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12-30-2011, 01:06 PM
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Mobile devices: Five predictions for 2012 | Mobile - CNET News
"OUCH" pretty harsh article where it's stating that RIM is pumping money into the PlayBook in order to Bridge in to BB10 but in the end it won't be enough.
i should add that i am happy PB owner and 9900 owner and would like to see RIM's glory's day return...
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12-30-2011, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by thelink74  | Be careful outlander(In my best Clint Eastwood Spaghetti Western voice).. Folks around these parts don't want to hear any talk about what's being said out there in the real world.
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12-30-2011, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ADozenEggs@aol.com Be careful outlander(In my best Clint Eastwood Spaghetti Western voice).. Folks around these parts don't want to hear any talk about what's being said out there in the real world. | Its not that we dont care, we do care about the Playbook and everything to do with it, in this forum we make everyones usage of the PB a good one, discuss things to even better the PB experience.... but we dont care about market politics and swayed agendas and predictions of self-proclaimed prophets of the tech world and their moronic writeups..... just enjoy the PB let the corporate gurus and their cohorts figure out the crap outside, besides it will do no good discussing some biased reports- who is gonna take note, no one. So, I for one would invest my time learning more about the PB and helping those who are trying to figure out more about this cool device.
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12-30-2011, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by anindoc Its not that we dont care, we do care about the Playbook and everything to do with it, in this forum we make everyones usage of the PB a good one, discuss things to even better the PB experience.... but we dont care about market politics and swayed agendas and predictions of self-proclaimed prophets of the tech world and their moronic writeups..... just enjoy the PB let the corporate gurus and their cohorts figure out the crap outside, besides it will do no good discussing some biased reports- who is gonna take note, no one. So, I for one would invest my time learning more about the PB and helping those who are trying to figure out more about this cool device. | If you don't care, then don't post in the thread. These are opinion articles and they don't claim to be prophets.
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12-30-2011, 01:42 PM
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I can understand why analysts would be making this call. I don't agree, personally, but I do understand it.
RIM has had a lot of "issues" this year. With the management review that's currently underway, I suspect there will be a lot of hard questions to answer by the end of January.
The odds are good there will be some changes announced.
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12-30-2011, 02:19 PM
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Yes, be careful; fanactical BB fans here rabidly attack anyone who voices even mild criticism of the Playbook and its maker  Alas, pretending to believe the Playbook is perfect and vastly superior to anything else out there is not going to change the realities. In fact, RIM's loyal fan base may have contributed to the problem, making it easier for RIM to bury its corporate head in the sand and pretend all was well with the phone business, the tablet business and everything else. Now, it's gotten to the point that C/NET and just about everyone else (except for those fans) views RIM as sinking and a takeover target. The former is premature--lots of things could happen to reverse RIM's fortunes again--but, the latter is definitely true; with the stock price so depressed, Amazon and others are lusting after RIM's valuable patent portfolio. Well, we'll see...
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12-30-2011, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by anindoc Its not that we dont care, we do care about the Playbook and everything to do with it, in this forum we make everyones usage of the PB a good one, discuss things to even better the PB experience.... but we dont care about market politics and swayed agendas and predictions of self-proclaimed prophets of the tech world and their moronic writeups..... just enjoy the PB let the corporate gurus and their cohorts figure out the crap outside, besides it will do no good discussing some biased reports- who is gonna take note, no one. So, I for one would invest my time learning more about the PB and helping those who are trying to figure out more about this cool device. | You may have inadvertently proved my point. I didn't say no cared. I said no one wants to "hear" anything about the PB or RIM, seemingly, that doesn't exhalt the greatness of the product. Is criticism derived from an honest intention not allowed?
There's also something missing that I think you don't understand. Some us actually are interested in discussing the not only the device itself, but what the reviewers(good and bad) have to say about the PB and it's maker R.I.M. Maybe there are some analytical folks here who are interested having an open discussion about what theyre reading/hearing.
