[s0ul_sniper]

I recently switched from Verizon to sprint and dropped the storm because its a piece of ****. I got the tour but I keep playing with the pre where I work and it just seems amazing, so I was wondering whats everyones opinion on it because im within my 30 days to exchange.

[CNYSmartphoneAddict#WN]

I've played with each, and they both have their pluses and minuses, but I think it really boils down to your needs. The majority in this sub-forum would say the Pre, while the majority on the site would no doubt say the Tour.

I'd sit down, make a list of all the things you need and want a phone to do, and then look at each one and see how they can fit your needs.

The Tour seems to be maturing into a solid device with a proven (though dated) operating system, and the Pre is a bold new step for Palm and its available apps will start to grow like wildfire, especially with some updates slated for later this month.

Personally, I'm leaning toward the Pre, because I can see all the potential that it has.

[s0ul_sniper]

I downloaded the latest leak for the 5.0 tour and it just seemed to me like Blackberry doesnt get it about there web browser, and the one thing I really would enjoy doing is getting online with the pre because it just seems amazing.

[Coruptyed]

I downloaded the latest leak for the 5.0 tour and it just seemed to me like Blackberry doesnt get it about there web browser, and the one thing I really would enjoy doing is getting online with the pre because it just seems amazing.

The pre's browser is very quick, kinda saddens me that blackberries isnt, even youtube on the pre can load, load the video you want to play quicker then blackberry can load the youtube site..

[techsamaritan]

I have the iPhone 2+3g. I've had 3 blackberries and now have the Pre. I LOVE this phone!
1) WAY better reception for me on Sprint than AT&T and the iPhone! (Note, iPhone has the apps and a great media player, and if it had better reception, i would've stayed).
2) Multitasking is AWESOME!
3) HTML Emails look beautiful.
4) New App store will make this phone complete.
5) FAR better Web Browser

My only issues with this Pre is that this is my 4th one. Sigh, this is making me second guess it only because of the hardware issues. The keyboard is cramped. My only issues.

Other than that, the Pre is an excellent phone! I'm very happy with it.

[Coruptyed]

I have the iPhone 2+3g. I've had 3 blackberries and now have the Pre. I LOVE this phone!
1) WAY better reception for me on Sprint than AT&T and the iPhone! (Note, iPhone has the apps and a great media player, and if it had better reception, i would've stayed).
2) Multitasking is AWESOME!
3) HTML Emails look beautiful.
4) New App store will make this phone complete.
5) FAR better Web Browser

My only issues with this Pre is that this is my 4th one. Sigh, this is making me second guess it only because of the hardware issues. The keyboard is cramped. My only issues.

Other than that, the Pre is an excellent phone! I'm very happy with it.

please dont go around spamming you posted the same thing four times

[that_maynard]

I had the Pre, loved the WebOS! Great, looked sharp and the swiping was easy. I have never owned a BB, but everyone that I have talked to, loved theirs. I just joined with Sprint and wanted a data plan, so I tried the Pre with all the promotions that they have I had to give it a try. I came from an all touch phone prior with Verizon and it was 10 times better than the Pre. Now I only owned the phone for 2 weeks, but I found it easier to type a message on my previous phone, (LG Dare) than the Pre. Maybe I needed to calibrate it, but while you are surfing around on the net, you had to zoom in a few times to get to the place that you were looking for or you would have to tap it 3 or 4 times. The pinching option was neat, but no thank you. I was getting cramped fingers with all the messaging and emails that I was sending that I was debating the TOUR, heard great things. The Pre would freeze a few times and stutter so I was planning on taking it back to get it checked out when I was surfing on the browser and it crashed....I couldn't get it to to turn on until I plugged it in, (something that I was familiar with because you had to charge it every 12 hours). I got the phone back on and went into the local Sprint store and made the jump to the TOUR, right before they were going to transfer all my contacts the phone shut off and it took them an hour to figure out how to turn it back on. That was a sign, I have had the Tour for almost a month now and it is so much easier to use and I love not having a touchscreen. The browser isn't as cool as the WebOS, but it does what I need it to, be a phone.
Oh, that is another thing, when your busy and want to ignore a call on the Pre when you go to see who it was, it automatically calls the number back!!! Hated it. No more touch screens for this guy.

The Tour is a solid phone and it does what I need it to, hello Blackberry world, I shall be with you for a long time. Hopefully this helps someone out.

[papped]

The Tour is a great phone, but the trackball is dismal... Ended up in me getting rid of the phone. The trackpads are so much better it's not even funny.

