- 11-16-12, 03:46 AM #26
I think there's a much simpler reason behind not mentioning RIM/Blackberry. Since both MS and RIM are pretty much in the same boat releasing a new product to the mobile industry, Microsoft finds it smarter to simply not make any statements that may bring any kind of attention to Blackberry. They'd prefer BB10 was out-of-sight/out-of-mind with any potential Windows Phone customer.
- 11-16-12, 06:43 AM #28
Re: Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer opens fire at Android, iOS
If y'all think Ballmer is being "nice" to RIM because of a supposed agreement, you have another thing coming. MS has way more corporate mixing with Google and Apple I'm sure.
RIM could be his baby and he'd still attack if it give him leverage.
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Not sure about Microsoft opening fire at Android and iOS as Microsoft will be releasing it's Office suite for iOS and Android next year, not RIM. I think Microsoft wants third place and will do whatever to make it happen.
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Funny that Apple is now the thorn in Microsoft's side, especially considering how Microsoft basically bailed/saved Apple from rotting years ago. Maybe now Microsoft is regretting it.
Also, maybe Ballmer didn't want to mention BB because that would mean admitting BB10 is a threat to them. You know how embarrassed he'd be if people caught him admitting that truth.I use BB10...the blasphemy!
- 11-16-12, 05:27 PM #39
Rim can't afford to have any enemies at this point and Microsoft could help Rim and not hinder them. The big two Apple and Google are the ones to worry about.Make sure you vote! Your vote counts!
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- 11-17-12, 01:07 AM #41
Back to the topic
I think many people have hit the nail on the head. If WP8 fails, MS still has a fairly amiable relationship with RIM...and I suspect a partnership with RIM could be a fallback option.
Don't underestimate the deep distrust MS has for Google. Google's taking the battle to them in Search, web browser, living room....and now Google's Chrome OS and Google Docs are trying to eat into Microsoft's OS and Office bread and butter.
Microsoft's search division isn't really profitable, but MS still cannot afford to concede the market to Google. Anything that erodes Google's stranglehold is fine with Microsoft.
Currently, Android's smartphone marketshare is now 75% worldwide. You think Ballmer will shed too many tears if a successful BB10/WP8 assault cuts this down to 60%?
- 11-17-12, 03:51 AM #42
Friends are everywhere:
Microsoft and Apple: mobile partners as Apple licenses patents to Redmond
"Apple licensing its patents allowed Microsoft to add features and and functionality that Apple developed first in the iPhone, without fear of the kind of litigation that Microsoft faced from Apple when first launching Windows."
Apple and Microsoft: Forging the Future Through Partnership?
Here's another strange partnership:
Apple, Microsoft, RIM pay out $4.5B for Nortel patents, Google sits alone in the corner
The question is, why would MS mention RIM?
There is nothing special going other than imaginations not held in check.
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- 11-17-12, 08:31 AM #44
I don't understand why RIM and Microsoft would be snipping at each other. Much bigger customer base with android and ios to work with. If you can peel 5% from both that is a pretty good chunk of business, whereas peeling of 5% from rim or MS phones is not really enticing.
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