Some of use actually find this interesting.
Kinda like when people slow down on the freeway to stare at a car wreck(Disclaimer: No comparison to PB, R.I.M or it's CEOs intended.)
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If thats not a discussion you care to partake in that's fine. But, I would like to think, that discussing it is also fine. I don't believe ANYONE here is making an attempt to personally offend anyone. But R.I.M and the PB are making the news on a daily basis.
The forum says Playbook not "Playbook - But only if you have great things to say."
I have 3 PBs by the way.
Merry New Year!
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12-30-2011, 02:25 PM
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find the last sentence most interesting
"I also anticipate at least one more TouchPad-like fire sale, when one of the new tablets inevitably stumbles out of the gate"
Have we already seen this now with the prices of Playbooks been reduced/slashed globally
This could be the saviour of the playbook if RIM continue to get behind it over the next couple of quaters and make good on the current OS dates.
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12-30-2011, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by thelink74 | It will be interesting to see what the Playbook firesale does for it. I was a BB user but went to Apple a while back, but I just picked up the Playbook for $200 (already have the ipad2). I am happy with it so far and bet that lots of people are taking advantage of these prices. The challenge for RIM is to figure out how to capitalize on new and returning users. Apple figured out long ago how to make their customers stay loyal across devices and RIM needs to do the same. These late 2012 software releases aren't helping things.
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12-30-2011, 02:44 PM
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I'd say that the firesale is here in the UK , its not quite Touchpad-esque pricing but the difference is that for £100 more folk are buying into a Platform that RIM are committed to and not like the Touchpad which had been scrapped.
It seems to me from reading other forums that those people who have picked up a Playbook because of the sale are actually surprisingly impressed with it, if RIM can nail the OS 2.0 launch and get some more big names on board like Zinio and Skype then I think it looks better for the Playbook, people are finally getting one in their hand to try instead of relying on reviews and heresay.
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12-30-2011, 02:54 PM
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I think I hear a padlock approaching in the distance, getting ready to close this thread...
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12-30-2011, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Unsure2 The former is premature.. | Not necessarily. The numbers are shrinking. That part, a least, undeniable. The Toronto paper, just this morn. Said that they've dropped to roughly a 6% share of the market in the U.S. market. And their cash has dropped from $3B+ to about $1.5B. Mathematically, those are declining numbers.
They need to regroup and re-strategize. Maybe scale back some, and take a sabbatical on the U.S. consumer market. I think they need to untether the PB from their phones and make it a stand alone tablet just like everyone else does, while still supporting those who do use their phones as well. Add something that makes "tethering" a perk as opposed to a requirement.
RE the phones. BB10 is slated for the end of the year. That's forever in technology terms. They should be banking on QNX and getting the More PBs into the hands of consumers who don't use their phone(Like me.) but still find the PB to be an attractive product.
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12-30-2011, 02:56 PM
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12-30-2011, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ADozenEggs@aol.com Not necessarily. The numbers are shrinking. That part, a least, undeniable. The Toronto paper, just this morn. Said that they've dropped to roughly a 6% share of the market in the U.S. market. And their cash has dropped from $3B+ to about $1.5B. Mathematically, those are declining numbers.
They need to regroup and re-strategize. Maybe scale back some, and take a sabbatical on the U.S. consumer market. I think they need to untether the PB from their phones and make it a stand alone tablet just like everyone else does, while still supporting those who do use their phones as well. Add something that makes "tethering" a perk as opposed to a requirement.
RE the phones. BB10 is slated for the end of the year. That's forever in technology terms. They should be banking on QNX and getting the More PBs into the hands of consumers who don't use their phone(Like me.) but still find the PB to be an attractive product. | +1 It seems to me that the US market isn't where RIM should be focusing now, they're still a big fish in Europe and the Middle East and should look to expand in India and China, thats where the growth is going to be.
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12-30-2011, 03:07 PM
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YESSS! Moved to rumors! BYYEEE!
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