[shreyans_qt]

I am sorry if this has already been asked.. I tried a lot finding a similar problem.. but couldn't..

I have a Playbook which I upgraded to OS 2.1.0.560. And now, I want to root it and install Android Market basically. It would also be nice to know rest of the possibilities after rooting.

The Main Question.

Is Playbook OS 2.1.0.560 rootable? Do I have to downgrade it first? if yes, then how?

Thanks a lot!

Any help will be appreciated..

Shreyans Jain

[xsacha]

Only 2.0.0.4869/2.0.0.6149 are rootable.

[shreyans_qt]

Only 2.0.0.4869/2.0.0.6149 are rootable.

Is there any way I can downgrade my playbook from 2.1.0.560 to 2.0.0.4869?

[SifJar]

Is there any way I can downgrade my playbook from 2.1.0.560 to 2.0.0.4869?

No.

(Irritating that I must use more than 10 characters in this post, when the original 3 did the job fine...)

[malwayne66]

actually i believe one can force a downgrade on the PlayBook. We will try to provide a link or a tutorial soon.

[Anvil2k12]

actually i believe one can force a downgrade on the PlayBook. We will try to provide a link or a tutorial soon.

an explosive content in a small line, because you are the only one
who stands opposite all 'no' sayer allover in this forum.

could you provide slightly more details about the direction its going (Dingleberry 4?)

lets hope the RIM empire is not striking back much quicker than they did
the last time when they became aware of root-subversives

regards
Damian

[SifJar]

actually i believe one can force a downgrade on the PlayBook. We will try to provide a link or a tutorial soon.

Unless you can provide some sort of evidence of that, I refuse to believe it. No one else can do it, I see no reason you would be able to.

[Anvil2k12]

malwayne66 - no reply for safety reasons?

or did you trip over the first line of
Dingleberry jailbreak where it says
"Dingleberry 4.0 is still being worked on! No ETA but i promise it's coming. Check back for updates! and follow me below on twitter"

mate, that was 3 month ago!

Damian

[RicThot]

malwayne66 - no reply for safety reasons?

or did you trip over the first line of
Dingleberry jailbreak where it says
"Dingleberry 4.0 is still being worked on! No ETA but i promise it's coming. Check back for updates! and follow me below on twitter"

mate, that was 3 month ago!

Damian

When even the hackers start ignoring a device, you know it's dying a painful slow death...
CWM obviously has no more interest in the PB - his last tweet was probably a couple months ago when he said "Yeah I know - dingleberry"... sounds like damn will they forget about this soon?

I guess it would also be pretty easy to say the Playbook is too big of a challenge for any serious hackers - RIM may have scored on this one - they still lose at the end of the day though - their joke of an ecosystem is stagnant.

[Sith_Apprentice]

Unless you can provide some sort of evidence of that, I refuse to believe it. No one else can do it, I see no reason you would be able to.

I do believe its been stated that it CAN be downgraded, just not by tools that are available to the public. Without these tools it doesnt appear there is a method to downgrade.

[xoenik]

A solution would probably be to get a replacement playbook, but make sure it's brand new in the box.
And then follow the guide concerning rooting a brand new playbook.
Dingleberry 4 is possible in the future, but for now there is no easy root for the public.

[Anvil2k12]

I do believe its been stated that it CAN be downgraded, just not by tools that are available to the public. Without these tools it doesn't appear there is a method to downgrade.

in a way they can as re-writing on system level is not the
main problem as such. its what and where without causing
a fatal outcome.

the following is a guess, but it would explain why RIM
doesn't allow current old OS's to be worked with and
you need external help like cfp to avoid an update (see attach PBguts.jpg):

the whole OS which previously replaced the flashable
content of the NAND only, is now replaced by one which sets
anchor bits within the en-circulated area to zero/close/crc or
whatever. similar to the manipulation on tunnel ions
(field electron emission ) in EEProms e.g. like telephone cards
which become less worth after money spent.

simple - it was some kind of bios flash camouflaged as
update (or can anybody confirm similar 'benefits' on that side?).

