[ardpieter]

release it on thepiratebay there will be nothing illegal if you do so.
if you dont you will not be believed or you have to have a really good reason.
please do s0
you can do i t right so pleaase man
on TPB there will be no ios geverment or you are afraid for if some nuggets
release it on stuff likr osbb ect
it is THEIR fault and you are not responeble or mabey mail it to ardpieter@hotmail.com
i will not bring it in public

[TheScionicMan]

Yes, he's done so much work on this that he should just give it away. Quickly!!

[ardpieter]

Yes, he's done so much work on this that he should just give it away. Quickly!!

if you agree please "like" my prev message

[TheScionicMan]

Sorry, I was being sarcastic...

[mikeo007]

release it on thepiratebay there will be nothing illegal if you do so.
if you dont you will not be believed or you have to have a really good reason.
please do s0
you can do i t right so pleaase man
on TPB there will be no ios geverment or you are afraid for if some nuggets
release it on stuff likr osbb ect
it is THEIR fault and you are not responeble or mabey mail it to ardpieter@hotmail.com
i will not bring it in public

Putting your email address on a public forum is an excellent idea.

[Superfly_FR]

Putting your email address on a public forum is an excellent idea.

shhhh ... he's a hacker activist lol

[ardpieter]

Putting your email address on a public forum is an excellent idea.

it is my 2nd e-mail bro

[doobiest]

HTML5 was promoted by Apple two years ago by Steve Jobs in his Thoughts on Flash statement. RIM thought Flash was important and now they realized it's not. Even Adobe abandoned Mobile Flash for HTML5.

I don't why people complain about decent flash support on BB's os. You/They act like it's a "one or the other" thing. Like they spent time adding flash so now their HTML5 sucks. Where the fact is Playbook OS 2.0 has the highest HTML5 score out of any mobile devices, and the 2nd highest score out of any browser for any device platform/operating system for that matter.

If HTML 5 was Steve's vision why wasn't his the best in class? Granted now I believe with iOS6 it's supposed to have faster HTML5 rendering but still not as high of a HTML5 compatibility score.

RIM offered, at the time, the best in class for Flash and HTML5 support and there's no reason they won't continue to keep up with edge of technologies now that they're on it. Even bb7 devices have very good HTML5 compatibility scores and that's their legacy OS.

They partnered with Adobe to work on their flash player. Flash has always sucked in the sense of being a resource hog. HTML5 offered the nextgen alternative in features without sucking the resources. I doubt RIM ever thought that they were going to ride the Flash wave for years to come. But it's really nice to have since many many sites will be slow to adapt outside of the top 10%. And even some of them are being slow to adapt.

I just don't see any valid point where the added feature of flash is a con.

In closing, if I really don't want flash because maybe I'm using a site riddled with flash banners, or maybe I just hate flash because it slept with my girlfriend, I can opt to turn flash off. iOS users can't opt to turn flash on. It's nice to have the freedom of choice.. options.

[doobiest]

I'd love to have a 67 Chevy Nova with a Porsche engine in it...

I'd also love to have my 64GB Playbook run BB, Android and iOS apps...

I second this in the sense that I loooove linux, but I want to be able to run some windows apps on it well. If there's a killer app on windows, that doesn't mean windows is better or I'm dumb or I should go buy a windows 7 pc. It means that the developers of that app chose that community for specific reasons. But I unfortunately wasn't bread in that community. It doesn't make my desire to use their software any less.

Windows has dominated the gaming market for two decades, but the developers are starting to push their wares on all three PC platforms. It's not a which is better thing, it's about what motivates the devs, what's their incentives... Linux has a small desktop user base compared to windows and osx, but Steam sees the value in porting their platform to linux.

I think it's a chicken and egg thing, "why would we write our games for linux, there's no user base" versus "theres no user base because none of us has manned up and wrote our games for linux yet"


/rant

[biglo30]

Wow over a month now and everything has gone quiet. Hope the dev hasn't been bought out by apple or something. If he did cant blame him for it.

[sosumi11]

In closing, if I really don't want flash because maybe I'm using a site riddled with flash banners, or maybe I just hate flash because it slept with my girlfriend, I can opt to turn flash off. iOS users can't opt to turn flash on. It's nice to have the freedom of choice.. options.

Using this logic, do you still want the choice of a 5-1/4" floppy drive? How about the option of a horse?

Technology has passed up the need for moused based Flash. The world has too many choices for things that really matter. It is nice to have a device that you don't need to make choices on how to use it.

How many buttons on your Universal Remote do you actually use?

[TheScionicMan]

Using this logic, do you still want the choice of a 5-1/4" floppy drive? How about the option of a horse?

Technology has passed up the need for moused based Flash. The world has too many choices for things that really matter. It is nice to have a device that you don't need to make choices on how to use it.

How many buttons on your Universal Remote do you actually use?

A horse or a floppy disc don't really provide much that is useful these days, unlike Flash.

It's always the disciples of Jobs that are so worried about denouncing Flash and proclaiming its irrelevance. It works quite well for the rest of the computing world.

