RIMs head of software speaks to the state of things

[Dapper37]

Originally Posted by Economist101

It's a thread so nice he posted it twice.

Sorry if this post is not perfect enough for you. I know you demand perfection with every CB poster.
Truth is I posted it wile leaveing a village in northern Laos, on a dirt road in the back of a pick up truck, with my Bold 9650. At the same time my friends ip4s was a ibrick!

[world traveler and former ceo]

great post! thank!!! can;t wait for Playbook 2.0!!

[JAGWIRE]

This means a lot for PB and RIM as a company. This is definatly the turn around that they were hoping for / needed. The big thing is when PBOS 2.0 hits public and the media plays around with it and gets the thought 'well if this is any show of what BB10 is going to be...'.

and congrats OP on 1K...i just hit 500 and was excited about that i cant imagine how 1K must feel

[CrackedBarry]

Originally Posted by JAGWIRE

The big thing is when PBOS 2.0 hits public and the media plays around with it and gets the thought 'well if this is any show of what BB10 is going to be...'.

The thing is, that itll be really hard for RIM to get the media to play with it, let alone report on PB2.0. Heck it would be an uphill battle to get press coverage even without the ipad3 coming in March, as well as all the quadcore Android tablet being demonstrated at World Mobile Congress later this month, stealing the spotlight.

On top of that, you have some carriers already EOLing the Playbook, without launching some new hardware I have a really hard time seeing RIM getting any coverage. The PB, whether deserved or not, is widely seen as not just a failure, but also as last years failure, outdated hardware and all.

And I gotta say, its very worrying if he really sees the ability to update while watching a movie, as an interesting or important feature. It's that kind of disconnect with reality and what the market wants, that has led to the trouble that RIM is in. With an iPad you update it once or twice a year. All the Android tablets I've seen get updates more frequent than that, but you can keep working as it updates, besides the ten or so minutes it takes to reboot and do file system stuff. Nobody working on a tablet really cares about that kind of stuff, just like the backup issues he mentioned. It's been a few years since I had a BB, so I don't know if backups are still as cumbersome and timeconsuming as they used to be. But on an iPad all that stuff takes place automatically, in the background and get uploaded to the cloud. Thats where the market and consumers are right now, and it would be nice if RIM tried to move ahead where the market is, instead of trying to catch up.

Some of the stuff demonstrated is moving in the right direction, but I just found this disconnect worrying. And not a word about something they SHOULD be addressing: Namely the fact that all the old BB apps need to be rewritten for the new operating system. What kind of tools and help is RIM providing for developers? If they're not on top of this, they risk that many of them will abandon the platform...

[Dapper37]

^Doomsday, its still Doomsday! Like one of my favorite posters said. You remind me of D I C K Chaney!
Reports have shown that PlayBook Apps and development are trending upwords and faster than even the believers thought.
Now with PB2.0 here and the pathway to BB10 in hand. There is a clear story line emerging, that will make it easy for RIM to get its word out. the difference between platforms is going to be a selling point for RIM. Do the customers want ios or a system made to be a clone of ios, or would they like an identity online, that can be given to them by only RIM.
People like the comeback story as much as the fall.

[m0n0t0k]

Originally Posted by CrackedBarry

The thing is, that itll be really hard for RIM to get the media to play with it, let alone report on PB2.0. Heck it would be an uphill battle to get press coverage even without the ipad3 coming in March, as well as all the quadcore Android tablet being demonstrated at World Mobile Congress later this month, stealing the spotlight.

On top of that, you have some carriers already EOLing the Playbook, without launching some new hardware I have a really hard time seeing RIM getting any coverage. The PB, whether deserved or not, is widely seen as not just a failure, but also as last years failure, outdated hardware and all.

And I gotta say, its very worrying if he really sees the ability to update while watching a movie, as an interesting or important feature. It's that kind of disconnect with reality and what the market wants, that has led to the trouble that RIM is in. With an iPad you update it once or twice a year. All the Android tablets I've seen get updates more frequent than that, but you can keep working as it updates, besides the ten or so minutes it takes to reboot and do file system stuff. Nobody working on a tablet really cares about that kind of stuff, just like the backup issues he mentioned. It's been a few years since I had a BB, so I don't know if backups are still as cumbersome and timeconsuming as they used to be. But on an iPad all that stuff takes place automatically, in the background and get uploaded to the cloud. Thats where the market and consumers are right now, and it would be nice if RIM tried to move ahead where the market is, instead of trying to catch up.

Some of the stuff demonstrated is moving in the right direction, but I just found this disconnect worrying. And not a word about something they SHOULD be addressing: Namely the fact that all the old BB apps need to be rewritten for the new operating system. What kind of tools and help is RIM providing for developers? If they're not on top of this, they risk that many of them will abandon the platform...

They are releasing new hardware and as it has HSPA+ then hopefully the carriers will push it as they can make money out of it with contracts etc

[awwa1203a]

Enterprise security remains a cornerstone of the device.

[Rootbrian]

Twice for a bowl full of rice with Blackberries and a playbook to sport the filming of the consumption of the rice from that bowl.

Good thread.

[Blackberry_boffin]

Originally Posted by CrackedBarry

The thing is, that itll be really hard for RIM to get the media to play with it, let alone report on PB2.0. Heck it would be an uphill battle to get press coverage even without the ipad3 coming in March, as well as all the quadcore Android tablet being demonstrated at World Mobile Congress later this month, stealing the spotlight.

On top of that, you have some carriers already EOLing the Playbook, without launching some new hardware I have a really hard time seeing RIM getting any coverage. The PB, whether deserved or not, is widely seen as not just a failure, but also as last years failure, outdated hardware and all.

And I gotta say, its very worrying if he really sees the ability to update while watching a movie, as an interesting or important feature. It's that kind of disconnect with reality and what the market wants, that has led to the trouble that RIM is in. With an iPad you update it once or twice a year. All the Android tablets I've seen get updates more frequent than that, but you can keep working as it updates, besides the ten or so minutes it takes to reboot and do file system stuff. Nobody working on a tablet really cares about that kind of stuff, just like the backup issues he mentioned. It's been a few years since I had a BB, so I don't know if backups are still as cumbersome and timeconsuming as they used to be. But on an iPad all that stuff takes place automatically, in the background and get uploaded to the cloud. Thats where the market and consumers are right now, and it would be nice if RIM tried to move ahead where the market is, instead of trying to catch up.

Some of the stuff demonstrated is moving in the right direction, but I just found this disconnect worrying. And not a word about something they SHOULD be addressing: Namely the fact that all the old BB apps need to be rewritten for the new operating system. What kind of tools and help is RIM providing for developers? If they're not on top of this, they risk that many of them will abandon the platform...

The original article listed a lot of things and you still want to dwell all day on this alone? PB 2.0 is a major shift in many ways. THAT is just one of them.