I'll try to disassemble several PB-OS and try to tell
the alleged update-disguise, which should be offset-wise
similar to the others from the from the one now which
'deals' somewhere else.

experts here - please tell me whether I am wasting my time
with that...

regards
Damian

[zeveroth]

Unless you can provide some sort of evidence of that, I refuse to believe it. No one else can do it, I see no reason you would be able to.

While I doubt that the claims are true until proof is shown, I don't understand why you assume that because no one else has can do it yet that the poster him/herself can not do it. This type of negativity gets us no where. I had seen it on may occasions for the group over on a wii site that your handle is used. So until the poster is proven to be either true to the word or flat out a liar it only makes sense to curb what we say. Take Math from the PS3 scene as a good example of not flaming the people who make claims as such until proven either way.

[JTATL]

Downgrading OS was a bug that RIM fixed with the update, once you update you cant backdate the OS.

[Anvil2k12]

Downgrading OS was a bug that RIM fixed with the update, once you update you cant backdate the OS.

why do you call it a 'bug'?
that's the only one users appreciated from RIM until 2.0.1

Damian

[JTATL]

yes a bug because being able to do that is a security vulnerability.

[Anvil2k12]

...being able to do that is a security vulnerability.

ouch!

is it possible you just battologize what's been spread from RIM
and quoted allover in the web (google it)? that phrase is always
used from companies to calm critical users down...

if not, than there might be hope RIM, Apple and so forth will soon
extinct the bugs in their terms and conditions which forwards
our private security and vulnerability to third parties...

Damian

[mkaa00x]

Kk let me make a statement here, rooting is possible except the reason we can't at this moment is because we do not have the official rim signing app. if we did or found the key it hides or even make a program that does what the rim packager is supposed to do we can easily rot the playbook. the only way we are going to get rim to give us that app is when the playbook runs out of buissness. thus allowing us to do even more with the playbook, maybe even unlock the bootloader so we can install other os simultaneously. Remember the HP tablet running web os or so i remember, when they ran out of buissness they released all the software even a virtual machine of the original os and then finally they rooted and got further into compatability with android and stuff, it's just a matter of time

[russworman]

RIM won't release the signing app as they have a 10" tablet, refreshed 7" tablet, some sorta laptop, and the new phones coming by Q1 2013 (phones and tablets at least)... They are not going bankrupt anytime soon and if, though highly unlikely, BB10 completely flops and they lose obscene amounts of customers then the most you likely will see is a licensing of BB10 to other cell phone manufacturers.

[mkaa00x]

just the pb

[russworman]

just the pb

PlayBook is going to run BB10... RIM has never allowed rooting and if you find a way, which I highly doubt, it will be plugged quickly. You must consider that even DingleBerry has been abandoned...

[Anvil2k12]

...You must consider that even DingleBerry has been abandoned...

where can I find that information?

I'd appreciate xsascha could give us some signs of dingleberry-life (if so)
because he signs his posts still as
Developer of ReQognise (on AppWorld), Dingleberry and other Qt apps.

unfortunately he is not responding to my recent question of old dingleberry either -
Dingleberry stubborn? - so this branch really may have dried out

if these guys from RIM are as clever as Bill Gates was at a time
they should make him an offer he can't refuse

Damian

[SCrid2000]

I believe Sacha mentioned that he knew a way that might work, but that it was highly likely to brick his PlayBook so he wasn't trying it... I could be wrong there.

[xsacha]

Yeah there's a way to reset it to 1.0.0 but it is too dangerous for me to attempt. I need my Playbook for a project I'm working on.

Basically you need to corrupt the filesystem using cfp so that it believes it has to do a factory refresh. Then it will be at 1.0.0 and will attempt to do an activation again. Then you can use the 'new playbook trick' using resetqnxosregion to get a rooted playbook.
Someone has reported success with this.

There are other methods I could explore if I didn't want to risk bricking.
For example: after upgrade to 10.x on Playbook, can downgrade again?

[koontzy65]

i'm willing to brick mine for the greater cause, testing what you said