- 01-18-13, 03:05 PM #52
They are now upgrading it to a buy and one of the positive points they note is that it will have 70,000 apps at launch. We happen to know it's more then that now. They seem to continually be about three weeks behind the crackberry sentiment curve.
- CrackBerry Abuser
01-18-13, 03:27 PM #53
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- 01-18-13, 03:46 PM #55
What is crazy to me is that this $19.50 price target is based on a 30% success chance for BB10. His Probablilty for success went from 20% to 30%. I believe that BB10 has a much higher chance for success which means that the stock will go above 20$. I will buy more shares today...
- CrackBerry Genius
01-18-13, 04:49 PM #58
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RIM is about getting things done and many people feel their needs are dffferent and BB10 might not be the device for them, so they opt for an iPhone or Android, to single these BES users out will surely **** peopel off and also **** the companies off
- CrackBerry User
01-18-13, 04:59 PM #59
- 80 Posts
- yeah right
[QUOTE=neteng1000;7866241]Baby steps coach, baby steps. He has to slowly ease out of thar rat hole he put himself in.[/Q
Better than that, he's trying to ease himself out of the "Crow Line" that he and thousands of others are going to have to eat when BB-10 launches.
By the way, Peter, how DO you like your "Crow"??
- CrackBerry Genius
01-18-13, 05:09 PM #61
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BBM on BES not sure about this one im 50-50 there's factors involved.In the end the user will just go home with their BYOD handset we want more BB handsets out there no? So I then think we are hitting them with a google service approach.In the long run of this chess play.I can see this BBM BES feature filter down to the BYOD consumers wanting BBM there wont be any arguments of paying as they know the quality and its a BES paid service originally.I think this BBM BES service will be a trial in itself for the crossplatform attack.RIM will wait to see demands for it via petitions,emails etc and if the BBM BES goes well the filter down to cross platform will work. I see this play as when Rim filtered down BBM to consumer level when it did that it became more than a corporate phone it became that phone with BBM free text.Looking at this info the play is about to be implemented again??
Rim have improved the company even more now by not just relying on phone sales but on services also services make google money so its serios stuff.Are RIM gonna turn into a carrier??isp?? a place that pushes out mobile updates?? Soem serious avenues Rim can go.
Im clueless how do I buy shares and get into it?? I should of been buying in november ffs someone pm info please.RIm are playing some serious moves out here especially on the long run.
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- 01-18-13, 05:10 PM #62
Misek missed the entire area of electronic wallets using BES to facilitate secure money transfers...not a maybe, already confirmed, (in Canada anyway). I think this is the real value...or perhaps he's just waiting to upgrade further with that news?
Edit to add this: RIM Receives Approval from Visa for Mobile Payment Solution
RIM are positioning themselves as an "universal mobile devices" back-end provider (BES), where others have coined already with Androids'.
Having a strong differentiator like an unified, device based, secure and instant messaging+voice+video system over IP (and/or cellular) would be a massive plus.
Remember, while ASP (margin) will raise with BB10 devices, RIM have to maintain a decent revenue level which BES is undoubtedly the foundation.
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- CrackBerry Master
01-18-13, 06:15 PM #65
- 1,268 Posts
If this rumor is true, then it is sheer brilliance. BES on android/iOS and the enablement of BBM. RIM is repositioning itself as the gold standard in the mobile environment. But it doesn't stop there folks. Think about the 4G playbook and other tablets that we laugh at for being too expensive. All of a sudden, it could be transformed into a secure cross platform communication platform. Next, apply it to those QNX enabled cars. Apple and Android have been caught completely flatfooted.
- 01-18-13, 06:22 PM #66
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- 01-18-13, 06:40 PM #72
Wish I could find a link for Misek’s interview on BNN here in Canada today…in short (punny eh) he stated Samsung will try and licence BB10 because Android is a dead platform for them due to cheap China knockoff’s coming out. Misek stated they cannot innovate enough or compete with these units…
- CrackBerry Genius
01-18-13, 06:47 PM #74Wish I could find a link for Misek’s interview on BNN here in Canada today
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Research in Motion's (RIM-T 15.71 1.03 7.02%) shares are rising after Jefferies & Co. analyst Peter Misek upgraded the company to "buy" from "hold" and hiked its price target ahead of the much anticipated BlackBerry 10 launch on January 30.
Misek raised RIM's price target by more than $6 to $19.50.
He says the upgrade reflects expectations RIM will enable BlackBerry's corporate email on iPhones and Android devices, which currently dominate the smartphone market.
RIM could "create a successful software business on top of Android/iOS," Misek writes in a research note.
The analyst also notes RIM could see strong earnings in May and August due to the BB10's $600-price tag and volume commitments from mobile phone carriers for the first two quarters after the launch.
Misek says RIM could have a strong uptake of the new device in developing markets where he estimates 20 to 30 million of its existing user base can afford the BB10.
And he says although the company has lost momentum and market share in other markets, "the core installed base has been starved for a legitimate upgrade opportunity."
Misek says RIM may not have lost as many subscriber as some have feared. Although the company announced in December it would no longer charge subscriber fees with the BB10, Misek says "RIM's subscriber base is skewed toward emerging markets with extended replacement rates which should push out the impact of RIM's business model shift."
RIM has also increased the number of BB10s it's manufacturing to the 1 to 2-million range per month from the 500,000 it made in December, according to Misek.
RIM's share price also got a bump on Wednesday when the company announced credit card company VISA approved its mobile-payment solution.
The company's shares have doubled from their low point of $6.10 in September to a close of $14.68 Thursday.
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