NewBay for sale ?
As per the following RIM may be looking to sell newly acquired NewBay.
RIM looking to sell NewBay | Electronista
RIM to shed cloud services provider as restructuring continues
Research in Motion is looking to divest itself of the cloud service provider NewBay, which it acquired only last year. Sources familiar with the BlackBerry maker's plans tell Reuters that the NewBay sale would be yet another step in the company's continuing effort to retool and address its steadily worsening market woes.
RIM initially acquired NewBay in October of last year for $100 million. NewBay's LifeCache service -- which allows users to upload and share photos and videos -- as well as its Social Networking Gateway -- which allowed for updating social sites from a central hub -- were RIM's main targets. The Canadian manufacturer hoped to fold these cloud services into its own BlackBerry operating system and products, thereby giving BlackBerry users a mature and robust cloud component.
The acquisition was also reportedly part of a plan to boost revenue by allowing carriers to use RIM's services across a range of other smartphones. Such a plan never materialized, though.
Since then, though, RIM's market position has continued to suffer. In the face of competition from Apple, Google, and others, the BlackBerry platform has underperformed, and the company's revenues have dropped precipitously. RIM has now delayed the release of its next BlackBerry handsets until the first quarter of next year, and the company has been trimming its workforce steadily in an effort to bring costs under control. Should the company sell NewBay, it would most likely be in pursuance of that goal.
By Electronista Staff
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08-12-2012, 05:38 AM #2
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if blackberry did sell the NewBay idea then what would they do with the money... im really excited about BB10 but if its going to take until next year i might as well stay with the blackberry ive got, and for apple 'apparently' carriers are telling people not to buy the iphone so whatever the market if doing it needs to sort it self out same with RIM and Samsung.
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- CrackBerry Addict
08-12-2012, 09:02 AM #3
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If this true, it would a major step back. How will BlackBerry compete with other cloud offerings from Google and iCloud?
Unless there is a global strategic partnership with a large player, then this does not make sense and implies desparation to conserve cash for self preservation, a little longer.Evolution of Communication: Rotary Phone > Dial Tone > Motorola Walkie-talkie > Nokia 2160 > Nokia 6190 > Samsung a460 > Samsung a920 > BB 8700 > BB 9530 > BB 9860 > PlayBook 32GB > z-wait is over, BlackBerry Z10 for me
- 08-12-2012, 11:08 AM #6
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08-12-2012, 12:28 PM #9
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i agree with roo zilla...i understand they could use other cloud services but then i hope it provides some of the functionality that something like icloud does. taking a pic on my phone and having it instantly show up on my tablet would be a feature i would very much enjoyQNX and LTE, hand me a pen and let's do this.
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- 08-12-2012, 12:58 PM #10
If I remember reading correctly this is just a rumor, nothing official so a grain of salt will go a long way.
Personally I hope it's false, I'd love to see them bring the full life cache app to BB10WTB : 1 Trollsbane.
- 08-12-2012, 01:14 PM #11
Sigh... People will make a mountain out of a mole hill. They bought newbay, have integrated many of it's parts into BB10 OS and they don't need the rest. It's simple. Google Blackberry 10 'Share UI' and you'll get a glimpse of what is to come. In all honesty Blackberry was apart of the "cloud" before anyone was calling it the cloud. They've got the back end infrastructure already. Newbays aquisition has bolstered their efforts to make a more consumer friendly cloud service. BB10 will have the best cloud offering, one on par if not better than iOS's. Newbay is a big company Blackberry simply doesn't need all of it for their future goals. They don't want or need to micromanage a cloud service they simply wanted to get "in" with them to beef up their own offering.
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08-12-2012, 03:26 PM #14
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- 08-12-2012, 04:24 PM #15
BlackBerry Protect is fantastic, It is not a cloud solution it is a find my device, back up my device, wipe my device product. it does it as well as any other product on the market and is in no way behind other offerings.
It holds one advantage being that it's ONLY job is to do those tasks which makes it a product you set up and hope to never need again, compromising it would be worthless as it is connected to no other services.
BBM Music, is like no other system out there, RIM yes has miles to go with it should they choose to not drop it, but it is completely different than iTunes/Google Music it is a social network for music within a social network, I don't have any supporting numbers but I'm confident a higher percentage of BlackBerry users used BBM Music over the failed social media experiments that Apple has tied into itunes.
Most people who don't use the services probably would agree with you, but people who don't use the services shouldn't really be commenting on the services it would be ignorant to do so.
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08-12-2012, 05:36 PM #16
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two things for sure:
first, it is going to be a lot harder for RIM to innovate under their own name if they rely on a third party for cloud service.
second, whether they keep newbay or not, they are still late in the game. There is no RIM branded cloud on BB7 or QNX. This is a greater sign of lack of inovation in the consumer space and it has been like this for 4-5y. They seem to have turned the corner with BB10, but bad execution means still no QNX phone for sale, or comaptible phone hardware (BB7 phones not compatible).Jobs: the apps nazi
- 08-12-2012, 05:44 PM #18
1. Restore all settings, including everything from the volume you have your ringer set for to the the wallpaper.
2. Restore all apps. Not only restore them, but put them back exactly in the same place before the restore in addition to restoring all data stored in them including whatever settings you might have had.
3, Restore all photos.
4. I have iTunes match, which will also download all my playlists and list of all my music, which can be downloaded anytime.
Until a Blackberry can offer similar features in their "cloud" service, it's not in the same league.
- 08-12-2012, 06:03 PM #19
BlackBerry Protect is a solution for protecting ones data and device, hence it's name. It is excellent in what it does. It has room for improvement, but it isn't iCloud, RIM never claimed it to be iCloud, it is a cloud service to Protect your device.
I don't deny RIM is behind in Cloud service but saying BlackBerry protect is behind is the hate for RIM showing through.
And yes I am referring to BBM Music, because that is RIM's Music service.
RIM doesn't have a cloud service for storage, no one is arguing that they do have, but the Services RIM offers are good. RIM needs more of them, but they aren't offering half a$$ed attempts they just don't offer it.
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- 08-12-2012, 06:40 PM #23
that doesn't change that I want them to offer a cloud service.
BUT! IF I was to be the person in charge of RIM's cloud service I wouldn't do it the Apple or Google way.
I would be partnering up with the Carriers yet again. BlackBerry Cloud Service would tie into BIS, bringing users Webmail for their Carrier.BlackBerry.net address. Bringing them tiered storage options, the first being free, and the remainder being Billed through carrier.
Tied to your cloud storage solution is the External BlackBerry protect, an External BBM Music/ and BlackBerry Media Share service, an External Cloud Contact manager/Calendar,
They would tie BBM Groups into the Cloud service allowing groups free shared space and the ability to buy more space.
RIM's Cloud Solution needs to add value to their BIS service to the Carriers by offering carrier billing but build on RIM's social networking, and dataflow management strengths.
I want A la carte Cloud services, and the choice to connect them.
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08-12-2012, 07:01 PM #24
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If you listen to what Heins says at BB World's press session, it is clear that with limited resources and the need to cut costs, RIM doesn't want to be doing stuff that it's not really good at (media, BBM music, maps, etc.). That's the reason why they just licensed mapping solution from TomTom instead of building BB Traffic with the ex-Dash employees. If RIM is indeed trying to offload NewBay, it is likely they got a deal done with a big cloud provider (may be even MS) such that NewBay isn't really needed anymore.