- 01-22-13, 08:29 AM #26
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- 01-22-13, 08:46 AM #27
In regards to multi-tasking:
You have made several false statements about the usability/existance of multi-tasking on the Playbook in other threads and you are wrong. For basically two years we have been able to record video and then move to other apps all the while the video continues to record. This is a "useable" form of multi-tasking and been around far longer than this new and improved (if infact it can perform this very specific example because I don't want to have to browse the web or type out the critical points of the seminar on only half a screen) version that Samsung has released.
Secondly, I have WhatsApp Messenger on my 9810 so clearly BB has WhatsApp. BB10 may or may not have it at release and if it is missing it is a loss for sure.
- 01-22-13, 09:33 AM #28
I never said the PB doesn't multitask. I said it's level of multitasking isn't on par with whats available right now (namely from Samsung). You CAN NOT watch a video and email or edit pdf's at the same time on a PB (without being connected to HDMI out).
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- 01-22-13, 09:51 AM #29
Why can't someone crosscompile Wazapp (from Wazapp | Because Meego and Maemo are great platforms!) for BB10? It's great on the Nokia N9, native, and thanks to Qt it should integrate fine into the messaging hub...
- 01-22-13, 10:04 AM #30
Just a though about whatsapp !!
whatsapp will be on bb10. maybe not from the start but it will be there.
whatsapp became big as a messenger over all platforms. the moment it cuts out a platform that is likely to have around 70 million, not only does it directly lose that many subscibers, it immediately becomes useless to the friends of said 70mill on supported platforms, who will then have to get an alternative to speak to their bb10 friends.
whatsapp not coming to bb10 will be worse for whatsapp then bb10.
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- 01-22-13, 10:12 AM #31
Please don't tell me we're going to see strikes, threads, petitions & suicides to get Whatsapp for BB10 the way people went all emotional for Skype, we all know how well that went down don't we (for the playbook).
- CrackBerry Genius
01-22-13, 10:56 AM #33
- 3,640 Posts
Like Viki. Whether its third party or not is beside the point to my argument. I am talking about the people who deemed something absolutely unnecessary and who will suddenly deem it to be something they can't live without, simply because RIM sudddenly catches up and puts it on BB10.
- 01-22-13, 11:20 AM #35
If WhatsApp doesn't support BlackBerry 10, somebody else will. I think Viber is ready to support Blackberry 10 at launch.
BlackBerry 10 users will simply ask their non BlackBerry friends to download Viber and then Viber will become the king and WhatsApp will lose the opportunity.
The only way WhatsApp can win by not supporting BlackBerry 10 is if ALL other cross-platform messengers also decided to not support BlackBerry 10. But we already know that (at least) Viber is going to be available at launch. So, if WhatsApp doesn't support BB 10, it's going to be their loss.
Yes, I know, people don't generally want to download unproven apps. But I am sure I can persuade my non BlackBerry friends (with very little effort) to download Viber (if WhatsApp is not available)
- 01-22-13, 11:58 AM #36
It may not be hypocrisy for many. Many people may deem the overall BlackBerry experience, BBM, security, International traveling advantages, etc. that a BlackBerry has provided higher than what the competition currently provides, and if RIM can still provide what they did, and can add features that other platforms have excelled at, those people would still consider a BB10 BlackBerry to be a superior device for their needs, just as BBOS is still a superior device for their needs. I know that I use a BlackBerry not because of loyalty to RIM, but simply because it is the best, single device that meets my personal requirements, and I'm not going to carry a utility belt or murse to carry around a ton of different hardware. Adding in robust app, web and media support that rivals, and has the potential to exceed the competition to the existing BlackBerry experience will just solidify this for me as it adds gravy while covering my priorities. So when people make statements like they don't need/use it, so it isn't important, that is true at least for them over what they have for their requirements. Sure their are die hard fans that will defend RIM no matter what, but I'm sure the die hard trolls will slam RIM no matter how great the new phones and software is.
Personally I won't download Whatsapp even if available, but I'd like to see it as an available option for those who need/want it. If the voice assistant works great, I'll likely start using it as I will no longer have a physical keyboard to use while driving (I know evil txt'ing driver). Probably even start playing some games on the phone, and if Nike+ is available and works with the GPS I'll start using that too. I know it won't be the first phone to have these apps/features, but it should be the first to have these apps/features, while still meeting the requirements that I have for a single device, and that will personally excite me, and probably a lot of people here at CrackBerry.
- 01-22-13, 12:06 PM #37
- 01-22-13, 12:08 PM #38
- 01-22-13, 12:27 PM #40
Besides, what I am saying is this: if WhatsApp doesn't support BlackBerry 10 at launch and somebody else (eg: Viber, Kik) does then it would not be too hard for me to convince my WhatsApp friends to download Viber. Some may already have it, some may download it and some may refuse to download it. But the net effect is that quite a few would become available on this other messenger (Viber, using Viber just as an example here). So, WhatsApp will lose customers/users.
The whole point of having a cross-platform messenger is that it should be cross-platform. If WhatsApp ignores BlackBerry 10, somebody else will take its place (we already know Viber will be ready).
Of course, I want WhatsApp to be available on BlackBerry 10 at launch. But if it isn't available, it's going to be WhatsApp's loss as much as it's going to be ours (users's).
- CrackBerry Addict
- 557 Posts
Don't you remember that before whatsapp you use to say "BBM me" and SMS wasn't even used ?
The issue with Whatsapp is that you have to give your NUMBER to add a contact. To give your BBM pin you don't have to reveal your phone number, is still a matter of security, and i think people would go BBM and forget about whatsapp. Is as simply as downloading an app, sharing it with your friends and before you know it, its viral.
In reply to whom said that would be childish to make a decision on a rage attack, don't miss my point. I'm just saying that BBM is the best instant messaging app ever created, and Whatsapp inc. shouldn't be pretending to be the hotshots cause if the case was that BBM would go cross platform, they'd be history i bet.
In reply to whom said that BBM it's RIM's unique selling point, i think that BB10 is about a lot more than just a messaging app right now.
- 01-22-13, 01:13 PM #42
Whatsapp is top of the pile because of the service it provides across all platforms. cut that out and it will soon be replaced.
Thats why whatsapp will appear on BB10.
They're probably just waiting for release
- 01-22-13, 01:32 PM #43
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- CrackBerry Abuser
01-22-13, 03:07 PM #46
- 388 Posts
As an android user with needs to communicate with friends and family oversea, I have seen enough usage and realize the potent of Whatsapp as a replacement of SMS.
Whatsapp has pretty much replaced BBM as the messaging app of choice outside the BB and Canadian market. It is very difficult to reverse the trend. With the proliferation of low cost Android devices, it will soon erode the low cost BB market in Africa, India and Indonesia. RIMM will have a difficult time to get any takers even if they make their BBM cross platform. Total active BBM users has certainly reach their peak and will only go down from now on. I expect in one to two years the trend will likely be using Whatsapp as the de factor message app, with Facebook as backup for those friends who don't have Whatsapp.
- 01-22-13, 03:28 PM #47
Whatsapp is about to start charging a suvscription fee. I'm not paying and neither are my contacts. I'm shur they know this is a death sentance for them. But its a quik way of cashing out and saying cya later. Even if half there subscribers pay 1$ that's a quik 30million in the pocket.
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