music then i dont see an issue with using a PC since it works just as well, unless there are features that having a mac gives ipod users (iLife support or something?)

Simply put if you cant afford a Mac, its wise not to get one. A PC well taken care of is cheaper initially and in the long run with just as much power if you go up in price. Dont go trying to fit in with the kids at school/starbucks/panera/wherever kids hang out nowadays if your wallet cant afford it.

[mconk]

I should also note that Boot Camp comes FREE on all new macs. I have a MacBook Pro that's about 14 months old now...with proper maintenence its still running as if it were fresh out of the box, and I just realized I had boot camp on there too...installed it the other day, and it runs windows on my laptop faster than my gf's desktop! I myself am a huge apple fan, have been using apple computers since a very young age. Macs are not all for pro music and pro graphic users, macs are also tailored towards light, casual users. The internet, email, music, photos and more all simply WORK right out of the box. Mac OSX comes with almost every piece of software that you'll need to keep your digital life organized. An update to OSX is expected this summer, and should be bringing some very dramatic speed enhancements. I use a PC at work, so don't get me wrong, I am not biased, to me its simply user preference. A lot of ppl mention the "no virus" thing...I've never had a virus on my work PC either, although its true the chances of being infected are slim to none in reality with OSX, but its still possible to be vulnerable if you're not careful. When I used to use IRC very heavilly back in the day, I came across a hacker that I befriended...this person sent me scripts that would allow me to work my way into the hard drive of any other computer on my network, so that I could store files, and run an IRC server/bot with that coputer. Macs are succeptable to this, as all operating systems are...no need to worry if you're careful though. The common trojan or worm that affects the windows world will do no harm to OSX. At the end of the day, it really is user preference. Both computers will do what you need, but one will do it better/faster/cleaner, and simpler...in YOUR opinion.

Go for a Mac and install Windows XP on it via Boot Camp. You get the best of both world.

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[waldog]

Macs are not for everyone. They also aren't superior like mac guys say. Get a laptop with xp and you're all set. The pc is almost always better imo for the multi task/options/more choices if you need it. What's the point in paying more for a mac and then running boot camp on it?

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[D2G]

2. Macs are not immune to viruses or any other garbage most macfags tend to spew. They get hit just as well.

To clarify this point, there were viruses back in the older Macintosh operating systems, like OS 9 and older, but there have been no viruses for OS X. This does not mean that Macs running OS X won't be susceptible to viruses in the future.

That being said trojans can affect Macs easily in OS X, but by their definition trojans are not viruses. For a trojan to do harm, the user must install it and type in their administrator password to authorize the install.

I use both a Windows XP PC and Macs, since I have computing needs that each can do better than the other, in my opinion.

[mconk]

Boot Camp is free and comes with any new Mac, to allow programs like RIM's Desktop Manager to run natively. Until RIM completes their OSX version. That's the point. If you want multitasking, and options, OSX is your best bet. Have you ever sat down and used OSX for an extended period of time? I hate when people who have never touched the OS make baseless claims from what they've read on the intetnet or "heard" from other people.

Macs are not for everyone. They also aren't superior like mac guys say. Get a laptop with xp and you're all set. The pc is almost always better imo for the multi task/options/more choices if you need it. What's the point in paying more for a mac and then running boot camp on it?

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[waldog]

Boot Camp is free and comes with any new Mac, to allow programs like RIM's Desktop Manager to run natively. Until RIM completes their OSX version. That's the point. If you want multitasking, and options, OSX is your best bet. Have you ever sat down and used OSX for an extended period of time? I hate when people who have never touched the OS make baseless claims from what they've read on the intetnet or "heard" from other people.

I have used osx for long periods of time. It sucked imo. And just because boot camp is free, doesn't mean the windows that needs to be installed with it is. Windows has way more apps and games and such, so wouldn't that make the pc better for multitasking/use? Why, yes it would! And you never hear of pc guys trying to use a boot camp/some crap method to run osx, it's always the other way around, thus must mean something.

I knew I shouldn't of replied to this thread. Knowing some mac nerds would come here trying to mac up on pc recommending people. .

[skyrider007]

For Mac vs PC debate, I suggest the OP visit Mac Rumors: Apple Mac Rumors and News You Care About where there is a comprehensive archives of all things Mac related information.

[mconk]

Yikes...all of the points you've made ESPECIALLY including the last point about the cost over time, are very very blatanly wrong. You're giving this poor kid your opinion, and not facts. Microsoft recently released garbage...I mean, a report...that made the same baseless claims that you are below. I'm wondering if you're pulling your info from the same report, because within minutes of the report being released, it was IMMEDIATELY discredited both by mac, and pc gurus. Here's the link...go take a peek. These are FACTS, and not opinions.