WebOs works great in some senses, but is seriously lacking in others.
Pros:
-Amazing browser, rivals the iphone and beats android.
-Card UI is slick and easy to use.
-Gesture system works quite well once you get used to it.
-Multitasking works well.
-Great for media playback (youtube works great also)
-Nice selection of apps, even though it's somewhat limited right now.
-Email formatting is very good, looks better than BB.
-Screen is pretty large and vibrant, even though the device is small.
-Synergy is a good feature, but it can be annoying to get setup properly.

Cons:
-Customization? What customization.... Forget all you know about profiles, it doesn't exist. The most you have is basically the ringer switch. Themes are highly limited too, way more than BB. All you can change is icons and images.
-Slow transitions for some apps, like answering phone calls, opening emails, etc.
-The phone is only half as good or less without homebrew and patches.... You can't even do landscape emails, sms without patches.
-Lack of dpad or arrow keys hurts pretty bad for selecting or editing text... Also for games of course.
-No microsd expansion, but it does have 8gb internal.
-Lacks a virtual keyboard, which any other touchscreen phone has. There's a homebrew version, but it's not terribly great.
-Keyboard isn't nearly as good as BB, but it's usable for a decent amount of text entry.

The tour isn't exactly problem free either with the horrible os 4.7.1 (better upgrade to a leaked OS5) and unreliable trackball.

I'm probably gonna end up selling my Pre since I went for the 8530 recently. I like it a lot but BB is much easier to use for sms, email and IM. The browser is top notch on the Pre though, I will definitely miss it.

[Schm1dty]

Okay, I have a pre right now, here are my veiws:
Pros:
-Sexy. Don't lie, if a phone doesn't look good, no one is going to buy it. This phone looks elegant.
-Multitasking like no other.
-Touch screen.
-Quick browser
-Very nice camera

Cons:
-Poor build quality
-keyboard is laughable
-Social networking apps are horrible (facebook app is the worst)
-everything just seems to be....slow
-Battery life is a tad low

Now, I am probably going to return my pre for the Tour2. BB's apps are just more complete for things I need. Such as the facebook app, twitter apps, and email. Also, I am a messanger, SMS, IM, and email all shine on the blackberry.

[eharty]

I started with the Pre last July.
Pros
- Terrific screen
- I actually liked the keyboard
- webOS potential is terrific
- very intuitive multitasking
- excellent browser
- HTML Email
Cons
- build quality
- lack of customization
- built in PIM apps are a joke and I don't think there are replacements yet
- not many useful apps available
- battery life is not very good
- speakerphone was crap

After 30 days I returned it and got a BlackBerry Tour
Pros
- mature OS...very few bugs
- nice but small screen
- build in PIM apps are OK and there are 3rd party options if you want more
- battery life
- Email is very functional if not very nice to look at
- Excellent call quality & speakerphone

Cons
- build quality...I am on my 3rd Tour due to trackball problems
- web browser is mediocre. Opera mini helps but can't compete with the Pre
- boring OS (but it works)

The deal breaker for me was the PIM apps in the Pre. There was no way I could live without a decent task app and a responsive calendar app. So, I switched to the Tour. I have had some problems with the Tour but it is easier to fix a hardware problem than it is to fix missing PIM functionality in the Pre.

[jetisbac]

LOL. I feel bad for you man. Just in case you didnt know.. Verizon is getting the Palm Pre Plus on January 21st. It has 16GB instead of 8 and Palm finally put out PDK (plug-in development kit) that will allow game developers to start making great 3D games, and starting today, you’ll see games start appearing in the App Catalog from publishers like EA Mobile. All in all I would rather stay with the Pre. You left Verizon just because of the Storm?? and POS? MAybe one year ago. But with all these Hybrid leaks and 5.0... not exactly the smartest move

[papped]

The two big problems on the Pre are the customization and the speed issues, both of which aren't really fixed as of 1.3.5.1 (although some aspects of the speed got better in 1.3.5).

The customization is still pathetic and the app switching speed is still pretty slow.

I don't really get why they are pushing stuff like Flash and 3D gaming so hard, but leaving out really simple things like PIM, profiles, customization, etc. Very iphone-like scenario, where the phone does advanced things well but is lacking stupidly simple things at the same time...

[goat03]

I really enjoyed my tour but web browsing on the Pre is just amazing. I think once flash is out and what not, this thing is going to be unbeatable.