Should we be scard? (Windows Phone 8 Doesn’t Have A Notification Centre )

**mrfreetruth** · 11-04-2012, 11:47 PM

Should RIM be scared that microsoft doesn't have a noification Centre because it ran out of time? I for one hope BB10 has a notification centre but maybe it's ok to release a phone that's missing something like a notifiction centre. What do you guys think?

Windows Phone 8 Doesn’t Have A Notification Centre Because Microsoft ‘Ran Out of Time’

Windows Phone 8 Doesn’t Have A Notification Centre Because Microsoft ‘Ran Out of Time’ | Gizmodo Australia

**Dapper37** · 11-05-2012, 12:15 AM

Really, no notification center. They ran out of time? I thought MS had more developers and money than you can shake a phone at. What gives?
Rip them apart... Opps sorry its MS not RIM.. Its ok little softy... (smiling)

**TRlPPlN** · 11-05-2012, 12:38 AM

just a couple more months till we see bb10 shine.

**BBPandy** · 11-05-2012, 12:46 AM

?I thought people were talking about the Windows 8 notification centre as being a really good new experience (a few months ago when it was still coming soon)
So did they take it out then?

**qyk1010101** · 11-05-2012, 01:25 AM

i really hope microsoft creates a blackberry-hub sort of notification system

**qyk1010101** · 11-05-2012, 01:26 AM

or the iOS's drag down sort of system

**texazzpete** · 11-05-2012, 02:20 AM

Originally Posted by qyk1010101

or the iOS's drag down sort of system

Actually, Apple cribbed that from Android

**texazzpete** · 11-05-2012, 02:25 AM

Originally Posted by Dapper37

Really, no notification center. They ran out of time? I thought MS had more developers and money than you can shake a phone at. What gives?
Rip them apart... Opps sorry its MS not RIM.. Its ok little softy... (smiling)

WP8 saw Windows Phone move from the CE kernel to the NT kernel underpinning Windows 8. if you think that's a small task, think again.

It's actually a good sign that they admit this. They've released a pretty high quality OS on time. No central notification centre is a missing feature, but it's not that terrible since the Live tile system keeps notifications front and centre too. At least by admitting it was pretty high on their priority list, you just know it'll come in an update soon.

WP8 also brings carrier independent OTA updates so once MS is done with this update, it'll be pushed to all phones without the usual Android delay.

Finally, if by your last line you're trying to insinuate that the media has been kind to WP/MS, i'd advise you to move out from the rock you've been hiding under. Microsoft doesn't get a free pass from the tech media. Go check out the overly harsh reviews of the Surface from the likes of Gizmodo which is strongly at variance with actual user experience.

**belfastdispatcher** · 11-05-2012, 02:35 AM

Originally Posted by texazzpete

WP8 saw Windows Phone move from the CE kernel to the NT kernel underpinning Windows 8. if you think that's a small task, think again.

It's actually a good sign that they admit this. They've released a pretty high quality OS on time. No central notification centre is a missing feature, but it's not that terrible since the Live tile system keeps notifications front and centre too. At least by admitting it was pretty high on their priority list, you just know it'll come in an update soon.

WP8 also brings carrier independent OTA updates so once MS is done with this update, it'll be pushed to all phones without the usual Android delay.

Finally, if by your last line you're trying to insinuate that the media has been kind to WP/MS, i'd advise you to move out from the rock you've been hiding under. Microsoft doesn't get a free pass from the tech media. Go check out the overly harsh reviews of the Surface from the likes of Gizmodo which is strongly at variance with actual user experience.

It's not a good sign, they had all the time in the world and they threw plenty money at it.

People are fed up with buying a product in the hope they'll get software updates later, nobody falls for that anymore.

**texazzpete** · 11-05-2012, 06:15 AM

Originally Posted by belfastdispatcher

It's not a good sign, they had all the time in the world and they threw plenty money at it.

People are fed up with buying a product in the hope they'll get software updates later, nobody falls for that anymore.

The didn't have 'all the time in the world'. They had a year, tops. And the OS feels complete, with every major part in place.
Windows Phone had a pretty good track record when it comes to updates (except when it came to the major transition between CE and NT kernels). Ditto for iOS. People buy what works, and WP8 most definitely does work very well.
Once the apps come out, they'll be on par with the competition in every regard and exceed them in some.

**AluminiumRims** · 11-05-2012, 06:24 AM

Originally Posted by texazzpete

The didn't have 'all the time in the world'. They had a year, tops. And the OS feels complete, with every major part in place.
Windows Phone had a pretty good track record when it comes to updates (except when it came to the major transition between CE and NT kernels). Ditto for iOS. People buy what works, and WP8 most definitely does work very well.
Once the apps come out, they'll be on par with the competition in every regard and exceed them in some.

WP is over two years old so I would really say that they had a lot of time implementing this.

I would also say that I doubt the competence of Microsoft when it comes to creating a mobile operating system. It's been over 10 years now where MS tries to create a descent mobile OS and they failed constantly. Windows Mobile was actually in my opinion their best creation but they decided to go completely new, several times now since that. Also they seem to lack basic understanding, for example having the same volume setting for ring tone and multimedia is pretty basic common sense and I'm not sure if this is fixed in WP8 but it shouldn't take that long to begin with.

