[Superfly_FR]

Ever used an Iphone without iTunes ? Enjoy.
Not One Microsoft Product on Kaspersky's Top 10 Vulnerabilities List

[gariac]

I hate itunes. It is so bloated now you would think Adobe was in charge.

I just don't understand why Apple can't make a phone that looks like a freakin' USB drive. The rest of the world can.

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[Foreverup]

I hate itunes. It is so bloated now you would think Adobe was in charge.

I just don't understand why Apple can't make a phone that looks like a freakin' USB drive. The rest of the world can.

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i don't think "can't" is the word your looking for try "won't"


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[dentynefire]

Superfly, is that the link you wanted to post? Its about Microsoft - a nice read anyway.

I agree that a locked down phone is basically a feature phone but at least there are no battery pulls with iPhone/Android. I think RIM is gonna kill it with the new phones personally. Might take a while because mobile contracts are usually 2-3 years but they have to start somewhere, right!

[Superfly_FR]

Superfly, is that the link you wanted to post? Its about Microsoft - a nice read anyway.

I agree that a locked down phone is basically a feature phone but at least there are no battery pulls with iPhone/Android. I think RIM is gonna kill it with the new phones personally. Might take a while because mobile contracts are usually 2-3 years but they have to start somewhere, right!

Yep, was the link. Shows iTunes as a critical threat. So I believe it will be at least very limited in action (not to say forbidden). New "2 devices" erra : iphones for emailing and calls and ... BB for apps and multimedia loool.

And occasionally, some advertisement for "our fair competitor of choice" doesn't hurt

[howarmat]

correct me if im wrong but i think itunes is no longer needed for iOS devices

[Tre Lawrence]

correct me if im wrong but i think itunes is no longer needed for iOS devices

That's what I thought. I would like clarification too.

[Wiki Cydia]

That's what I thought. I would like clarification too.

It's not needed for device usage, but management may be a different story.

[scalemaster34]

You look at that list and you seen quite a few very successful companies....

How many BlackBerry phones on US gov agencies aren't almost completely LOCKED DOWN? Most people I know with a gov issued phone, carries two phones - one is their work BB for email only, the other is usually an Android or maybe an iPhone for personal email, internet access, social media and probably fun stuff they don't want the boss to know about.

Fusion could change that IF employers wanted to allow employees to have fun, and if employees don't mind the boss being able to check on them. But I think the trend is going to stay the same. Gov Agencies are going to issue LOCKED DOWN smartphones and employes will also carry their own personal devices (where allowed) - the question is will RIM have the ecosystem that attracts consumers.

[notfanboy]

I use my iPad daily, but I haven't connected to a desktop or laptop in a whole year. Last year, something screwy happened with the USB ports on my computer and I found that I could no longer reliably connect the iPad to it. Turns out I don't need to anymore, even though I transfer PDFs and other media all the time. Don't even need it for OS upgrades.

[Superfly_FR]

correct me if im wrong but i think itunes is no longer needed for iOS devices

*ahum* looks like I need some serious refresh on iOs.
on the other hand, provided iCloud is not something that could be enabled in a safe environment ...
.... well, yes, I really need a serious refresh on how-to's !

[howarmat]

also no surprise to see all those flash vulnerabilities. Flash has been horrible with security and RIM has to keep upto date with fixes for that.

[Tre Lawrence]

*ahum* looks like I need some serious refresh on iOs.
on the other hand, provided iCloud is not something that could be enabled in a safe environment ...
.... well, yes, I really need a serious refresh on how-to's !

Wait... someone who admits that they could be wrong?

Sorry, Superfly... that attitude is becoming a lost art on the internets... kudos for real...

[Superfly_FR]

How many BlackBerry phones on US gov agencies aren't almost completely LOCKED DOWN?

This is why most of them *think* using ip or droids will change the game. I believe it's not ... at all.

Fusion could change that IF employers wanted to allow employees to have fun, and if employees don't mind the boss being able to check on them. But I think the trend is going to stay the same. Gov Agencies are going to issue LOCKED DOWN smartphones and employes will also carry their own personal devices (where allowed) - the question is will RIM have the ecosystem that attracts consumers.

Fusion is a real and efficient answer. And no, boss won't be able to check on them: private is private, business is work. The two environments are waterproof.
Gov Agencies can't forbid their users to carry a second device anyway (except several high security areas), so that the "have fun" permission is not required anyway

[Superfly_FR]

Wait... someone who admits that they could be wrong?

