- 12-03-12, 11:37 AM #76
Lol how in the world did chrome on the Galaxy Nexus beat chrome on the nexus 4 so badly? I also had the Galaxy Nexus. Wasn't a fan of chrome on it either.
May I ask, which version of Android are you running? Is it a ROM?
Our screen shots combined really kill the "hardware will make it faster" argument Lol
- 12-03-12, 12:20 PM #77
- 12-03-12, 12:46 PM #79
Apparently the PlayBook 4G has some of the best Sunspider benchmarks for mobile.
If they can have that on the PlayBook. I'm hoping for just as good if not better on B
- 12-03-12, 02:11 PM #81
- 12-04-12, 02:44 PM #82
BB10 html5 score
Those tests were stupidly written and not take advantage of various webgl techniques that can draw vastly more polygons --- which the Playbook/BB10 web browser can do.
Jeff Muizelaar: Drawing Sprites: Canvas 2D vs. WebGL
- 12-04-12, 02:51 PM #83
- 12-04-12, 02:59 PM #85
- 12-04-12, 03:30 PM #87
1. RIM claims that BB10 browser is the most html5 compliant, even across desktop browsers
2. Since this is such a bold claim, of course I want to put it to the test and looked for "html5 test" sites to try.
3. Your favorite browser did not fare so well on certain html5 tests.
4. You argue that the tests should have been written another way as a way of explaining away #3.
Honestly man, don't you see the absurdity of #4?
- 12-04-12, 03:36 PM #88
I can randomly select Apple's HTML5 test and declare that NONE of the non-safari browser has any sort of HTML5 features --- because Apple kept reminding me that the only browser that runs their HTML5 test is the safari browser.
Andrew4life ran the webgl version of the fishIE test and got black boxes (because of the texture size issue), but also got 10x more frame rate.
BB10 html5 score
Also we are talking about difference in GPU speed --- which the OMAP4 chips will be vastly slower than your Galaxy S3 which uses 4 cores of Mali 400 GPU. One core of slow SGX540 vs. 4 faster cores of Mali 400 GPU. Even all things being equal and you put android inside the Playbook or the dev alpha --- your galaxy S3 would still have 4-5x more frame rate.
- 12-04-12, 03:50 PM #91
- 12-04-12, 04:58 PM #94
But that line of discussion is moot because Sith_Apprentice already posted the results of these tests that you cited in another thread for the dev alpha b and the results came out pretty good.
- 12-04-12, 05:03 PM #95
Sorry to say, but your webGL argument doesn't hold much water either. The whole point of these benchmarks was to compare devices. If Blackberry is the only device that can run the test, there's no comparison possible. If you want to brag that BB10 has WebGL support, then super...but don't present it as a more valid comparison.
- 12-04-12, 05:04 PM #96
Engadget did a review of the LTE Playbook which ran full speed at 1.5 GHz with the older 2.01 OS and browser --- and got a better sunspider score than both of you.
BlackBerry PlayBook 4G LTE hands-on
If it is underclocked down to 1 GHz, then at 1.5 GHz it would be at about 1000 ms for sunspider.
- 12-04-12, 05:07 PM #97
Re: CNET : BlackBerry 10 browser 'beats every desktop browser'
"Pretty good" is debatable. Bear in mind that the claim is that it beats every browser, but in fact it couldn't do two of the tests that I showed in the video. With such a bold claim, I expect a much higher standard.
- 12-04-12, 05:26 PM #98
- BB10 browser can handle many of the new web technologies, HTML5 and WebGL namely. We can discuss the JS drawing perfs forever, but what is true is that developers will rely on the most efficient available technology for the device, while it will still be able to support the other (ouch, I hope this is understandable - sry, in a hurry here).
- Dev Alpha is a prototype that must be understood like a "physical BB10 emulation device" and not like a preview of London. Performance test can't reflect what London will be (this seems to be the hardest part to understand for some).
So, I could start a WebGL or Canvas thread, but ... I believe it'll turn again in a performance-centric contest, and that's just irrelevant.
My bad anyway, I should have placed theses threads in a more technical section.
Wasn't 100% sure about the Web Platform Stack, so I asked Adam Stanley (RIM Team lead, BlackBerry HTML5/AIR developer relations) some explanations.
He gave me two interesting answers:
2. Adopting WebKit "supercharged the browser and moved us to the front of the line. "
As you can read, nothing's black or white ...
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