- 01-10-13, 04:14 PM #176
Comparing their Q4 sales with Q2 when you have Q3 figures unfortunately does not reflect well on your objectivity.
- 01-10-13, 04:32 PM #178
Re: Could BlackBerry 10 kill Windows Phone?
- 01-10-13, 04:39 PM #180
This basically says what I thought - it's increasing its traction compared to previous Windows Phones and actually being sought out in some cases. Even if it isn't a huge leap, it's a marked improvement
- 01-12-13, 04:24 PM #181
BlackBerry 10 and Windows Phone to THRIVE Together IMO...
BlackBerry 10 "WILL" be the best phone ever released to date once it gets launched on January 30, 2013. It will be based on one of the best OS's.
RIM only needs to market it properly. Though what I would rather see is BlackBerry 10 and Windows Phone both side by side strip away market share from both Apple and Google. Apple because they are bloody arrogant and Google because they think they can bully everybody.
Go RIM Go.
- 01-13-13, 04:19 PM #182
I don't think we need BB10 in order to kill Windows Phone, it is killing itself. Microsoft has never been able to create a decent mobile OS despite they have tried and tried for over 10 years. Windows Phone is a good feature phone but hardly a good and versatile smart phone OS. BB10 will be OS number three without much effort and Windows Phone will struggle with one digit market shares, worse than Windows Mobile. I think competition is good and that's why we don't need Microsoft.
- 01-13-13, 06:00 PM #183
I want to agree with those who say that WP8 being successful is a good thing and that RIM does not need to kill WP8 to be successful themselves. Sales of smartphones around the world are growing, and both could garner some share from the big 2 and they would never miss it.
Nokia is not the only vendor selling WP and I read reports yesterday that WP was selling about 1 million phones a week, based on quarterly sales of over 13 million phones. That's not bad.
- CrackBerry Abuser
01-14-13, 03:55 AM #185
- 113 Posts
"Could BlackBerry 10 kill Windows Phone?"
No. Microsoft can't be killed. Ever. They will succeed at the end, as they always do.
On the 30th we have 4 great and successful players in the game. And i like that.
There is no need for war and resentment.
- 01-14-13, 04:09 AM #186
- CrackBerry Abuser
01-14-13, 04:51 AM #187
- 406 Posts
It would be hard to imagine RIM not being able to move 4.4 million BlackBerry 10 phones and 10 million plus total phones in Q1. So while I expect sales to drop of BB 7 from the 6.9 million they sold in Q3, I'd say they can still easily move 5 plus million units in Q1 and all indicators thus far for BlackBerry 10 point to strong demand.
So while I do not think that RIM will kill off Windows Mobile, Microsoft can afford to stay in the game, I don't think that 10 million across 4 or 5 OEM partners in the busiest quarter of the year is anything that RIM really needs to worry about. RIM will hold it's 3rd place position by a comfortable margin once BB 10 enters the market. There is room for 4 players though so everyone can be happy with their devices.
- 01-14-13, 05:49 AM #188
This gets me thinking? RIM will sell well with BB10, All indications are pointing that way. People like to talk about who RIM will steal market share from. No doubt Android, some ios. But how many phones would wp8 have sold if BB10 were in the market last quarter?
- 01-14-13, 07:46 AM #189
- 01-14-13, 08:43 AM #191
If RIM continues to price their devices at a premium, I don't see it reaching those numbers. There are a lot of people here that are really excited about BB10, and a number of people I know that have BB are also exited. But everyone I have asked, has said that their company is not ready for BB10 yet. I think a lot of company's are taking a wait and see attitude before committing resources to upgrade their networks to support BB10 devices. So many existing potential customers may not be able to buy immediately.
The average consumer isn't buying the premium devices, they are buying either new mid grade devices or older devices that have been marketed down. Or new WP8 devices that are being subsided by MS. As someone who works with a carrier, the Premium Devices get them in the door but most leave with a device that was either free on contract or was less that a $100 on contract.
- 01-14-13, 08:51 AM #192
Pricing is a tricky beast. If they price too high, they'll price themselves out of the market. If they price too low, people will think it's cheap and dismiss it as junk. I've actually raised product pricing in the past (slightly) and had it sell substantially better because it was perceived as more premium and less bargain basement.
I think RIM would be foolish to try and price (at least right now) like iPhone 5 or Samsung Galaxy. They aren't that premium of a brand. On the other hand, they're still way more 'premium' than - say Huawei or LG. They can likely price similarly to (or a bit better than) Nokia and HTC.
- CrackBerry Addict
01-14-13, 02:18 PM #196
- 584 Posts
Research in Motion (RIM) has been practically written off by many watching the smartphone space, but that may be premature with BlackBerry 10 coming to market. RIM is a big underdog to be sure but don't count them out yet. It has Windows Phone firmly in its sight.
BlackBerry 10: The underdog is coming after Windows Phone | ZDNet
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