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    LOL. That's not my pic I'm not THAT old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rolltide78 View Post
    Has anyone tried out the mouse/keyboard BT support with the Z10? I'm assuming there is no dual screen support?
    Yes it works with a keyboard and mouse im not sure about the dual screen though:. BB Z 10 and a bluetooth keyboard and mouse ?
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    Default Heins says Z10 wiil replace your desktop and laptop

    No it wont simply because it hasnt got the screen size. Even the Note 2 is just a handy,pocket sized device. The biggest problem for the Z10 is its average 1800 mAh baterry and average battery life. This is why I want a 2100 mAh 3.1" qwerty keyboard Q10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by recompile View Post
    I'm forced to agree with Mike007 here. (How did that happen?!) Thin clients are, well, just plain awful. Oh, and how wasteful! That's to say nothing about the philosophical problems with the dystopian vision of computing-as-a-service that companies like Microsoft dream about.

    Granted, we do seem to be moving toward an era where your mobile becomes your workstation. Phones today are at least on par with (and often well above) later netbook models. Connecting a keyboard, mouse, and display to a phone to get a desktop-like experience surely isn't outside the realm of possibility. (Think back to 2006. What did a high-end desktop look like? What are we doing with desktops now that we weren't doing then?)

    I've been saying that for years, long before RIM killed the PDA market. I highly doubt I'm the first, and I know that I'm not the last. It's not too difficult to see your tablet becoming little more than a battery and display. It's even easier to see your tablet become your notebook. (We're doing that now!) Why is it so difficult to imagine, then, your phone becoming your laptop? Is it such a leap to then imagine how it could become your desktop?

    It's not the technology that's holding us back. We're there. That said, I'd hate to see today's mobile OS's power that vision; not even BB10. Mobile operating systems are just far too closed-off. (I blame Apple for that nasty trend. We wouldn't have put up with that nonsense from any other company, now it's standard across the board.) Maybe if there was a standard app package and API so that apps could be shared across platforms and distribution wasn't limited to a particular vendor's app store, it could meaningfully change computing. In a world filled with a loose collection of closed and otherwise locked-down platforms, however, and that dream quickly turns in to a nightmare. I'm not asking for an RMS level of freedom, I'm only asking for as much as we've had with desktops in the past. Any less is tyranny.
    You mean html5? What RIM has been pushing but the duopoly (particularly apple) havent been as supportive in and actually block html5 and re-route you to their app store.

    I'm hoping with new competing OSs like ubuntu, tizen and mozilla and their adoption by OEMs we see android take the big fall it has coming after such a fast ascent, we see HTML5 truly supported and app stores become more of an option and less seen as the holy grail to a computing platform. Closed systems tend to be failures in the longterm anyways and are engulfed by the competition, and there is plenty competition to be had. People don't stand by and just let a couple company have all the profits for long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBigDogs View Post
    How Blackberry Can Win (Big) In The Mobile World:
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    Cool article.

    This conversation is about replacing work desktops but our mobile devices are going to replace everything. Its just a matter of when. PCs, laptops, TVs, gaming systems. They've mostly made music players, watches, cameras aside redundant. People think its going to stop there? These markets will likely live on as high-end niche markets.

    Even if the experience isnt as good as what they are replacing people adapt. I personally think the ipad is a piece of junk but millions I'm sure use it as a PC replacement. With time and as things advance the experience will be as good and then better than what they are replacing.


    As per the arctile, BBs poised to be the leader. Its science!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rolltide78 View Post
    Has anyone tried out the mouse/keyboard BT support with the Z10? I'm assuming there is no dual screen support?
    I will try pairing my BlackBerry Bluetooth Mini-Keyboard with my BlackBerry Z10 this weekend. I can happily report the JayBirdGear BlueBuds X headphones work flawlessly with the BlackBerry Z10 when listening to music. I still have to determine if the headphones allow talking during a telephone call or if they only support audio. BBX1 for my BBZ10 running BBOS10.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mc177 View Post
    From a consumer stand point/student user and to be able to transfer files from a phone to a harddrive/flash drive/camera without a computer on the go, i would've have taught USB on the go would've been supported from the get go since Heins emphasised mobile computing. But i guess thats what the dock is for.. Rather bulky though.
    The Seagate GoFlex WiFi 500 GB External Hard Drive allows you to transfer files or access files between the device and BlackBerry PlayBook and I would imagine the BlackBerry Z10. I wish it was a bit thnner and lighter so carrying it would be easier.
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    With a good amount of refinement I could see that. But I would say bb10 maybe not a z10. That being said I hardly use my computer anymore its either my 9930 or my playbook not. Been like that for about the last 2 years. So I would say possible but not for a bit. I believe apple feels like that about ios tho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeo007 View Post
    Let's say that remote technology has advanced enough that there is no need for a full desktop computer any more (pipe dream, but bear with me)
    Then let's say that a site did decide to go entirely virtual or remote.
    Server cost is a wipe, as are peripheral costs (would be slightly more for bluetooth, but just ignore that.)
    So the price difference you're looking at is between a thin client and a smartphone.
    Do you remember Sun Microsystems' SunRay workstations? Insert card, your profile loads from the network server and your workspace opens exactly as you left it even if you insert it into a different SunRay on the network, and when you leave the workstation simply remove the card. Simplicity. Security.
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    Default Re: Heins says Z10 wiil replace your desktop and laptop

