- 05-26-2012, 07:57 AM
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RIM restructuring... More layoffs coming
I hope all my RIM friends make it through this round...
RIM prepares for radical measures with global restructuring - The Globe and Mail - 05-26-2012, 08:00 AM #2
I hope their CVs are up to date...
It's a sad time for a once great company (spare me the BB 10 stories).. - 05-26-2012, 08:01 AM #3
I hope their CVs are up to date...
It's a sad time for a once great company (spare me the BB 10 stories).. - 05-26-2012, 08:01 AM #4oops...
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- 05-26-2012, 08:31 AM #5
This really sux. I know about restructuring but still this sux.
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Motorhead - 05-26-2012, 09:00 AM #6
I guess Heinz is going to rock out with the package-out.
- 05-26-2012, 09:05 AM #7
Who died and left you in charge?
Constant negativity? I have been a faithful supporter of RIM and their products since before you knew what a BlackBerry was.
A fool can see that RIM is in big, big trouble right now. Just because you are blind to it (or hoping against hope for the almighty BB 10 to save everything - I believe Palm called that WebOS) then don't blame that on anyone else - especially me.Thanked by 4:Fuzzballz (05-29-2012), Air Force One (05-26-2012), ynomrah (05-26-2012)
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- 05-26-2012, 09:17 AM #9
Lay offs don't always mean trouble for a company. RIM is restructuring afterall, of course people are going to get laid off. It makes room for new hires and fresh talent; something RIM needs.
RIM isn't the powerhouse of today but, there is nothing stopping them from being the powerhouse of tomorrow. Thorsten Heins is the man to watch for how the company is doing. Someone that honest and straight forward let's me know that if we do indeed Stay Calm and Be Bold that we can Rock'n Roll This! Alec Saunders is another great man to look at to see the companies internal health. I was once worried about the future of RIM but, Heins and his newly assembled team are going to be just fine. - 05-26-2012, 09:31 AM #11
This really sux. I know about restructuring but still this sux.
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Motorhead - 05-26-2012, 09:33 AM #12
I think you're the fool. I'm sure derussett knows BB more than you do, but that's besides the point. You seem to have no idea what is really going on at RIM. You needed to have followed them very closely for a while to understand them. I'm not saying they are going to be successful, nothing is guaranteed in life. But, you have to be a fool to underestimate their future and call BB10 dead on arrival.
Trust me, Google, Microsoft, and Apple, the most valuable corporation in the world, are probably not counting RIM out right now, or underestimating them for the matter. That would be highly unprofessional and foolish, kind of like when RIM underestimated the first iphone.
Get my drift? - 05-26-2012, 09:40 AM #13
Obviously RIM grew too fast in their prime, the growth was improperly managed, and what resulted from that growth is not getting the company to where they need to be. I don't like to see anyone get layed off, but with RIM transitioning away from BBOS to BB10, RIM's new way of going with partners than do everything in house, and with Thor wanting to implement his vision for the company more layoffs were likely necessary. The last big round was before Thor, this one will be his with his people making the hard decisions. You just have to hope that BB10 gets RIM back on the right track, and that they can start to grow the company again, this time smarter.
- 05-26-2012, 09:55 AM #14
It's a sign of BBOS 7 / JAVA app development is winding down or coming to an end. With Alan Brener gone, less new releases for BlackBerry Travel, Traffic, Social Feed and Mobile Conference.
These are all being built from the ground up for BBOS 10 with richer features and available on PB and the new phones. It's all positive and part of Heins' laser focus.
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- 05-26-2012, 10:17 AM #17
And what have you seen where BB10s hardware isn't keeping up? Surely isn't the Dev Alpha, and it surely isn't the production devices since they will be better than the Alpha and specs aren't even confirmed. Palm didn't have the cash (or cash flow) that RIM does or the following that RIM has. Take your garbage Windows Phone and leave if you are happy. You are one of the VERY FEW that actually have a Windows Phone, so I guess that's cool?
- 05-26-2012, 10:27 AM #18
Obviously this is not good news if you're a RIM employee that is at risk of being let go. I, too, hope for the best for them!
As for RIM, it's not necessarily bad news. As a lot have said, restructuring is good because it allows RIM to function in a sort-of "economy mode" where they burn as little as possible while maximizing functions. New talent will always be welcomed. I do wonder, though, if many that are being let go are part of the current BlackBerry OS team and RIM is starrting to cut that side of operations down a bit. - 05-26-2012, 10:31 AM #19
I keep forgetting that dissent isn't tolerated on this board.
Well, enjoy. Have a nice weekend everyone. - 05-26-2012, 10:46 AM #20
You're wrong. Dissent is fine. It's when they come here and tell us "BB is dead. ______ is better than BB. BBs are so outdated" that it becomes a perfectly reasonable problem. You're still welcome to contribute, but please, spare us the "WP is so much better than BB". You are just trying to justify your device switch.
Thanks and you as well. - 05-26-2012, 11:05 AM #22
I am not Canadian either.
However, I do have a few observations and comments regarding your post.
You mentioned that you are now using a Nokia device. I am also using one.
You compare RIM and Palm. While it is yet to be determined what will happen to RIM, Nokia is actually closer to the situation Palm was in than RIM currently. Nokia's financials are much worse than RIM's.
Yes, there are some things that Windows Phone offers that are not available on BlackBerry at this time. However, who knows what BB10 might offer (and what WP8 might offer either).
There is no need to be so negative about the future of RIM just yet, especially since one does not know the future of Nokia either.--Laura Knotek (formerly known as lak611)
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- 05-26-2012, 11:18 AM #23
- 05-26-2012, 11:34 AM #24
Here's my two cents worth in this, I personally left Rim for the IPhone. Why you ask? Apps, plain and simple. I could no longer BBM because I went from 55 to 2 contacts, people moved on for social apps on other platforms. My choice of smartphone would be a Blackberry Bold with BB10. Loved my 9650, BUT, and here's the stinger! BB10 and Rim will go the way of the DoDo and Palm IF the major social apps the other platforms have are not there at launch. Plain and Simple! If they do it right, I will be sporting a new Bold with BB10, If not, Hello Iphone 5
- 05-26-2012, 11:43 AM #25

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