- 06-12-12, 06:51 PM #126
The funny thing is that many people have been saying 'iOS apps suck' and will now be saying 'how do i get that app to work on my PB?' .
This is GREAT because it shows what the playbook can do, however we have to be careful because filling the app ecosystem with garbage is NOT a good thing. I know a lot of people want skype and netflix, but we should be pressuring the companies to release native apps and NOT finding work arounds.
This developer did a great job, but maybe instead of finding illegal ways to run apps they could offer their time to some of these companies to develop NATIVE and LEGAL apps... and get paid to do so. This way of doing things will help the users that are 'tech savy'... but the normal users wont be able to use it, and that is something that needs to be worked on by RIM. Everyone buys the iPad bc 'theres an app for that' just by searching in the app store and tapping the screen a couple of times. No work arounds or anything. I would choose my PB over an iPad any day... but im not an average user who is bought over through flash and shiny things.
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06-12-12, 07:00 PM #127
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- 06-12-12, 07:02 PM #128
- 06-12-12, 07:15 PM #130
So one guy working alone has succeeded in making some pretty sophisticated iOS apps work while a team of RIM developers has taken a year and a half and we get some percentage of mostly crappy Android Apps mostly working most of the time.
This is why I am afraid that RIM is doomed to fail. If one guy can do this (presumably while earning a living doing something else), what on Earth has RIM and all of its resources been up to (other than squandering those resources)? This is a legitimate question. Why is the Android Player not perfect and why does it not run all Android Apps?
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06-12-12, 07:15 PM #131
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The underlying OS that this emulator sits on top of has nothing to do with the statement above. In other words, the statement "So first it was unlikely it could be done, and now any OS can do it" actually makes no sense whatsoever.
- 06-12-12, 07:21 PM #132
While I see where you are coming from here.
there are a few differences, RIM allows Apps to touch far more than these iOS apps touch, I'm sure if you said no internet, access and limited things more more apps would work
ALSO Android itself can't even ensure all apps run on all os's/devices so expecting RIM to pull that off is pretty far fetched, what Apple does right is has very strict guidelines and creating an iOS emulator should be more similar to a console emulator than an Android one would be.
Also RIM as a company has for more legalities to worry about than an independent guy does.
- 06-12-12, 07:24 PM #133
- 06-12-12, 07:29 PM #135
and then compare developing Android apps and iOS apps
Then you'll understand far more.
Money and teams of developers does NOT mean better quality, too many cooks spoil the broth as they say.
Also we don't know the dedication put into Android Apps, are the people doing it dedicated? or is it a side project for people, like many other experimental projects are.
- 06-12-12, 07:29 PM #136
Very Impressive. Cheers to cat. Since i cannot participate in the arguments of coding ... And im lost for the most part when people mention objective c class or whatever... Answer some of the basic questions.
1. Why QNX...Why the playbook.
2. Was this to put yourself to the test, or you assumed it was always probably given the fact that the playbook can run Android.
3. You said some of the things weren't that hard to achieve, do you believe RIM dev team was aware of this potential in the platform.
4. Do you plan on releasing this at some point to the dev community (Einstein didnt tell the world about gravity then give us the middle finger)
So many other questions but ill contain my excitement and stay tuned.
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- 06-12-12, 07:44 PM #139
What reason has RIM given about why it has chosen not to support those parts of Android that allow for good apps?
Like most around here I am rooting for RIM to succeed. I just have to question what is going on over there under these circumstances and wonder if RIM is up to the job.
- 06-12-12, 07:50 PM #141
The Android fragmentation is up to about 4,000 different devices... Not even an Android device can run run all Android apps... So yea, RIM has a hard time with Android apps...
BusinessCat did an awesome job with this but it obviously still needs polishing i.eTest #2: Just a few hours ago we sent the developer the iPhone app for our sibling site iMore. This is only an iPhone app and not available on any other platform. As you can see in the video above, he got the nuts of it up and running in less than hour. It's not pulling in images from the web, but the app loads and it is working. Huge.
Seeing is believing, and we have seen. There is more work yet to be done still. Right now it works best with API's under v4, and supports builds for universal binary or armv6. Right now it works best with apps like games, but apps that need UIWebView and CoreData, not so much yet.
Hope to use it soon
- 06-12-12, 08:07 PM #142
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06-12-12, 08:26 PM #145
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(2) Of course it's an emulator running in both instances. For the x86, there's an additional ARM translation layer, because *surprise* mobile devices use ARM chipsets, while Windows is running on x86, but otherwise it's the exact same iOS emulator. *Sigh*...
- 06-12-12, 08:49 PM #148
What I saw from the video is just impressive. I'm wondering if this is real and if it's real, will Apple find out about it and somehow try to get it removed or worse try and take legal action to protect itself and iOS developers.