[CatlinFD]

Nokia Lumia 900 Camera Extension app previewed in Hong Kong (video) - Engadget

Look at this! No doubt inspired by BB10 Timeline Lens.

First that 3rd party iPhone keyboard app, now this.

[kbz1960]

It's a copycat world. But really it isn't a RIM app its made by someone else and licensed to use.

[Tre Lawrence]

Nokia Lumia 900 Camera Extension app previewed in Hong Kong (video) - Engadget

Look at this! No doubt inspired by BB10 Timeline Lens.

First that 3rd party iPhone keyboard app, now this.

I think a couple people have pointed out that the camera hing has been seen in several iterations prior to RIM showing their version.

[berryjunkie]

I hope RIM drops BB10 before too many of it's features get ripped off.
BB10 has a lot of cool/useful things new to the industry, and to BB. It would be nice for the media (and techies) to prop it.
I can already smell the air surrounding the keypad when BB10 drops.

media: "BB10 took a page from iSheep with the keypad, blah, blah"
From what I've seen, BB10 won't raise the bar....it will freakin create a new one !!!!

[Superfly_FR]

It's been discussed already in another thread.
Read my thoughts here : http://forums.crackberry.com/general...2/#post7408611

[Doc Z]

No surprise that other companies are pushing out similar products faster than RIM. They're just too slow to keep up with everyone else.

[tedd_jr]

I know its probably not ready for release but this is one of the reasons i wished that RIM would have released BB10 on the playbook first; to pseudo back up their big talk and fancy slideshows. Every new feature they have shown is reworked & licensed api's (SwiftKey/Scalado) so regardless of the "me, first" video i think any company can purchase a license and bring the same features to their phone. I just hope RIM has some in house tech/secret features much like the keyboard and camera that will wow the masses too.

[black.rhino]

RIM has been in a pickle with keeping shareholders and users interested while they wait for BB10. Unfortunately this means that anything they show will be well established on other OSes by the time they bring their device to the market. As soon as I saw the BB10 keyboard, I thought "That will be working on android within a month". There is no feature that they can come out with that will be exclusive for more than around 6 months, so why show off your features that far ahead of time?

BB10 HAS to have new features only announced at launch.

[whitbags]

So they show cased features from 3rd party developers that are already available elsewhere.

There will be plenty of stuff developed by RIM for BB10 they are keeping hidden.

[diegonei]

Where is the news about this?

Apple sucked all the good ideas from BlackBerry into iOS. Then Android copied iOS. They both added new stuff to their platforms and that made RIM look worse than it really was.

And it's bound to happen again and again.

[kill_9]

I hope RIM drops BB10 before too many of it's features get ripped off. BB10 has a lot of cool/useful things new to the industry, and to BB.

Research In Motion has a habit of delivering a day late. At the rate the BlackBerry 10 smartphone release is being handled we can expect "BlackBerry Bankruptcy" to be in the works with the same trite "awesome feature X, Y and Z coming soon." Like the Roman Empire, Research In Motion was not built in a single day, but the former collapsed rather quickly once the rot set into the empire's ruling class. There is the infamous Battle of Waterloo to be considered as well. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it and with the same consequences.

[avt123]

I think a couple people have pointed out that the camera hing has been seen in several iterations prior to RIM showing their version.

Stop, everyone is copying RIM and its unreleased and unproven mobile OS and you know it!

[tmelon]

If this Nokia device releases before BB10 then the public perception will be that RIM is copying them.


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[redk]

This is one of the reasons RIM only showed a few feautures. Everything else they are keeping secret till launch.

[Tre Lawrence]

Stop, everyone is copying RIM and its unreleased and unproven mobile OS and you know it!

That is definitely it!

This is one of the reasons RIM only showed a few feautures. Everything else they are keeping secret till launch.

LOL. No comment.

[VanCity778]

This example is exactly why i said RIM should release BB10 to the world without giving us a little taste. It's a reason why Apple is so successful. Everything is kept quiet till it launches. On the other hand, private companies are just like world governments. I'm sure every company has some spies walking among them.

[morlock_man]

They've definitely got a few things hidden away. There are too many cloud oriented features that QNX falls right into for them not to make use of them.

I think the only reason that they'd show off the keyboard and the camera is because they knew they'd be copied, most likely poorly, but blatantly.

[Superfly_FR]

(again) Please remember this feature is NOT the same than the one demoed by RIM. Basically, RIM's feature is founded on a 5-6 sec HD video recording (@30 fps eq. around 150 images) while Samsung's is based on 5 pictures. See the nuance ?

Edited: this is misleading info see bellow post #22. Sry for that.

[n8ter#AC]

Nokia Lumia 900 Camera Extension app previewed in Hong Kong (video) - Engadget

Look at this! No doubt inspired by BB10 Timeline Lens.

First that 3rd party iPhone keyboard app, now this.

HTC Amaze Camera Smart Phone | Our Most Advanced Camera on a Phone | T-Mobile

Capture the moment — in a flash

Whether you’re snapping photos or shooting stunning 1080p HD video, capturing and sharing with this smartphone is a snap. With the dedicated Instant On button, your camera is ready to start taking photos or shooting video with just a touch.

SmartShot™ - takes 5 photos and compiles the best parts to create one perfect shot.

