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Old 02-12-2012, 12:21 AM
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Lately, Research In Motion has seemed determined to push out more of the BlackBerry PlayBooks it has lying around, even if it means literally giving them away. There are still a few days left on a special deal announced by RIM's developer relations head Alec Saunders via Twitter--the company is giving away a free 16GB PlayBook to every developer who converts their Android app to be compatible with and available for the PlayBook.
The Android app needs to be ported and submitted to BlackBerry App World prior to the February 13 deadline to get the free tablet.
RIM's trade-a-tablet-for-an-app scheme adds to an air of desperation that's surrounded the BlackBerry brand lately. Not only has the price of the PlayBook been slashed to a fraction of the original asking figure (a 16GB slate is now $199), but there was also the odd bit of boasting recently when RIM defiantly insisted its developers were more profitable than Android's. It seems plenty of developers have no problem gladly accepting free loot from a sinking ship. RIM says its offer was met with an "outpouring of interest" from Android devs. I have to wonder if RIM has spent much time on the Android Market lately--does all this porting of new apps mean there will soon be a whole new generation of spammy BlackBerry apps that do little more than port an RSS feed and some ads onto the PlayBook?
You might want to start bailing faster, RIM, you seem to be taking on more water. But thanks for the free tablets.
Yawn. This guy is as trendy as his ipad.

What is up with CNET lately, can't believe the crap articles coming from them as of late.

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Outside of the OP's intent to complain about a rant. I can't help but pose the question the article alludes to but never really addresses.

How many Android devs will package the current iteration of their Android app for the Playbook, just to get the free piece of hardware.. then totally abandon any future updates/repackaging in the future?
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It's not just Cnet, its every site. Although Cnet does have positive articles as well, the internet does take turns with this subject. As many commentors suggested from that article though, it is true that no matter what they do gets bashed. First they bash because we apparently have no apps and that we should be proactive in getting apps into the platform. Now they bash bcz RIM offers incentives to devs to port their apps, and suggests you should drop RIM asap. Its very hypocritical and I think everyone realizes this, although will never admit it bcz they they still wanna wake up in the morning knowing they're not the only ones kissing their ipads smack in the lips upon sunrise. Haha.
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It's not just Cnet, its every site. Although Cnet does have positive articles as well, the internet does take turns with this subject. As many commentors suggested from that article though, it is true that no matter what they do gets bashed. First they bash because we apparently have no apps and that we should be proactive in getting apps into the platform. Now they bash bcz RIM offers incentives to devs to port their apps, and suggests you should drop RIM asap. Its very hypocritical and I think everyone realizes this, although will never admit it bcz they they still wanna wake up in the morning knowing they're not the only ones kissing their ipads smack in the lips upon sunrise. Haha.
I think you might want to ease up on the conspiracy theories. Just because you don't like to coverage in the news does not mean that everyone is "bashing" RIM. The fact is RIM has screwed up quite a few times in the past few years. Bad press has a tendency to generate more - it is a fact of life. BTW, the media was hardly very complimentary about Google giving away Chromebooks, nor were they complimentary about the actual Chromebooks. The same goes for both GoogleTV and Apple TV, Google's privacy policy, Google Buzz, Microsoft's Kin, iPhone reception issues, Apple's relationship with Foxconn, etc., etc., etc....
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How bias is that guy ? When he uses the word "scheme" i feel like puking. Next thing you know Jim Jones will come back to life, work at CNET and start pushing Kool-aid on us all.
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It's not just Cnet, its every site. Although Cnet does have positive articles as well, the internet does take turns with this subject. As many commentors suggested from that article though, it is true that no matter what they do gets bashed. First they bash because we apparently have no apps and that we should be proactive in getting apps into the platform. Now they bash bcz RIM offers incentives to devs to port their apps, and suggests you should drop RIM asap. Its very hypocritical and I think everyone realizes this, although will never admit it bcz they they still wanna wake up in the morning knowing they're not the only ones kissing their ipads smack in the lips upon sunrise. Haha.
Coverage mirrors results. When RIM's results improve, so will their coverage. It's really not that complicated.
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RIM bashing started hot and heavy last year. Much as I love all 9 of my BlackBerries. I don't feel the need to defend RIM as much as I want RIM do step up and succeed. It's going to continue until RIM starts posting numbers here in the US that the critics think are relevant compared to other devices. At the end of the day, RIM has to put out products to gain commercial customers without losing on the business side over here. Posting big numbers in Asia doesn't mean crap to consumers in the US.
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Outside of the OP's intent to complain about a rant. I can't help but pose the question the article alludes to but never really addresses.

How many Android devs will package the current iteration of their Android app for the Playbook, just to get the free piece of hardware.. then totally abandon any future updates/repackaging in the future?

