[Rumor] NOAA drops BlackBerry, embraces iPhone and iPad

[grncherry1]

Originally Posted by belfastdispatcher

It makes Sense for them to buy ipads but i doubt they'll be connected, they're replacing manuals really so there's no need for a security rating.

Playbooks would be too small anyway for the purpose.

You are absolutely correct, I served on C-130's for 8 years and the iPad is the perfect size for the application.

[app_Developer]

Originally Posted by kg4icg

Here is something to think about. There is only 1 tablet that has been certified to be used by the US government. All the others have failed the testing so far and that includes Apple's beloved iPad/iPad2.

That is not an absolute requirement. The final decision on using a platform is still left to each department or agency, whether it is FIPS certified or not. CIO's can (and do) choose to "accept the risk" and move forward with deployment because of some other advantage they see (e.g. custom apps, employee/agent satisfaction, cost)

[Palmless]

Originally Posted by OriginalLucy

It smells like Apple Corp is using their 67 billion dollar war chest to buy their competitions customers. It is an interesting situation. A few weeks ago, they were making a big deal about Apple making the lions share of their profits by producing 100% of their product in Asia and that they were not contributing to the healing of America. Now, Cheney's company, Haliburton, and NOAA are switching to iphone and pad with the assistance of Apple. PFFT, think what you will. Money talks, plain and simple.

Paranoia, it'll destroy ya - Ray Davies

We'll see when Apple has their next quarterly earnings call, but if the past is any predictor then Halliburton and NOAA paid VERY healthy margins to adopt the iPad. Apple isn't giving anything away.

They don't have to.

" not contributing to the healing of America. "

LOL. The country isn't hurting, that's just the daily news drone. Unemployment and poverty remain a choice in America, people freely choose them and we can't stop that. It isn't easy to be poor in America, but some manage.

[D_March]

Originally Posted by Palmless

Paranoia, it'll destroy ya - Ray Davies

We'll see when Apple has their next quarterly earnings call, but if the past is any predictor then Halliburton and NOAA paid VERY healthy margins to adopt the iPad. Apple isn't giving anything away.

They don't have to.

" not contributing to the healing of America. "

LOL. The country isn't hurting, that's just the daily news drone. Unemployment and poverty remain a choice in America, people freely choose them and we can't stop that. It isn't easy to be poor in America, but some manage.

Currently in the US there is one job available for every four job seekers.

[Economist101]

Originally Posted by kg4icg

I see it as a waste of time for the AirForce to buy these for charts, when they are built into the avionics mfd's on military aircraft and are updated by ground crew by way of hook up to datalinks on aircraft. Show me a ipad that has been built to toughbook standards?

Which is fine, except they didn't ask what you thought about their decision.

As for iPads built to "ToughBook" standards, I'm not aware of any tablet that fits the description, but feel free to enlighten me.

Originally Posted by belfastdispatcher

It makes Sense for them to buy ipads but i doubt they'll be connected, they're replacing manuals really so there's no need for a security rating.

Sales wise, this doesn't matter. Revenue is revenue.

Originally Posted by belfastdispatcher

Playbooks would be too small anyway for the purpose.

Yes, I'm sure that was the determinative factor.

[app_Developer]

Originally Posted by D_March

Currently in the US there is one job available for every four job seekers.

Yet in our business we can't find qualified people to hire and we're either resorting to big signing bonuses or the PITA visa process.

That's a general education and personal expectation problem we need to fix, not the fault of Apple or Dell or Walmart.

I don't think Apple could have scaled up from the expected 8 million phones in 2008 to 60 million iOS devices in a single quarter in any other country but China.

[D_March]

Originally Posted by app_Developer

Yet in our business we can't find qualified people to hire and we're either resorting to big signing bonuses or the PITA visa process.

That's a general education and personal expectation problem we need to fix, not the fault of Apple or Dell or Walmart.

I don't think Apple could have scaled up from the expected 8 million phones in 2008 to 60 million iOS devices in a single quarter in any other country but China.

I agree. Many of the unemployed do not have the right education for the available jobs.

[anthogag]

When Fusion finally comes out I suspect that will become the more popular route for device variety

[app_Developer]

Originally Posted by D_March

I agree. Many of the unemployed do not have the right education for the available jobs.

And in China the education and training system has been configured and built out very deliberately to support the next 20-30 years of their growth. And people's personal expectations are matched to their actual ability to produce.

Now, they haven't figured out how to truly make the next Apple, Google, Microsoft, Toyota, Daimler-Benz, Virgin, Sony, Hyundai, etc.

Yet.

(Yes, they have weak facsimiles now, but not companies/brands that can compete on the world stage. Yet.)

[Palmless]

Originally Posted by D_March

Currently in the US there is one job available for every four job seekers.

If only that were true!!!

Instead, we have to actually import workers for some jobs, due to our very high reservation wage system.

Originally Posted by app_Developer

And people's personal expectations are matched to their actual ability to produce.

Yep.

Ellen: "Well, he's been out of work for close to seven years."

Clark: "In seven years, he couldn't find a job?"

Ellen: "Catherine says he's been holding out for a management position."

[tchocky77]

Originally Posted by grncherry1

You are absolutely correct, I served on C-130's for 8 years and the iPad is the perfect size for the application.

I worked P-3's for five years. I never thought about it, but iPad's would be absolutely PERFECT for the pubs. So that's what the Air Force has in mind here? It's genius if that's the case. I'd look for iPads to be standard issue across the aviation community in a couple years.

[canuck_67]

once again the story is reported wrong.

the air force is looking for a Tablet type device to replace paper manuals. The number is quoted as between 63 and 18000. Price point is the main concern. Security will also be paramount as any operational data that will be stored and accessed will have to be secure.

The general goes on to say that several options are being investigated.

[Economist101]

Originally Posted by canuck_67

once again the story is reported wrong.

the air force is looking for a Tablet type device to replace paper manuals. The number is quoted as between 63 and 18000. Price point is the main concern. Security will also be paramount as any operational data that will be stored and accessed will have to be secure.

The general goes on to say that several options are being investigated.

True, but the last time the Air Force looked at tablets, there were a couple of critical issues. As per The Verge, they were as follows:

"When a separate Air Force division announced it was buying 2,861 of Apple's second generation tablet in December, it said that it needed something that worked with two iOS-only apps and had at least 64GB of internal memory — something few competitors can offer."

US Air Force might purchase up to 18,000 tablets to replace heavy flight manuals | The Verge

Obviously, if a decision had been made, they'd announce the decision and not merely the need, so no dispute there. But, if iOS security/price were considered a problem, I doubt the Air Force would have any iOS specific apps; it's not as though there weren't multiple options available at the time that last decision was made.

[kbz1960]

Guess it might be easier to leave an ipad lay around than the manual LOL. But really do these manuals contain top secret info or do they contain instructions?

[BlendIcier]

Originally Posted by grncherry1

You are absolutely correct, I served on C-130's for 8 years and the iPad is the perfect size for the application.

at 16:9 aspect ratio
Phone: 3.5 - 4" (wallet size)
Tablet on the go: 7 - 8" (paperback book size)
Tablet stationary: 14 - 16" (legal paper size)

If Steve Jobs were still alive, he would have changed his mind for sure by now and claimed this idea as his own. The iPad is just a limited feature notebook replacement and will have to evolve or go extinct as the hardware, then app gaps narrow