BurstShot™ - capture 5 consecutive shots with just one click, so you never miss the action.

SweepShot™ panorama - take ultrawide shots then sweep in any direction.

ClearShot™ HDR - see crystal clear detail even when shooting in mixed or direct light.

Perfect Pics™ - analyzes & scores your photos then groups the best ones for easy sharing!

HTC Amaze 4G - Full phone specifications

Announced: 2011, September

Status: Available. Released 2011, October

These "OMG they copied RIM" B.S. coming from clueless people trolling for attention is getting a tad bit out of control these days.

[n8ter#AC]

(again) Please remember this feature is NOT the same than the one demoed by RIM. Basically, RIM's feature is founded on a 5-6 secs HD video recording (@30 fps eq. around 150 images) while Samsung's is based on 5 pictures. See the nuance ?

Yes, what I see is the 1080p image is half the size of an image from an 8MP camera and there are camera coming out at 12-16MB nevermind there's the tech for 4k Video Capture at 60FPS that will be going into production later this year, IIRC. Nevermind the quality of the image is wholly dependent on the quality of the video camera on the phone (which may be phenomenal, I don't have one so I'd have to take someone's opinion with a grain of salt on that aspect).

I will take the 8MP image over the 1080p "snapshot" any day. It gives me more flexibility. Anyone who cares that much about image quality from a smartphone will know how to use a decent image editing package (Photoshop, GIMP, etc.).

But that doesn't really matter. It's more of a gimmick feature since most high end smartphones with famed cameras (HTC Amaze, GSII/III, iPhone 4[S], HTC Titan) take pictures so good that you don't need that, anyways.

While it's nice to argue semantics and technicalities (and you're right on the technicality), I think the premise of the OP is a bit on target. The implementation differs, but the goals are similar. I still don't want 1080p size images, though. They're useless. People complain a ton about the SkyDrive camera roll backup in WP7 because it resizes the images when you upload them to Social Networks or SkyDrive. I certainly don't want them coming out of the camera at that size.

[brucep1]

HTC Amaze Camera Smart Phone | Our Most Advanced Camera on a Phone | T-Mobile



HTC Amaze 4G - Full phone specifications



These "OMG they copied RIM" B.S. coming from clueless people trolling for attention is getting a tad bit out of control these days.

Any idea how this feature compares to the feature just announced at Blackberry jam?

[Superfly_FR]

Yes, what I see is the 1080p image is half the size of an image from an 8MP camera and there are camera coming out at 12-16MB nevermind there's the tech for 4k Video Capture at 60FPS that will be going into production later this year, IIRC. Nevermind the quality of the image is wholly dependent on the quality of the video camera on the phone (which may be phenomenal, I don't have one so I'd have to take someone's opinion with a grain of salt on that aspect).

I will take the 8MP image over the 1080p "snapshot" any day. It gives me more flexibility. Anyone who cares that much about image quality from a smartphone will know how to use a decent image editing package (Photoshop, GIMP, etc.).

But that doesn't really matter. It's more of a gimmick feature since most high end smartphones with famed cameras (HTC Amaze, GSII/III, iPhone 4[S], HTC Titan) take pictures so good that you don't need that, anyways.

While it's nice to argue semantics and technicalities (and you're right on the technicality), I think the premise of the OP is a bit on target. The implementation differs, but the goals are similar. I still don't want 1080p size images, though. They're useless. People complain a ton about the SkyDrive camera roll backup in WP7 because it resizes the images when you upload them to Social Networks or SkyDrive. I certainly don't want them coming out of the camera at that size.

Thanks for these appropriate tech suggestions. They made me wonder if I wasn't wrong ... which seems to be the case. No video here, but a fast burst mode, if I refer to Scalado's (limited) explanations :

Scalado™ SpeedTags makes it possible to run on the fly processing of a burst sequence of images to, for example, determine which image is the best, or zoom in to the same image detail at different points in time.
The camera is lying - the image displayed in the viewfinder, and the JPEG image actually captured when the button is pressed are not the same. Scalado™ SpeedTags Technology allows the viewfinder to be based on the actual JPEG image, and thus eliminates all the delays such as shutter / display lag of the captured image.
When in burst mode, the framework may continually store a sequence of images in the background. Including images from before, and after, the actual capture moment.

My bad, sorry for the misleading info.
Yet, when I compare Scaldo's and RIM's demos with Nokia's, I can't miss the lag and the non-fluid transition evidence ... just have a look.

Scalado
[YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5EcUjwLr9k[/YT]

against Nokia
[YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNv-BpMDAi0[/YT]

[texazzpete]

Where is the news about this?

Apple sucked all the good ideas from BlackBerry into iOS. Then Android copied iOS. They both added new stuff to their platforms and that made RIM look worse than it really was.

And it's bound to happen again and again.

Yes, they both added QUALITY APPS and GAMES and that made RIM look worse than it really was?!

[kbz1960]

Yes, they both added QUALITY APPS and GAMES and that made RIM look worse than it really was?!

No they didn't. Developers did.

[jd914]

Same could be said about RIM's new virtual "predictive" keyboard which was licensed from Swiftkey. Android devices have been using this keyboard for a while and is pretty popular. Swipe left to right to erase words is clearly a give away.