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    Default Time for BlackBerry to build an Android phone

    Windows Phone market share is growing. BlackBerry continues to fall behind, DESPITE bb10. Today, new numbers show that beyond a shadow of a doubt.

    Could BlackBerry not build an Android phone to capture the popular consumer market, while also keeping Bb10 as the high security option?

    With BBM going to Android, the time could be right to consider this. Hell, bb10 can even run Android apps, so it's not a completely unrealistic idea.



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    No thanks. BlackBerry will carve out its niche but it needs more than 6 months to do it

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    How about letting Samsung build a bb10 phone, then?

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    At no time should BlackBerry make an android phone. Ever.

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    Think should jump board WP8 instead.

    It will have better ties to the enterprise and Blackberry can then create their own enterprise solutions to run on top of WP8.

    Otherwise Blackberry will be just another Android phone in a long line of Android devices. WP8 has a small share right now but is growing - it's best to jump in on the ground floor. Plus since WP8 runs nicely on lesser hardware, Blackberry can release devices at a cheaper cost and get in on those emerging markets.
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    Who really is making money selling android phones. I notice that question is almost never comes up when people talk about android and blackberry. They talk about sales figures, but sales figures mean nothing if you are not making a profit. It is not okay for a company to be carrying around debt like it is the norm, as the whole point of starting a business is to profit from it.

    If you look at all the different companies that make android phones, I believe most of them are in the negative except for Samsung. If Blackberry went Android, why do people think it will sell in the first place. It will just be other Android os phone in the crowd. I rather see blackberry operate as a niche product and continue on its' course. Apple has been operating as a niche player for awhile in the computer business and I don't see why it can not work for Blackberry.

    I think the biggest issue for Blackberry is that it is a public traded company. If anything I would like to see Blackberry go private.
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    It's been a whole 6 months since it's been available. What's with this talk of going to a different platform? Good grief. Windows is now gaining traction after a couple of years on the market. Why does everyone expect BB10 to take off right out of the gate? It's new and has to attract new customers. That takes time... a lot more time than has passed too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChainPunch View Post

    If you look at all the different companies that make android phones, I believe most of them are in the negative except for Samsung.
    Oh god why does this keeps getting repeated? How does this even make sense. Did you ever ask yourself: if they are in the negative, why don't they just stop making phones then? Why are the number of Android phone vendors increasing rather than decreasing over time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by notfanboy View Post
    Oh god why does this keeps getting repeated? How does this even make sense. Did you ever ask yourself: if they are in the negative, why don't they just stop making phones then? Why are the number of Android phone vendors increasing rather than decreasing over time?
    True, HTC sold 7 millions HTC One in its first month.
    LG sold 13 millions phones in its last earning call.
    I heard the new Sony phone is doing great too.

    BlackBerry can't compete in the android field

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjcampbell View Post
    It's been a whole 6 months since it's been available. What's with this talk of going to a different platform? Good grief. Windows is now gaining traction after a couple of years on the market. Why does everyone expect BB10 to take off right out of the gate? It's new and has to attract new customers. That takes time... a lot more time than has passed too.
    Blackberry doesn't have the time or deep pockets that Microsoft does. BB can't wait 2 years for BB10 to gain traction. BB10 didn't have to sell like gangbusters 6 months in, but it had to do MUCH better than it's currently doing at this point.

    Blackberry better be making alternate plans (like getting ready to move to WP8) as the odds of a turn-around with BB10 are getting slimmer and slimmer by the minute.
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    The time for that decision would have been 3 years ago in 2010. We have long gone past that point and there is no turning back.

    The other question is what would a BlackBerry Android phone have over Samsung and HTC to make them viable in the sea of Android phones already out there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by berklon View Post
    Think should jump board WP8 instead.

    It will have better ties to the enterprise and Blackberry can then create their own enterprise solutions to run on top of WP8.

    Otherwise Blackberry will be just another Android phone in a long line of Android devices. WP8 has a small share right now but is growing - it's best to jump in on the ground floor. Plus since WP8 runs nicely on lesser hardware, Blackberry can release devices at a cheaper cost and get in on those emerging markets.
    Are you kidding me lol.. windows phone sucks

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    If I wanted android I'd buy android. OP, if you want android you have plenty to choose from.
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    Ya, being one of 50 android makers is genious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timq77 View Post
    Windows Phone market share is growing. BlackBerry continues to fall behind, DESPITE bb10. Today, new numbers show that beyond a shadow of a doubt.

    Could BlackBerry not build an Android phone to capture the popular consumer market, while also keeping Bb10 as the high security option?

    With BBM going to Android, the time could be right to consider this. Hell, bb10 can even run Android apps, so it's not a completely unrealistic idea.



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    My take the new lg phone will be a dud. Samsung right now anyways is android. And windows phone did not take off. They have been going at it longer than bb10. Give it another year. No rush.
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    It's not easy to enter in the consumer market, BlackBerry never was that popular for consumers, BlackBerry didn't participate in the consumerization of technology wave. Windows phones and tablets for companies could be a better strategy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wtz11 View Post
    At no time should BlackBerry make an android phone. Ever.

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    They already do and are moving to run even more Droid apps with BB10 and the Droid player.

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    A completely android phone is not necessary for BlackBerry to survive. They need to stay the course and keep costs low until they have the os where they want it. I believe that is why we haven't seen as much of a advertising push. I think the Z30 and 10.2 will change all of that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by russworman View Post
    A completely android phone is not necessary for BlackBerry to survive. They need to stay the course and keep costs low until they have the os where they want it. I believe that is why we haven't seen as much of a advertising push. I think the Z30 and 10.2 will change all of that.
    Another "wait for xxxxx" post.

    The Z30 and 10.2 will barely make any difference at all. A minor update to the OS and a bigger Z10 - how is that supposed to entice enough people to make a difference?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cjcampbell View Post
    It's been a whole 6 months since it's been available. What's with this talk of going to a different platform? Good grief. Windows is now gaining traction after a couple of years on the market. Why does everyone expect BB10 to take off right out of the gate? It's new and has to attract new customers. That takes time... a lot more time than has passed too.
    Windows 8 has been on the market for several years????

    BlackBerry has been on the market since 1997 if memory serves me. I've had one since 2003
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    Quote Originally Posted by D_March View Post
    If I wanted android I'd buy android. OP, if you want android you have plenty to choose from.
    Honest questions, are you running any sideloaded apps or any android ports?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tariq Nasir View Post
    Are you kidding me lol.. windows phone sucks

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    Quote Originally Posted by berklon View Post
    Another "wait for xxxxx" post.

    The Z30 and 10.2 will barely make any difference at all. A minor update to the OS and a bigger Z10 - how is that supposed to entice enough people to make a difference?
    I hardly call actionable notifications, parallax, WI Di, miracast, priority hub, usb otg, and the ability to run Jelly Bean apps (I'm thinking this will increase amount of ported apps) minor.

    On the phone side, I'm not seeing the 5.0" phone with bigger battery as not being a improvement also...

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    They should absolutely make an Android phone... And Android Q10!?

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    They shouldn't make any other type of phone. The success of blackberry lies in getting as much people on bb10 as possible. Not only selling as many devices as possible.

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