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KSDK NewsChannel 5 - DPS Director Thanks RIM for Rescheduling BlackBerry Updates
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"Several flooding rivers in the St. Louis and eastern Missouri are scheduled to be at their record peak at the same time of the scheduled outage. Many first responders and emergency management officials who are feverishly working to protect citizens from the record flooding rely on their "BlackBerry" devices for critical communications. Missouri Homeland Security officials requested RIM to postpone the scheduled outage late Friday afternoon."
- 03-22-2008, 11:14 PM #3
Very good job on RIM's part. This could have been very bad. And the the Home Land office._______________________________________________
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- 03-22-2008, 11:40 PM #4
Once again I am not impressed with Homeland Security.
Do they rely on their BBs that much? If there was a real crisis it is quit possible that they would not be about to communicate each other with their BBs.
During the Northeast Blackout of 2003 my cell phone did not work. Nor did a lot of my comms links at our office. I had to send e-mail out to out clients via a dial-up line.
On 911, here in the tri-state area, cell phone networks were jammed and in most cases unusable.
I would hope that Homeland Security has some sort of work arround for outages because when the **** hits the fan they might not be able to make a call over to RIM for a solution.
- 03-23-2008, 12:47 AM #7
Why am I subject to a delay with the outage of service I pay for because some people I don't know or care about might die?
Shouldn't the government have it's own independent services that aren't reliant on something that's being sold as a consumer product?
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- 03-23-2008, 02:38 AM #9
I was here saying that it didn't effect me at all...
Also RIM outage doesn't mean cell service outage. Doesn't the phone part still work? For emergencies, they email one another?
- 03-23-2008, 11:03 PM #15
While not a victim of a natural disaster, I'm confident those same people would not lose a blink of sleep over me if our roles were reversed.
I leave you with this quote:
"It's a cold world, put on your jacket..."
- 03-23-2008, 11:39 PM #16
And a quote to you sir from a fairly famous American, Benjamin Franklin:
"A man wrapped up in himself makes a very small bundle."
We should always be sensitive to the plight of others - lest they become our own.
- 03-24-2008, 12:16 AM #17
During the early stages, berries were used by some during Katrina to text for supplies. SAT phones were not in abundance. Also, prior to that, berries were used during the Shuttle Recovery in East Texas. Working with Emergency Responses before, during, and after the event, I've seen a lot of suffering 20 years in the environmental field that I would not wish on my worse enemy or his family. Two thing I've learned about forums: 1. Everyone has an opinion- whether good or bad. 2. No one thinks more about your opinion than "you" do.
- 03-24-2008, 11:12 PM #21
I, for one, am appalled by such a callous attitude. People are upset because RIM acted in a responsible way that might possibly have helped save lives. Not definitely, but possibly and for me, that possibility is enough and I applaud their action. Mother Teresa I'm not, but I can only see benefit in corporations acting as responsible citizens. What I can't figure is why in the world you care if you don't care. There was NO outage and that is upsetting?
I will never be able to understand many that share this planet with me.
- 03-24-2008, 11:53 PM #22
Agreed ! Our thoughts are with you Missouri and the the folks from the Gulf Coast.
We should all be concerned on a global scale of these events and how we as communites are prepared to handle disasters. Communications is a major factor in emergency coordination. Backup plans must be in place for the what if ??
The most important 2nd step is recovery. I've spent some time in Biloxi, MS and you would not believe the amount of destruction still there. Its so shocking to see the devistation so far inland this long after the storm. I feel, we as a country have let these people down.
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- CrackBerry Newbie
03-25-2008, 11:50 AM #23
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AT&T and Tmobile, being that they are GSM/GPRS, have a dedicated data channel, so in times of emergency when the cell phone towers are bogged down, their PIN's and emails still go through very quickly, allowing them to respond effectively to emergencies. Even if their Email servers are affected by such an emergency PIN messaging will still work without interruption despite bogged cell towers.
To suggest the BlackBerry solution is a "consumer" or ineffective form of communication during times of crisis clearly don't understand the benefits of GSM and PIN messaging.
- 03-25-2008, 12:28 PM #24
Yes, you are correct however they were talking about losing service during the pending RIM outage. I'm not sure if that would be true during that type of outage but do know that the phone side would work during this time although PIN messaging and email messaging would be delayed. This is my understanding, correct me if I am wrong.
- CrackBerry Newbie
03-25-2008, 12:54 PM #25
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Yah during the scheduled outage the data portion wouldn't have worked regardless of tower congestion. It is a great solution for Emergency response but unfortunately it is dependent on RIM's NOC to be up at all times, so I guess my original post was a moot point!