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01-17-2012, 07:43 AM
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Here' another nice mention of RIM at CES. Seven Top Gadgets/Tech at CES - TheStreet
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Yes, a nice mention of using the BB phone to control the playbook.
This will entice people to buy BB phones | 
01-17-2012, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by anthogag Yes, a nice mention of using the BB phone to control the playbook.
This will entice people to buy BB phones  | What's great here is that no, you WON'T need a BB to get a great experience out of the Playbook. But you will get a BETTER one...
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01-17-2012, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by anthogag Yes, a nice mention of using the BB phone to control the playbook.
This will entice people to buy BB phones  | People already buy BB phones; they need to "entice" people to buy the PlayBook. After all, BB "subscribers" outnumber PB users 75:1 (75 million subscribers, ~1 million PlayBooks sold).
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01-17-2012, 09:53 AM
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Just so everyone knows, the Applehead media is slamming the fact that OS2 will not support BBM. They're inferring that BB10 is less robust and is proving more complicated to program as the root cause of its absence. This sets up nicely for the coming attacks on BB10 handsets, once they're announced.
Leading the pack is our former friend, Mike A. from RBC. He certainly has gone from a fanatical RIM supporter to an ardent critic. I can understand his disappointment with the company, but how about some moderation on either side. Bi-polar disease knows no bounds.
While TheSteet article is positive, it only acknowledges the remote control feature and ignores the devices themselves.
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01-17-2012, 11:17 AM
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It just doesnt make sense. CEO for the app "Cut the rope" just said it was easy to port his app from iOS to PlayBook. The reason why BBM took longer than expected has been reported countless times already. We also know what QNX is already powering. so less robust? more complicated? i had a chuckle when i read that.
there's really no point slamming other platforms. Everyone has their problem, no single OS is perfect. If i wanted to there's lots to complain about iOS too. Apple took 4-5 years to implement iMessage and notifications. Is that due to iOS being complicated to program? Or why "Cut and paste" took a year to implement? Why fast app switching (i wanted to say multi-task but it isn't really that) took so long too? Even now, plenty of people are jailbreaking their phones to get more features. I could go on and on. lol. But whats the point? We are not the programmers, so we have no idea how hard or difficult it can be. Apple took their time to ensure they have a solid integration of features on their OS before releasing it. Why can't RIM, Google, Microsoft and HP do the same?
Its not just about adding whatever features in blindly, it's carefully planning how to integrate the feature to make it useful and ensure optimum user experience. No point releasing half-baked products that are just going to leave a bitter after taste.
my 0.02 cents.
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01-17-2012, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Alex_Hong Apple took 4-5 years to implement iMessage and notifications. Is that due to iOS being complicated to program? Or why "Cut and paste" took a year to implement? Why fast app switching (i wanted to say multi-task but it isn't really that) took so long too? Even now, plenty of people are jailbreaking their phones to get more features. I could go on and on. lol. But whats the point? We are not the programmers, so we have no idea how hard or difficult it can be. Apple took their time to ensure they have a solid integration of features on their OS before releasing it. Why can't RIM, Google, Microsoft and HP do the same? | You give Apple too much credit; copy and paste actually took 2 years, yet the timing was largely seen as irrelevant because of platform growth. It's the same reason why the BB's weak browsers weren't really a problem until there were phones out there with better software; sure, some people complained, but RIM was growing and it wasn't a big deal. Now that they're not growing (or growing more slowly than others), EVERYTHING is a big deal.
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01-17-2012, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Alex_Hong It just doesnt make sense. CEO for the app "Cut the rope" just said it was easy to port his app from iOS to PlayBook. The reason why BBM took longer than expected has been reported countless times already. We also know what QNX is already powering. so less robust? more complicated? i had a chuckle when i read that.
there's really no point slamming other platforms. Everyone has their problem, no single OS is perfect. If i wanted to there's lots to complain about iOS too. Apple took 4-5 years to implement iMessage and notifications. Is that due to iOS being complicated to program? Or why "Cut and paste" took a year to implement? Why fast app switching (i wanted to say multi-task but it isn't really that) took so long too? Even now, plenty of people are jailbreaking their phones to get more features. I could go on and on. lol. But whats the point? We are not the programmers, so we have no idea how hard or difficult it can be. Apple took their time to ensure they have a solid integration of features on their OS before releasing it. Why can't RIM, Google, Microsoft and HP do the same?