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Coverage mirrors results. When RIM's results improve, so will their coverage. It's really not that complicated.
Not until you realise that the truth is forfited for profits. No nothing wrong with that. If RIM has to continue in life continusly being compaired to the most succesful computer company in the world. Theres a big chance its going to take awile to change things.
People like you that trumpet apple all day long and say RIM is dead, are simply foolish! yet if your paid to do it, why not.
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Coverage mirrors results. When RIM's results improve, so will their coverage. It's really not that complicated.
That is crap.

He took something good and spun it as bad.
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Outside of the OP's intent to complain about a rant. I can't help but pose the question the article alludes to but never really addresses.

How many Android devs will package the current iteration of their Android app for the Playbook, just to get the free piece of hardware.. then totally abandon any future updates/repackaging in the future?
I'm working with a dev right now to port an android app to pb. I asked him if he was going to port this app I like. He had applied to RIM but hadn't got his pb yet. He asked me to test his port on mine.

Not a lot of devs make big money on apps. They do it for fun, or a bit of extra cash, or for some exposure. Buying all the right platforms to develop on can eat up what small profit there is. For many devs this is an insurmountable hurdle when it comes to developing for a new platform. Giving free pb's to devs is a canny move.

There may be some danger of some half-baked apps, I agree. Then again if you look at the half million plus apps in the App store there is a lot of fluff and chaff. Same for android market. You also see a lot of completely irrelevant apps like the timetable of the Singapore transit system. Irrelevant unless you're in Singapore where it might be priceless. At the core you need just a few high quality apps. And then you need a ton of these little apps catering to particular special needs.

To avoid unsupported apps the trick is to write to the devs of the apps you like with your comments, suggestions, requests, and bugs. Many of them live for feedback on the work they have put out there. They are usually very responsive if they feel someone is actually using and liking the app.

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I think you might want to ease up on the conspiracy theories. Just because you don't like to coverage in the news does not mean that everyone is "bashing" RIM. The fact is RIM has screwed up quite a few times in the past few years. Bad press has a tendency to generate more - it is a fact of life. BTW, the media was hardly very complimentary about Google giving away Chromebooks, nor were they complimentary about the actual Chromebooks. The same goes for both GoogleTV and Apple TV, Google's privacy policy, Google Buzz, Microsoft's Kin, iPhone reception issues, Apple's relationship with Foxconn, etc., etc., etc....
Its not a conspiracy theory..
cmon dude are you really that blind? Read what I posted. Its a perfect example of what's been going on over and over. RIM not implementing something? Bashes. RIM then implements it.. BASHED! I'm getting really annoyed of posts like yours always trying to do.. Well.. I'm not sure.. What exactly you tell me?

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Coverage mirrors results. When RIM's results improve, so will their coverage. It's really not that complicated.
Oh god where to start with you.. I try to ignore your posts pretty much anywhere.. But now that you are directing one at me, why don't you stop being so gloomy all the time? You're like salmon always going upstream. Anything that ANYONE posts, you've got something negative to say about. God its annoying.
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People like you that trumpet apple all day long and say RIM is dead, are simply foolish! yet if your paid to do it, why not.
I don't trumpet Apple all day. Their results are good because of good decisions, and its silly to suggest otherwise. The same applies for RIM, in that their position right now is because of decisions the company itself has made.

However, not once have I ever claimed RIM is "dead," either using that term or any other language. In fact, here's a gift for you. If you can find a post where I said RIM was "dead" or going away, I'll leave CrackBerry. In other words, if you can PROVE I'm one of those people, you can be make it so no one ever has to read my posts again.

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Oh god where to start with you.. I try to ignore your posts pretty much anywhere.. But now that you are directing one at me, why don't you stop being so gloomy all the time? You're like salmon always going upstream. Anything that ANYONE posts, you've got something negative to say about. God its annoying.
On the contrary, I don't see what's gloomy about saying RIM's coverage will improve when its results do. It's certainly a more positive outlook than to say "the media just bashes RIM for no reason and they'll continue to do so no matter what."
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I don't trumpet Apple all day. Their results are good because of good decisions, and its silly to suggest otherwise. The same applies for RIM, in that their position right now is because of decisions the company itself has made.

However, not once have I ever claimed RIM is "dead," either using that term or any other language. In fact, here's a gift for you. If you can find a post where I said RIM was "dead" or going away, I'll leave CrackBerry. In other words, if you can PROVE I'm one of those people, you can be make it so no one ever has to read my posts again.



On the contrary, I don't see what's gloomy about saying RIM's coverage will improve when its results do. It's certainly a more positive outlook than to say "the media just bashes RIM for no reason and they'll continue to do so no matter what."
Who is paying you to say this? A WebOS Consortium?

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