You may like having someone else make your choices, but don't make that choice for us...

[sosumi11]

A horse or a floppy disc don't really provide much that is useful these days, unlike Flash.

It's always the disciples of Jobs that are so worried about denouncing Flash and proclaiming its irrelevance. It works quite well for the rest of the computing world.

You may like having someone else make your choices, but don't make that choice for us...

It appears that Adobe made a choice for you, too.

Flash to Focus on PC Browsing and Mobile Apps; Adobe to More Aggressively Contribute to HTML5

Flash was needed ten years ago. Now it is a proprietary tech that outlived its usefulness,

[TheScionicMan]

There's a difference between dying and dead. For example, SJ was dying when he made his proclamation, now he's dead. Although he was dying, he was still useful... And Flash is still useful to many of us despite the box that SJ has painted you into that requires you to walk in lockstep with them, proclaiming its early demise.

If you ever get in an accident or a disease, i hope your doctor appreciates the difference.

[sosumi11]

There's a difference between dying and dead. For example, SJ was dying when he made his proclamation, now he's dead. Although he was dying, he was still useful... And Flash is still useful to many of us despite the box that SJ has painted you into that requires you to walk in lockstep with them, proclaiming its early demise.

If you ever get in an accident or a disease, i hope your doctor appreciates the difference.

Very morbid choice of words.

But, hey, if you want to support dying tech, go right ahead.
After all, change is inevitable. Progress is not.

[grahamf]

Tell that to Netflix. Remember when they spun off their dying dvd mailing business?

[TheScionicMan]

Very morbid choice of words.

But, hey, if you want to support dying tech, go right ahead.
After all, change is inevitable. Progress is not.

So by surfing the web and being able to see Flash content I might come across, I am "supporting dying tech" but you are promoting "progress" because you bought a device that doesn't support it. Gotcha...

[TheScionicMan]

It appears that Adobe made a choice for you, too.

Flash to Focus on PC Browsing and Mobile Apps; Adobe to More Aggressively Contribute to HTML5

Flash was needed ten years ago. Now it is a proprietary tech that outlived its usefulness,

Did you even read the link you posted? Seems to me like it is talking about the continuation of Flash. It's only the mobile version that is ending. Flash will still be used to make apps and then they are packaged in Adobe AIR for HTML5 usage on mobile. Doesn't sound like it's dead to me..

[sosumi11]

Did you even read the link you posted? Seems to me like it is talking about the continuation of Flash. It's only the mobile version that is ending. Flash will still be used to make apps and then they are packaged in Adobe AIR for HTML5 usage on mobile. Doesn't sound like it's dead to me..

Flash is still dead.

Ad agencies (the biggest supporter of Flash) are now creating all ads in HTML5 using Adobe tools for the largest saturation (i.e., desktop, laptop, mobile). Any advertiser that wants to write new material in Flash will be giving up exposure to the iOS user.

In case you haven't heard, iOS users are the ones that open their wallets.

Apple has allowed developers to build conversions for Flash in their apps, but Flash as a stand alone plug-in, which has been widely known as a virus magnet, will no longer be the first choice for developers.

So enjoy viewing your antiquated, Flash-powered banner ads and videos while they last.

[mikeo007]

Flash is still dead.

Ad agencies (the biggest supporter of Flash) are now creating all ads in HTML5 using Adobe tools for the largest saturation (i.e., desktop, laptop, mobile). Any advertiser that wants to write new material in Flash will be giving up exposure to the iOS user.

In case you haven't heard, iOS users are the ones that open their wallets.

Apple has allowed developers to build conversions for Flash in their apps, but Flash as a stand alone plug-in, which has been widely known as a virus magnet, will no longer be the first choice for developers.

So enjoy viewing your antiquated, Flash-powered banner ads and videos while they last.

lol wut? You sure about that?

[TheScionicMan]

Flash is still dead.

Ad agencies (the biggest supporter of Flash) are now creating all ads in HTML5 using Adobe tools for the largest saturation (i.e., desktop, laptop, mobile). Any advertiser that wants to write new material in Flash will be giving up exposure to the iOS user.

In case you haven't heard, iOS users are the ones that open their wallets.

Apple has allowed developers to build conversions for Flash in their apps, but Flash as a stand alone plug-in, which has been widely known as a virus magnet, will no longer be the first choice for developers.

So enjoy viewing your antiquated, Flash-powered banner ads and videos while they last.

I will, thanks. Enjoy opening your wallet for Apple...

[morlock_man]

So... Apple must be lightyears ahead of RIM if they're supporting html5 that strongly...

Right?

Right...?

Oh....

Nevermind then.

[andrew1953]

wasnt the big problem with Flash was the amount of memory it consumed when operating? Very greedy.

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[mikeo007]

wasnt the big problem with Flash was the amount of memory it consumed when operating? Very greedy.

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The problem was (and still is) the amount of resources it consumed, yes. That's why I laughed at the fellow that called it a virus magnet.

[grahamf]

Righ now giving up flash for html5 is a lot like giving up gasoline for electric cars. You problalby can, but it will still be around for a long time yet.