Its not just about adding whatever features in blindly, it's carefully planning how to integrate the feature to make it useful and ensure optimum user experience. No point releasing half-baked products that are just going to leave a bitter after taste.
my 0.02 cents. | iPad1 is the worst half-baked piece of mediocrity I ever used. And 6 months later Apple releases a new tablet. Too bad for all the suckers who shelled out $500 for a beta! I lost the last trace of respect I had for Apple after that.
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01-18-2012, 02:22 AM
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Playbook 2.0 will be a very solid release .. and RIM will build on that solid software release ... with more major positive developments ... this year will be good for RIM .. haters will hate .. and most bloggers have hidden agendas or are incompetent! ... Playbook users will decide for themselves! ... most whom i have showed the playbook to are very impressed already! .. wait for 2.0! ...
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well deserved, I watched all the blackberry stuff on youtube and it was pretty exciting every time eh
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01-18-2012, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ALToronto iPad1 is the worst half-baked piece of mediocrity I ever used. And 6 months later Apple releases a new tablet. Too bad for all the suckers who shelled out $500 for a beta! I lost the last trace of respect I had for Apple after that. | iPad shipped 4/2010 for $499.
iPad 2 shipped 3/2011, 11 months, later for $499.
Gazelle will buy the original 16gb wifi iPad for $196 21 months later, because there is still sufficient demand to allow them to resell it for more than $196.
Original iPad runs the latest 5.0 iOS perfectly.
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Originally Posted by EchoTango Leading the pack is our former friend, Mike A. from RBC. He certainly has gone from a fanatical RIM supporter to an ardent critic. I can understand his disappointment with the company, but how about some moderation on either side. Bi-polar disease knows no bounds. | Curious, how is it that you can determine which RIMM critics are bi-polar (above) and which are co-opted or bribed?
Isn't it possible that Mike A. was bribed and is in fact not bi-polar, while the gentlemen in the other thread actually have a medical condition?
Just looking at all sides...
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01-18-2012, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Palmless Curious, how is it that you can determine which RIMM critics are bi-polar (above) and which are co-opted or bribed?
Isn't it possible that Mike A. was bribed and is in fact not bi-polar, while the gentlemen in the other thread actually have a medical condition?
Just looking at all sides... | I believe the commenter always chooses "bi-polar" in the bottom half of the hour, "bribed" in the top half. You know, there are rules.
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01-18-2012, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by EchoTango Leading the pack is our former friend, Mike A. from RBC. He certainly has gone from a fanatical RIM supporter to an ardent critic. I can understand his disappointment with the company, but how about some moderation on either side. | A previously strongly performing stock loses on the order of 70% of its value in a year and you are recommending a financial analyst should preach moderation to his clients? Really?
RIM hasn't yet showed any signs of reversing its current trend. The only times the stock has rebounded recently has been after rumours of buyouts or takeovers. Realistically, RIMM is a speculative stock right now. Quote: |
Bi-polar disease knows no bounds.
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01-18-2012, 11:55 PM
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Great to see another media outlet realize that PB OS 2.0/QNX/BB OS10 actually is a deal changer, and provides multiple things that other tablets don't. If Apple had put out either free tethering or remote control for your tablet via your phone the accolades would not stop flowing for them, oh yeah, it can run thousands of Android apps as well, but when RIM does it...
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01-19-2012, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by BBOttawa Great to see another media outlet realize that PB OS 2.0/QNX/BB OS10 actually is a deal changer, and provides multiple things that other tablets don't. | Yes, a "game changer," like PlayBook OS 1.0, the Storm 2, Storm, etc. RIM's had a few "game changers" over the last few years, yet the last product that actually delivered on that promise was the Curve. Quote:
Originally Posted by BBOttawa If Apple had put out either free tethering or remote control for your tablet via your phone the accolades would not stop flowing for them, oh yeah, it can run thousands of Android apps as well, but when RIM does it... | As far as I know, RIM hadn't put out "free tethering" either; see AT&T. But honestly, if Aple introduced features that were reliant on the user having an iPhone commenters like you would complain about lock-in, like you did over iTunes DRM (which of course was/is mandated by content providers, not Apple, Amazon or anyone else). You may feel like RIM's being beaten up pretty badly, but when you're a publicly traded company with financials that steadily trend downward, that's what should happen.
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