Heins Says “Wait for First Big Security Flaw” For Enterprise Market to Turn Back to B

[missing_K-W]

There is just so much truth to this.....There is a complete utter disregard for security, certainly in the consumer mindset. This is causing great concerns for IT administrators. A definite ticking time bomb.

Heins Says “Wait for First Big Security Flaw” For Enterprise Market to Turn Back to BlackBerry - BerryReview

[Shlooky]

I disagree. Security is always the number one concern for any corporation, which is why their Exchange environment is most likely behind firewalls and NIDS.

[missing_K-W]

Originally Posted by Shlooky

I disagree. Security is always the number one concern for any corporation, which is why their Exchange environment is most likely behind firewalls and NIDS.

I am referring to how byod is a ticking time bomb for the enterprise. The major threats that we fail to realize to the enterprise are from those talented enough to bring down satellites etc...BES is the best current defense against these threats. Currently there is a trend where the byod movement is holding the upper hand in certain organizations over IT administrators. All is takes is a major security breach, for the pendulum to swing back in RIM's favor

[Economist101]

Originally Posted by missing_K-W

I am referring to how byod is a ticking time bomb for the enterprise.

It's been ticking for a while now, so long that people are starting to think the bomb might be a dud. At any rate, one way to not inspire investor confidence is to tell people that you'll reclaim your place in enterprise, not after you release better devices, but rather after a catastrophic IT event.

[VeGiTo]

Originally Posted by Economist101

It's been ticking for a while now, so long that people are starting to think the bomb might be a dud. At any rate, one way to not inspire investor confidence is to tell people that you'll reclaim your place in enterprise, not after you release better devices, but rather after a catastrophic IT event.

They can't be doing both? Look up "false dichotomy".

Even the same article says they are recapturing the consumerization trend with BB10 while at the same time preparing for a cataclysmic IT event on iOS/Android devices.

[missing_K-W]

Originally Posted by Economist101

It's been ticking for a while now, so long that people are starting to think the bomb might be a dud. At any rate, one way to not inspire investor confidence is to tell people that you'll reclaim your place in enterprise, not after you release better devices, but rather after a catastrophic IT event.

When the collective mindset perceives the threat as a dud...This is where predators tend to pose the greatest threat. Hein's is referring to concerns of CIO's that see looming threats. CIO's are the insiders after all We unfortunately only need to look at examples throughout history to see this as the case. Sad but true.

[scalemaster34]

Originally Posted by missing_K-W

There is just so much truth to this.....There is a complete utter disregard for security, certainly in the consumer mindset. This is causing great concerns for IT administrators. A definite ticking time bomb.

Heins Says “Wait for First Big Security Flaw” For Enterprise Market to Turn Back to BlackBerry - BerryReview

Both Android and Apple have tighten security on their devices with each new OS version as well as allowed for more control for IT administrators. I agree that BB is the best at Security and that RIM needs to do more to promote the Security that their devices provide for Enterprise and Consumers. But don't be fooled into believing that Apple and Android are not working towards devices that are more Enterprise friendly.

[Thunderbuck]

Originally Posted by scalemaster34

Both Android and Apple have tighten security on their devices with each new OS version as well as allowed for more control for IT administrators. I agree that BB is the best at Security and that RIM needs to do more to promote the Security that their devices provide for Enterprise and Consumers. But don't be fooled into believing that Apple and Android are not working towards devices that are more Enterprise friendly.

I'm inclined to agree. I'd say it's also poor strategy to count on your rivals' failure. That's the kind of hubris that got RIM to where it is now.

I can live with the odd verbal miscue, but I hope he wasn't serious.

[sinsin07]

There is no turning back from BYOD. Security enhancements will only increase as Apple/Google release new OSes. There is money to be had. How many CEOs, CIOs, CTOs and CFOs have Macs and iPhones beside a Corporate Blackberry. If you work in the field you would know they are issued Blackberries but they buy iPhone/Android. The devices are just more consumer friendly.

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[missing_K-W]

Originally Posted by scalemaster34

Both Android and Apple have tighten security on their devices with each new OS version as well as allowed for more control for IT administrators. I agree that BB is the best at Security and that RIM needs to do more to promote the Security that their devices provide for Enterprise and Consumers. But don't be fooled into believing that Apple and Android are not working towards devices that are more Enterprise friendly.

This is the topic of much debate, and the result of a multitude of very lengthy threads on CB, so I'll stick the the original post. Hein's is referring to conversations with CIO's. So unless anyone here is a CIO, I'll hold back to threads with the above as the primary topic.

[mjs416]

In a previous discussion about byod and enterprise - it was mentioned how most IT departments (often with few IT people) are forcing the employee's to manage their devices. Most people cant even find their car keys in the morning much less manage their cell phone at an enteprise level. One need look no further than the extent that malware runs rampant in the android OS to see that people are ridiculously careless.

[missing_K-W]

Originally Posted by sinsin07

There is no turning back from BYOD. Security enhancements will only increase as Apple/Google release new OSes. There is money to be had. How many CEOs, CIOs, CTOs and CFOs have Macs and iPhones beside a Corporate Blackberry. If you work in the field you would know they are issued Blackberries but they buy iPhone/Android. The devices are just more consumer friendly.

This is where Mobile Fusion should have a great opportunity to shine as well as other Enterprise offerings from RIM. There are a multitude of increased and decreased security concerns within a given organization. For example the CEO, requires a very different degree of security then a field technician within a given organization . This is an example of what Hein's and RIM are leaning towards.

RIM is adapting to this. Multiple OS management is something RIM has had is development for sometime....RIM doesn't need the entire pie, just a couple slices

[bbpandy]

I've been saying that for a while now. What they need is a High Profile, well spread trojan/virus (most likely on Android) and Execs will be more likely to listen to their CIOs again. The amount of enterprise security breaches have been rapidly increasing over the last few years. The anual number of attacks doubled in 2009, and then again in 2010. Meanwhile 2011 made those years look small in camparison, with a huge increase of breaches (though accual amount of data lost accually went down)

I have heard it said that 2011 was "the year of the security breach".....I don't like that term because it implies that it was a one off....so far nothing I have seen indictates that 2012 will be better, infact everything is pointing towards an even worse year then 2011

[sinsin07]

Originally Posted by missing_K-W

This is where Mobile Fusion should have a great opportunity to shine as well as other Enterprise offerings from RIM. There are a multitude of increased and decreased security concerns within a given organization. For example the CEO, requires a very different degree of security then a field technician within a given organization . This is an example of what Hein's and RIM are leaning towards.

RIM is adapting to this. Multiple OS management is something RIM has had is development for sometime....RIM doesn't need the entire pie, just a couple slices

Serious enterprises have already been managing BB devices without RIM, it's called Boxtone. Also does Android and iOS.

[missing_K-W]

Originally Posted by sinsin07

Serious enterprises have already been managing BB devices without RIM, it's called Boxtone. Also does Android and iOS.

RIM is currently the only company that offers a fully integrated solution and beginning soon RIM 2.0 is going to release their next generation of Enterprise management solutions ...This is what RIM is pushing for the future. Boxtone is a competitor to a division of RIM...RIM has aligned to compete with Boxtone, Good etc. Should be an interesting next two years to see how these companies compete with RIM