**bk1022** · 11-05-2012, 06:27 AM

At the end of the day, MS is releasing something and we still have no firm date from RIM. It's Movember already, doesn't RIM know when their phones will be on offer?

People won't hassle MS for a delay in one component. WP8 hasn't been delayed two years.

**qyk1010101** · 11-05-2012, 06:54 AM

Originally Posted by belfastdispatcher

It's not a good sign, they had all the time in the world and they threw plenty money at it.

People are fed up with buying a product in the hope they'll get software updates later, nobody falls for that anymore.

EXACTLY. At least they didn't say 60 days.

**texazzpete** · 11-05-2012, 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by AluminiumRims

WP is over two years old so I would really say that they had a lot of time implementing this.

They took time to change almost everything from scratch...moving from WInCE base to NT base. Most of the changes were under the hood to build a solid foundation for the platform to grow on. That takes time to put in place and they've managed that pretty well.

Don't forget that in the two years you talk about, they had to come up with TWO major updates. First to add Copy-paste and other system wide tweaks, the next to roll out WP 7.5 (mango) with a lot of added features. All that done in parallel with WP8, draining valuable resources.

Originally Posted by AluminiumRims

I would also say that I doubt the competence of Microsoft when it comes to creating a mobile operating system. It's been over 10 years now where MS tries to create a descent mobile OS and they failed constantly. .

'Failed constantly'? When did you start using smartphones? At it's high point, Windows mobile had 47% of worldwide smartphone shipments in 2007. I doubt RIM ever achieved that marketshare level worldwide.

The only bigger player in the world was Nokia's Symbian. Both Symbian and Windows Mobile were the tops those days.

Originally Posted by AluminiumRims

Also they seem to lack basic understanding, for example having the same volume setting for ring tone and multimedia is pretty basic common sense and I'm not sure if this is fixed in WP8 but it shouldn't take that long to begin with.

You're right. There are still many things that are missing...this link captures lots of 'em.

http://forums.wpcentral.com/windows-...ion/200095.htm

**mrfreetruth** · 11-05-2012, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by Dapper37

Really, no notification center. They ran out of time? I thought MS had more developers and money than you can shake a phone at. What gives?
Rip them apart... Opps sorry its MS not RIM.. Its ok little softy... (smiling)

You are 100% right if it was RIM it would be all over the news day and night. WP7 was a total flop and from a personal view point I had not seen a SINGLE USER of WP7....not one...NOT ONE SINGLE user...NOT one. Microsofe is known for making promises and not keeping them. or you can Trust them...LOL

**Masahiro** · 11-05-2012, 10:11 AM

Well, I was thinking of checking out the new phones, but not until they have some sort of notification hub.

**texazzpete** · 11-05-2012, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by mrfreetruth

You are 100% right if it was RIM it would be all over the news day and night. WP7 was a total flop and from a personal view point I had not seen a SINGLE USER of WP7....not one...NOT ONE SINGLE user...NOT one. Microsofe is known for making promises and not keeping them. or you can Trust them...LOL

You're gonna keep posting this on all articles where we're discussing WP8?

Anyway, WP7 is dead. Wp8 is here now. We'll know in the next couple of months how this next phase pans out for Microsoft.

**mithrazor** · 11-05-2012, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by bk1022

At the end of the day, MS is releasing something and we still have no firm date from RIM. It's Movember already, doesn't RIM know when their phones will be on offer?

People won't hassle MS for a delay in one component. WP8 hasn't been delayed two years.

You do realize they said it'll be available Q1 of 2012 right? Last time I checked, no one really announces a release date 3+ months ahead of time nowadays.

And just cause it hasn't been made public doesn't mean RIM doesn't know either. Your logic is flawed.

**belfastdispatcher** · 11-05-2012, 01:11 PM

If WPP8 is only a year old and clearly not finished, they should not release it.

But if also begs the question, what have they been doing since the days of WinMo if they have so much money to throw around?

**GTiLeo** · 11-05-2012, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by bk1022

At the end of the day, MS is releasing something and we still have no firm date from RIM. It's Movember already, doesn't RIM know when their phones will be on offer?

People won't hassle MS for a delay in one component. WP8 hasn't been delayed two years.

what OS was delayed 2 years? if you're saying BB10 was, you better get your facts right BB10 was announced that it was going to be used at dev con 2011 and the apparent claim was spring of 2012

**mrfreetruth** · 11-05-2012, 04:48 PM

Wow...lol every excuss for microsoft and yet they cry about every little thing RIM does and yet they pose as blackberry fans. I guess when you only have a handfull of fans you need to hang out on crackberry. Maybe WP8 might one day have more then 20 fans where you can start your own fan site. LOL...no notification Centre because they ran out of time...What a joke.

**cgk** · 11-06-2012, 01:43 AM

At this stage, we know that you have never seen a single WP7 user - because you cut and paste that statement into every thread.

**Balti43** · 11-06-2012, 02:43 AM

they should have delayed

**belfastdispatcher** · 11-06-2012, 03:21 AM

Microsoft should know that only Apple can get away with launching products with missing features.

**Masahiro** · 11-06-2012, 09:56 AM

Is every thread that has to do with Windows Phone 8 going to be titled some variance of "should we be scared"? What the heck would we feel scared about a phone for?