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    Default NEWS: Edward Snowden documents - CSEC used airport Wi-Fi to track Canadian travellers

    CSEC used airport Wi-Fi to track Canadian travellers: Edward Snowden documents

    "A top secret document retrieved by U.S. whistleblower Edward Snowden and obtained by CBC News shows that Canada's electronic spy agency used information from the free internet service at a major Canadian airport to track the wireless devices of thousands of ordinary airline passengers for days after they left the terminal..."

    CSEC used airport Wi-Fi to track Canadian travellers: Edward Snowden documents - Politics - CBC News

    I bet there will be some kind of document that comes out from Snowden that talks about BlackBerry giving the NSA and CSEC access to all of its devices!! If BlackBerry is reading this they better make sure this doesn't leak out or it's bye bye BlackBerry.
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    Who cares it's Metadata, get over it. Funny how quickly people forget what happens when our intelligence agencies start doing their job like wussies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunner24 View Post
    Who cares it's Metadata, get over it. Funny how quickly people forget what happens when our intelligence agencies start doing their job like wussies.

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    Deibert says metadata is "way more powerful than the content of communications. You can tell a lot more about people, their habits, their relationships, their friendships, even their political preferences, based on that type of metadata."

    So is your metadata important to you?
    There use to be a time when the spy agencies like CSEC and the NSA wouldn't spy on it's own people instead they would spy on each others people and trade the information back and forth. If metadata consists of very little information I wouldn't see a problem with it, but its clear that most people aren't clear on the extent of what's truly inside the metadata.
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    I personally think he's making things up now, he's out of the news and knows it, so nows he's making things up to try to get back into the headlines

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    people are funny. Follow me, take my info.I don't care anymore. My life is so incredibly boring that if it can give the NSA dude or gal checking into me a chuckle, at least I did something useful for the day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ibpluto View Post
    people are funny. Follow me, take my info.I don't care anymore. My life is so incredibly boring that if it can give the NSA dude or gal checking into me a chuckle, at least I did something useful for the day.
    Seriously. Who cares??
    Track me all day. It's your time spy guy...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ibpluto View Post
    people are funny. Follow me, take my info.I don't care anymore. My life is so incredibly boring that if it can give the NSA dude or gal checking into me a chuckle, at least I did something useful for the day.
    So you like the idea of people always watching your every move?
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    Quote Originally Posted by habs_fan View Post
    I personally think he's making things up now, he's out of the news and knows it, so nows he's making things up to try to get back into the headlines

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    What's been happening and a lot of people don't know this is Edward Snowden gave all the information to the Guardian he collected while working at the NSA. The Guardian in turn has been slowly leaking it out. Is it at the guidance of Snowden, who knows?
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    Quote Originally Posted by smoothrunnings View Post
    So you like the idea of people always watching your every move?
    Sure why not.....it'll be fun. gonna give them a wiggle every once in a while too.....

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    As the privacy commissioner said, meta data is not innocuous.

    Quote Originally Posted by smoothrunnings View Post
    Deibert says metadata is "way more powerful than the content of communications. You can tell a lot more about people, their habits, their relationships, their friendships, even their political preferences, based on that type of metadata."

    So is your metadata important to you?
    There use to be a time when the spy agencies like CSEC and the NSA wouldn't spy on it's own people instead they would spy on each others people and trade the information back and forth. If metadata consists of very little information I wouldn't see a problem with it, but its clear that most people aren't clear on the extent of what's truly inside the metadata.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunner24 View Post
    Who cares it's Metadata, get over it. Funny how quickly people forget what happens when our intelligence agencies start doing their job like wussies.

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    Oh? And pray tell, what happens? Do the scary terrorists blow us all up? Cuz its been shown multiple times that the NSA (and Canadian intelligence by extension) have not stopped a single credible threat based on electronic spying.

    Funny how quickly people forget.

    Personally I think we've gone past the point of no return. This spying will never stop, just become more intrusive and there's no amount of protests or legislation that can put an end to it. I've come to accept that fact, but that doesn't make any of it right. Just because I have nothing to hide, doesn't mean I want a peeping tom looking through my window at all times.

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    Are we really that surprised? Using open WiFi is like having unprotected sex with a hooker. You never know what you're going to walk out with.

    Nothing is free in this world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordCrankypants View Post
    Are we really that surprised? Using open WiFi is like having unprotected sex with a hooker. You never know what you're going to walk out with.

    Nothing is free in this world.

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    Couple that with the fact that it's at an International airport and it makes more than a little sense that they'd be tracking the internet activity of those coming and going. It totally makes sense from a national security standpoint. Seems they are starting to "reach" now as the bulk of the shocking stuff is out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunner24 View Post
    Who cares it's Metadata, get over it. Funny how quickly people forget what happens when our intelligence agencies start doing their job like wussies.

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    The metadata is more revealing than you realise. But let's not allow truth to cloud your vapid cheerleading of government snooping.

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    1984

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    Government does it, and we're outraged. Google, a private company does it, and we embrace it. How do you think they can draw traffic maps on Google Maps? They follow your position continuously.

    That is, Google is not the only one. Turnstyle was in the news just two or three weeks ago with the same exact Wifi-MAC address tracking system as the airport, with the objective of learning our customers habits.

    http://m.theglobeandmail.com/technol...service=mobile

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    You're logging into a public WiFi, what the hell do you expect?

    If they were tracking you through your carrier, that is one thing, but tracking through WiFi hot spot is like having security guards (or plain clothed CSEC ppl) there watching people.
    (Yes, they might not have gotten permission to use these WiFi networks, but if you open something up to people, it's not going to be secure.

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    Don't people read even a single licence agreement for a free wifi network? Take 5 minutes and read it through - it says that your data will be monitored. That's what you agree to when you click 'I agree'. Don't like it - use the data plan on your BlackBerry or stop complaining about government (or anyone else) snooping on your online activities.

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    All this stuff is great. Transparency, its the future and will change man in ways we yet can't imagine. The whole of the worlds social conscience to be brought together through the possibilities of technology. The other side of the equation is censorship and privacy, who really benefits from that? We all know where that leads. The day will come when technology will set man free from his own social chains.

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