Explaining the playbook advantage - Page 2

dentynefire · #16 02-11-2012, 06:17 PM

@CrackedBarry

Let me tell you what I think,

Regarding controlling an app via phone to tablet, Bridge will allow everything to be controlled not just on a per app basis, its global. Plus the Open On feature is better than IOS since you don't have to start watching a movie on say an iPad then press a button to start airplay. Open on pushes the media to the right device at the start. It isn't mirroring.

You can't use your IOS device or Android phone to type on another device (tablet) without an app that controls just the app it was designed for. RIM wins here because you will be able to use the phone as a remote for every app. Thats fully baked into the OS!

Better integration between devices, or More devices?

Controlling household robots? Well if the roomba was QNX based it might be nice

Aside from vacuums, having an advantage doesn't suddenly create a disadvantage. Options are good yes? As far as niche markets go, isn't that why there are so many apps and in many different categories?

Reboots a thing of the past, we'll see. But yes not an advantage as others have said. I will point out that you neglected to include Tablet OS along with Android and IOS as having that ability.

QNX wasn't designed for what RIM is using it for. Since it was created before people had mobile phones?$#@! Fact is as an OS QNX does what it does well enough that extremely large companies use and depend on it for the most critical of jobs on Earth or above it. What RIM does with it is put it in the hands of ordinary people. QNX doesn't need to apologize to you for being awesome. Yes time WILL tell...

Further to what the OP stated about the separation of OS and user data, Linux and I'm not sure about QNX as a default gives users a home partition which is separate from the OS. You can format the OS partition and install a different one while keeping all your data aside from any OS modifications obviously. PB only offers wipe OS which I'm pretty sure formats the entire "disc". Its one of my favorite things since I know what files I've changed...I'd like to see the same w/QNX - a home/user partition.

scalemaster34 · #17 02-11-2012, 08:19 PM

We kind of take it for granted.... But do you think that somewhere at RIM there is a department where they take Android and Apple devices and test them. It seems like these guys at RIM believe they have invented the wheel or something??

trelawrence · #18 02-11-2012, 08:36 PM

Do some of you kinda almost see why using one mobile device to control another may not be considered a marketable advantage?

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Oniberry · #19 02-11-2012, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by trelawrence

Do some of you kinda almost see why using one mobile device to control another may not be considered a marketable advantage?

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It's not needed, but a nice addition. It gives BB owners who purchase a BB an added benefit. I am sure there are similar benefits to owning an Android Tablet/device or an iOS phone/pad.

dentynefire · #20 02-12-2012, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by scalemaster34

We kind of take it for granted.... But do you think that somewhere at RIM there is a department where they take Android and Apple devices and test them. It seems like these guys at RIM believe they have invented the wheel or something??

I like what I'm seeing with OS2 + Bridge. Seems like a much more elegant solution than using a handful of apps if that is what you're talking about. And like another poster alluded to with multiple QNX based devices connected via WIFI or Bluetooth sync/sharing will be seamless like in the QNX car exhibit that won best of at the last CES.

What do you have against that anyway?

trelawrence · #21 02-12-2012, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Oniberry

It's not needed, but a nice addition. It gives BB owners who purchase a BB an added benefit. I am sure there are similar benefits to owning an Android Tablet/device or an iOS phone/pad.

I wouldn't argue with that. It is a nice addition, and I like the added benefit angle.

Oniberry · #22 02-12-2012, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by anthogag

It is needed and a marketable feature, especially for people making presentations. Ex. you can control the presentation from a distance and if something comes-up during the presentation you can use your phone to...Ex. show an extra picture, go to a website,

The PB can be used by a person with a non-BB device. Right? I mean, a Samsung Galaxy owner could go and buy a PB. The PB would still work? Right?

You need to start reading posts.

kbz1960 · #23 02-12-2012, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Oniberry

The PB can be used by a person with a non-BB device. Right? I mean, a Samsung Galaxy owner could go and buy a PB. The PB would still work? Right?

You need to start reading posts.

Of couse they can. Just won't be able to control it with their phone. Otherwise it works like any other tablet they may choose to own. Unless android or iOS also have this if you either phone. How about if I buy an android or ipad. Can I contoll it with my bb?

Oniberry · #24 02-12-2012, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by kbz1960

Of couse they can. Just won't be able to control it with their phone. Otherwise it works like any other tablet they may choose to own. Unless android or iOS also have this if you either phone. How about if I buy an android or ipad. Can I contoll it with my bb?

Thanks for the insightful wisdom. That isn't what was being discussed.

Again, read the post.

missing_K-W · #25 02-12-2012, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CrackedBarry

Well, if you're talking about stuff like using your phone to control and app on your tablet, iOS also has that. For example you can use an iPhone as a control pad for ipad games. I can transfer files wirelessly between my Android devices, or use one of them as a remote.

We'll see a lot more integration between devices that's true, but it's not a Playbook advantage like the poster suggested.

However, if you want to educate people on how to use their Playbooks to control their household robots, good luck marketing to that particular niche.

The point we were raising in regards to the OP was that reboots are really a thing of the past, at least on iOS and Android.

And yes, while QNX has an interesting architecture, there is a reason why other operating systems have moved away from micro kernels. (Like the old Windows Mobile for example) they have their disadvantages as well as some advantages, and a micro kernel by itself is far from an advantage. One could in fact make the argument that QNX really wasn't built or designed for what RIM is using it for. There is a big difference between a relatively simple task like controlling a valve in a pipeline or a traffic signal, and controlling a whole computer, like mobile devices increasingly are. Time will tell whether RIM chose the right tool for the job.

What you are describing is a simple software interaction utilizing API's.

QNX unlike iOS,Android &WP7 supports Distributed Multi Processing, which QNX holds patents for their version of DMP call Transparent Multi Processing. This protocol module (known as qnet) links the microkernels across the network together, so that operating system services are accessed using exactly the same mechanism without regard to the computer node on which they reside.

DMP allows QNX to view 2+ separate devices as being on the same network. Not simply apps. But the ENTIRE OS.....We are going to have software capabilities with QNX BB's that we have never seen before, or will see on other devices.