Asked René R. "à la rescousse" to clarify this

[Foreverup]

*ahum* looks like I need some serious refresh on iOs.
on the other hand, provided iCloud is not something that could be enabled in a safe environment ...
.... well, yes, I really need a serious refresh on how-to's !

99% sure technically you do not need itunes. Back ups can be done in the icloud and music and apps can be managed through app store. But any iphone connected to a computer needs itunes to back up and restore software. I have never used an iphone in a corporate environment so i don't know how a 3rd party management software or redirecting back ups to a company server instead of icloud works.

[qbnkelt]

You look at that list and you seen quite a few very successful companies....

How many BlackBerry phones on US gov agencies aren't almost completely LOCKED DOWN? Most people I know with a gov issued phone, carries two phones - one is their work BB for email only, the other is usually an Android or maybe an iPhone for personal email, internet access, social media and probably fun stuff they don't want the boss to know about.

Fusion could change that IF employers wanted to allow employees to have fun, and if employees don't mind the boss being able to check on them. But I think the trend is going to stay the same. Gov Agencies are going to issue LOCKED DOWN smartphones and employes will also carry their own personal devices (where allowed) - the question is will RIM have the ecosystem that attracts consumers.

I always carry two phones.

My government issued device is on BES so it is subject to monitoring. Additionally, when I'm in vacation, I leave it on mute in my bag. I carry it, but I only monitor traffic.

It is absolutely locked down.

My personal devices is where all the personal stuff happens.


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[scalemaster34]

This is why most of them *think* using ip or droids will change the game. I believe it's not ... at all.


Fusion is a real and efficient answer. And no, boss won't be able to check on them: private is private, business is work. The two environments are waterproof.
Gov Agencies can't forbid their users to carry a second device anyway (except several high security areas), so that the "have fun" permission is not required anyway

Not sure how that might work if it is a company issued device - if it is their equipment then private doesn't really apply, it will be interesting to see who really can control the device.
I think that most people with employer issued phones are going to continue to carry their own device. So just not sure that in the real world Fusion is going to make much of a difference for employer issued devices.

[dentynefire]

Not sure how that might work if it is a company issued device - if it is their equipment then private doesn't really apply, it will be interesting to see who really can control the device.
I think that most people with employer issued phones are going to continue to carry their own device. So just not sure that in the real world Fusion is going to make much of a difference for employer issued devices.

I thought it works like: Balance enables the separate partition and BES 10 configures the device. If no Balance partition then BES 10 would configure the device as is when registered.

To each their own with regards to which device but with BB10 devices RIM is on a much improved playing field.

[Superfly_FR]

Not sure how that might work if it is a company issued device - if it is their equipment then private doesn't really apply, it will be interesting to see who really can control the device.
I think that most people with employer issued phones are going to continue to carry their own device. So just not sure that in the real world Fusion is going to make much of a difference for employer issued devices.

I thought it works like: Balance enables the separate partition and BES 10 configures the device. If no Balance partition then BES 10 would configure the device as is when registered. To each their own with regards to which device but with BB10 devices RIM is on a much improved playing field.

Think of it as two virtual machines (this is not) with their own encryption keys. Companies will have no power on the personal data/apps environment. But, of course, they can stop the carrier subscription and/or wipe the work environment. The "waterproofing" is strong enough to prevent (device side) copy/paste/screen capture or email transfer (can't use anything but work address book to send a work mail) from one environment to the other.
That's huge. That's one of the major advantage of BES10+BB10, notably in secured environments.

[aragone79]

You look at that list and you seen quite a few very successful companies....

How many BlackBerry phones on US gov agencies aren't almost completely LOCKED DOWN? Most people I know with a gov issued phone, carries two phones - one is their work BB for email only, the other is usually an Android or maybe an iPhone for personal email, internet access, social media and probably fun stuff they don't want the boss to know about.

Fusion could change that IF employers wanted to allow employees to have fun, and if employees don't mind the boss being able to check on them. But I think the trend is going to stay the same. Gov Agencies are going to issue LOCKED DOWN smartphones and employes will also carry their own personal devices (where allowed) - the question is will RIM have the ecosystem that attracts consumers.

Prefer BES 10 and BB10, and we can use Blackberry Balance. So we just need one smartphone for our daily activity. Smart isn't it?

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