Dear OP,

I recently heard you were in the market for a new computer. Allow me to dispel a few myths for you.

1. Macs are not any better at graphics processing, or photo editing, or movie editing that a PC can do, also no 64bit support for Photoshop on mac without windows = slower than PC.
2. Macs are not immune to viruses or any other garbage most macfags tend to spew. They get hit just as well.
3. Macs crash, just like PCs do, just sayin...this isnt a valid point that the mac commercials tend to bring up.
4. If your a gamer like you said, this is a no brainer PC > Mac
5. You'll end up buying Windows eventually
6. For a comparable mac, your spending atleast 1k for a bare bones model while on a PC your way ahead of the curve (albeit resolution/display is inferior) with atleast 300 dollars to spare if not more with the same or more processing power.
7. Upgrades will break the bank, if you want your laptop to perform like a star you'd better be ready to drop big money. Just look at RAM prices for these things.
8. Dont be a ****** and take care of your PC and you wont have issues with it. Meaning stay off porn/pirated **** and sites which are notorious for people getting hacked.
9. If you buy a new PC, immediately reformat it to take all the "advertisement software" off. They load this garbage on there to bring the laptops cost down. Start anew and you'll never have any problems.

Now for using an ipod...if your just dropping music then i dont see an issue with using a PC since it works just as well, unless there are features that having a mac gives ipod users (iLife support or something?)

Simply put if you cant afford a Mac, its wise not to get one. A PC well taken care of is cheaper initially and in the long run with just as much power if you go up in price. Dont go trying to fit in with the kids at school/starbucks/panera/wherever kids hang out nowadays if your wallet cant afford it.

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[mconk]

Here's the link : What Price Cool? Mac vs. PC - Columns by PC Magazine

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[mconk]

By the way, some people mentioned RAM prices...I bumped up my MacBook Pro, 5 months ago, from 2GB to 4GB RAM. The 4GB sticks(two x 2GB) cost me $38 shipped. The company I bought the RAM from also sent a shipping label and box so I could ship my old RAM to them and they gladly bought it back for a reasonable price. The company is OWC, and its only one of many similar companies out there. So again, please only post if you have FACTS! I will link to their exact website if necessary. I am getting sick and tired of people only making statements that they think are true simply because they like a certain thing, and want others to join then. Baseless claims do not help anyone here folks. Give the facts, and let the end user decide...after all, I've already said this is simply user preference at the end of the day. But let's be clear on FACTUAL information-not what we've "heard".

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[waldog]

Seems as mconk is here to provide macs a safe harbor. Oh, well. Mac guys always and I mean ALWAYS defend a mac. Let the dude get what he wants.

[mconk]

Your statement at the end of your post was not necessary. If you've read all of my posts, you'd be clear that I am trying to get this guy FACTUAL knowledge. Boot Camp comes free, and loaded with Windows XP on all new macs. You don't have to go out and purchase windows unless you want to run a different copy. I have never had to use Boot Camp, although I have installed it just to say I have used it. The "windows has more apps and games" argument seems outdated to me. OSX ships on the computer with pretty much any app the average user would need. If you're a pro user, you can go out and purchase any addtl apps, just like you would if you had bought a new PC. You don't make a relevant point here, as this argument is dated now. I am not trying to start an argument, be an apple fanboy, or "flame" but I would like to get the facts out there to people who continually repeat the same tired argument over and over again, when factually speaking, the argument is baseless.

By the way, if you've used OSX, you must really hate Windows 7 or Vista...because microsoft has once again damn near copied several of OSX's built in features....lol. Oh well. I'm not going back and forth with people, because I'm not one of those people who live in message boards flaming and starting "online wars". That's lame. I will however present the facts, to get some common misconseptions out of peoples heads. I don't understand why people won't shake these old theories out of their heads and just accept what's true! If you don't believe me, and you really care that much to prove a point, go to an apple store, browse the s/w catalog, and then use one of the computers for some time. Then come back, and apologize to me simple as that!

I have used osx for long periods of time. It sucked imo. And just because boot camp is free, doesn't mean the windows that needs to be installed with it is. Windows has way more apps and games and such, so wouldn't that make the pc better for multitasking/use? Why, yes it would! And you never hear of pc guys trying to use a boot camp/some crap method to run osx, it's always the other way around, thus must mean something.

I knew I shouldn't of replied to this thread. Knowing some mac nerds would come here trying to mac up on pc recommending people. .

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[BlueFyre]

Thanks for all the info everyone!! keep it coming, I'm still doing all the research I can! I'm still unsure.... I don't know how long it's gonna take me to save up for a Mac, but I also want to put my investment somewhere long term, which could go either way.

[mconk]

What kind of budget are you looking at? Also, do you prefer a desktop, or laptop? And what will your day to day needs be?

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