    Yes but most are given computers. This discussion is about using phones as desktop replacement. Also it wouldn't be hard to get familiar with the OS.
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    Default Re: Heins says Z10 wiil replace your desktop and laptop

    I can see this replacing my computer once it runs world of war craft. Not too mentioned my auto cadre renders and visual basic compilations. Uses my 3 by 25 inches monitors in hydravision. Come to think of it not a fn chance of replacing my desktop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MobileMadness002 View Post
    I can see this replacing my computer once it runs world of war craft. Not too mentioned my auto cadre renders and visual basic compilations. Uses my 3 by 25 inches monitors in hydravision. Come to think of it not a fn chance of replacing my desktop.

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    For people that do basic tasks like email, word docs, spreadsheets, etc, I could certainly see their phone one day replacing their desktop/laptop. In your case, it definitely would not work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hurds View Post
    You mean html5? What RIM has been pushing but the duopoly (particularly apple) havent been as supportive in and actually block html5 and re-route you to their app store.
    There's a bit more to it than that. With just HTML5, for example, you'd also need a standard package with support across multiple platforms for the format. Even then, you'd be pretty limited in the type of app you could produce without additional API's standardized across the various phone platforms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by recompile View Post
    There's a bit more to it than that. With just HTML5, for example, you'd also need a standard package with support across multiple platforms for the format. Even then, you'd be pretty limited in the type of app you could produce without additional API's standardized across the various phone platforms.
    Isn't that the point of HTML5? Standarized across all platforms? I'm sure most platforms (maybe except mozilla) will have their own native development if needed.
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    I have used Citrix for years and I find it effective, fast and full featured. Granted there are a few programmes which don't run on it but they are few and highly specialised. Our IT department logs on my exclusively using Citrix and are able to fully support 90% of the issues.

    Thin client hosting is the future for the majority of users, there will always be exceptions.
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    BB 10 is able to support up to 72 cores...the future is closer than you think...unless, of course, you think you're smarter than Thor...
    I have my doubts ...


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    Quote Originally Posted by BThunderW View Post
    LOL. That's not my pic I'm not THAT old.


    ...but I am a geek. Not a typical one by any standard.
    The movie. "Enemy of The State ", is based on the life of BThunderW...


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    Quote Originally Posted by hurds View Post
    Isn't that the point of HTML5? Standarized across all platforms? I'm sure most platforms (maybe except mozilla) will have their own native development if needed.
    Again, something like HTML5 and JavaScript could only be part of a whole solution. It might help to think about things like installation and distribution.
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    The way my net book runs since upgrading to W8 I'm willing to give it a try, windows Explorer keeps freezing on me and it's more or less imposibile to go back to w7 basic. W8 beta ran much better than the official pro version.
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    Hahah, forgive them BThunderW most people dont know about the old mainframe computers where everyone connected to them with terminals. All you need a basic client (video out and fast network) to log into your virtual machines hosted on the cluster and let them do all the heavy lifting
    Well BB10 is definitely FAST.
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    yes. but that type of thing is further out than the things blackberry needs to tackle.
    1. win back handset share.
    2. get a competitive tablet out.
    3. leverage the qnx installed base by striking partnerships with car makers to provide connected services.
    4. something else...

    ... and then somewhere down the list is taking on microsoft and apple in the pc/laptop space.

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    Agreed. All tech company bosses talk of a fantasy world because reality is so tough. Plugging a keyboard into a phone or any small screen device is a crazy idea. For many years now we've had laptops that have been quite good for mobile computing, and I just don't believe BB can impinge on that space. I would value add to your list, because at the moment high-end phones including the Z10 are ridiculously expensive. Pile 'em high and sell 'em cheap could be BB's salvation, even if they have to sell units at a loss for a year or two.
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    Here's Hein's presentation on Mobile Computing (skip the first 15 min): Podium - Tuesday, February 5 2013 - Toronto - Rogers TV
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    Quote Originally Posted by recompile View Post
    Again, something like HTML5 and JavaScript could only be part of a whole solution. It might help to think about things like installation and distribution.
    Installation? off-line mode. can you not download an html5 app?. Distribution? the interent. Unless I'm missing what your saying. I thought it was the whole point of HTML5, standarized across platforms and accessible to everyone.
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    BlackBerry patented a rather interesting device a few months ago. It looked exactly like a generic laptop but it had no OS. A docking station ejected out of the right side just like a CD tray and a BB10 device could be slotted in, running the "laptop". The sketches were quite fascinating and the idea intriguing.
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    Can I play hard-core games on the Z10? C'mon!
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