Interesting test to see how nice the Media really is with RIM

[apengue1]

As many of you all know, Apple submitted 'historical' quarter results yesterday:

Reuters
CBC
Engadget

You get the picture..

After this crazy revenue report, Apple shares apparently skyrocketed in aftermarket trading hours, as much as apparently 8%

Meanwhile today they are only up 5.5% from closing yesterday, while RIM is up 6.5%.
Now there's still a couple hours left in trading, but what does it say if RIM stock has more gain than its competitor who just posted a blowout revenue? Surely this doesn't make sense.. and I'm not a stock guru or an expert, but it seems almost embarrassing on AAPL's end.

I guess we'll see who actually takes notice of this at the end of the day, and we'll see if Apple gets a free pass from this story from the media.. once again.

Let me know what you think.

EDIT: AAPL: 6.25% RIMM: 9.33%

[trelawrence]

Is your argument that the media should be trumpeting RIM's gains more than Apple's? Trying to make sure I understand your perspective.

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[apengue1]

Trumpeting.. not so much.

But if it is not even acknowledged.. goes completely under the radar. It just wouldn't make sense to me after something so 'historical'. Just wondering if anyone will notice. For some reason, I doubt anyone will. In business, numbers talk, shouldn't they?

[trelawrence]

But it is two different things.

One company has had historic gains. The other historic losses. The latter had not even come close to making up loss ground.

Compare both stocks TODAY.

If you were a news chief, which would you pick to go to press with?

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[bigtime2]

Originally Posted by apengue1

Trumpeting.. not so much.

But if it is not even acknowledged.. goes completely under the radar. It just wouldn't make sense to me after something so 'historical'. Just wondering if anyone will notice. For some reason, I doubt anyone will. In business, numbers talk, shouldn't they?

You want media to acknowledge that rim's stock price is up 6?

[JD914]

Originally Posted by apengue1

As many of you all know, Apple submitted 'historical' quarter results yesterday:

Reuters
CBC
Engadget

You get the picture..

After this crazy revenue report, Apple shares apparently skyrocketed in aftermarket trading hours, as much as apparently 8%

Meanwhile today they are only up 5.5% from closing yesterday, while RIM is up 6.5%.
Now there's still a couple hours left in trading, but what does it say if RIM stock has more gain than its competitor who just posted a blowout revenue? Surely this doesn't make sense.. and I'm not a stock guru or an expert, but it seems almost embarrassing on AAPL's end.

I guess we'll see who actually takes notice of this at the end of the day, and we'll see if Apple gets a free pass from this story from the media.. once again.

Let me know what you think.

EDIT: AAPL: 6.25% RIMM: 9.33%

APPL $447.80
RIMM a measly $16.24


Now why should anyone report on a stock that's doing poorly regardless of the 9.33% rise?

[Doc Z]

Originally Posted by JD914

APPL $447.80
RIMM a measly $16.24


Now why should anyone report on a stock that's doing poorly regardless of the 9.33% rise?

Nothing else to say here lol

[howarmat]

Apple just had a record quarter, they sold around 3 million more ipads alone than RIM will sell phones and PBs combined in the next quarter. Its considerably big tech news.

When RIM reports their earnings they will also make the news for a few days I am sure whether they are good or bad. Even though they are 6% up for today they are still down from before the CEO announcement. Not much to get excited about really. They need several weeks of steady upwards progress. Getting back to book value would be something worth talking about.

[Economist101]

Originally Posted by apengue1

Trumpeting.. not so much.

But if it is not even acknowledged.. goes completely under the radar. It just wouldn't make sense to me after something so 'historical'. Just wondering if anyone will notice. For some reason, I doubt anyone will. In business, numbers talk, shouldn't they?

The numbers do talk:

37 million iPhones vs 14 million BlackBerrys
15 million iPads vs 150K PlayBooks
$13 billion in profit vs $265 million
$46 billion in revenue vs $4 billion
$98 billion in cash vs $1.5 billion

The numbers speak volumes, even without complete quarter overlap. Meanwhile, if you bought RIMM as recently as last week you're currently standing at a net loss.

[ridemaster]

apple went through there fair share of issues and major set backs and failures. and look where they are today.

RIMM is on the road to recovery, and will prevail.

I for one have just purchased a bunch of shares knowing they will fluctuate in an upward rising.

[southlander]

The percentages are the same but they do not represent the same thing.

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[Doc Z]

Originally Posted by Economist101

The numbers do talk:

37 million iPhones vs 14 million BlackBerrys
15 million iPads vs 150K PlayBooks
$13 billion in profit vs $265 million
$46 billion in revenue vs $4 billion
$98 billion in cash vs $1.5 billion

The numbers speak volumes, even without complete quarter overlap. Meanwhile, if you bought RIMM as recently as last week you're currently standing at a net loss.

That's just insane to me. How RIM could have allowed to fade into irrelevance while Apple completely dominated their market is beyond me.

[apengue1]

I understand where you're all coming from. But speaking from an investors point of view.. why are people investing in RIMM today, and not AAPL? Ok sure, people are obviously buying AAPL stock today as they're up 6%, but comparatively speaking, RIMM investors are clearly buying more stock today.

Thank you for all your replies. If there's something I'm missing, let me know.

[EchoTango]

The big difference is Apple is bouncing over it's record highs and RIM is at record lows. While this means Apple is a safer bet, it also means their upside is limited by P/E ratios and the general market trend.

RIM has so much headroom, it's gotten to be ridiculous. Their all time high is $144 and while there is some small downside risk, RIM is probably a better investment today than Apple.

[JD914]

Originally Posted by EchoTango

The big difference is Apple is bouncing over it's record highs and RIM is at record lows. While this means Apple is a safer bet, it also means their upside is limited by P/E ratios and the general market trend.

RIM has so much headroom, it's gotten to be ridiculous. Their all time high is $144 and while there is some small downside risk, RIM is probably a better investment today than Apple.

You gotta be either kidding or in severe denial. RIMM stock isn't even worth the paper it's written on. You really don't expect anyone in here to believe you?