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    the PB just got 2743ms +/- 1.5%... yuck.

    even my 9810 beat that pretty easily, lol... came in at 2521ms +/- 0.6%... which isn't as bad considering it's almost 2 yrs old and only half a sec behind the brand new Nexus 4..

    but the lesson here is they need to be considering multiple benchmarks when touting the browser speed/performance...
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    What it all comes down to is which browser will render everything on the web. The only mobile browser that comes close to doing so is on BB10. That's all folks....
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    Thanks for keeping the record straight man. Some people are just so brainwashed and fail to do their own research before they open their mouth. It's called open source for a reason. Just like there are thousands of linux distro's but they don't all behave the same way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by missing_K-W View Post
    What it all comes down to is which browser will render everything on the web. The only mobile browser that comes close to doing so is on BB10. That's all folks....
    That has yet to be demonstrated. All that is known is that the BB10 browser "acknowledges" more components of html5. It hasn't yet demonstrated the ability to actually do everything html5 requests of it. Big difference.

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    Couple of questions:
    1.Are they going to support addons: such as an adblocker etc?
    2. Will we have a find option, i.e. search for text on a web page???

    Does anybody know the answers to these questions. thanks in advance oddball...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DenverRalphy View Post
    That has yet to be demonstrated. All that is known is that the BB10 browser "acknowledges" more components of html5. It hasn't yet demonstrated the ability to actually do everything html5 requests of it. Big difference.

    Swyped or Swifted via TapaTalk on my Galaxy Nexus.
    I was implying rendering beyond HTML5. RIM's investment in HTML5 support is primarily for content creation, and integration into industry. The browser just reaps the fruit of this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DenverRalphy View Post
    That has yet to be demonstrated. All that is known is that the BB10 browser "acknowledges" more components of html5. It hasn't yet demonstrated the ability to actually do everything html5 requests of it. Big difference.

    Swyped or Swifted via TapaTalk on my Galaxy Nexus.
    What requests would you be implying? I have yet to encounter any issue with my PlayBook browser. BB10 browser is even more capable. I have never had any rendering issues on anything I have encountered on the PB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by missing_K-W View Post
    What it all comes down to is which browser will render everything on the web. The only mobile browser that comes close to doing so is on BB10. That's all folks....
    You obviously haven't used the current Dev Alpha browser for yourself. It isn't like the PlayBook when it comes to rendering everything like a desktop browser would. The PlayBook with BlackBerry 10 might still render everything like a desktop, but the Dev Alpha doesn't. Websites definitely identify the Dev Alpha as a phone, and most websites that have a mobile version, default to the mobile site. I've even had websites recommend that I download their BlackBerry app even though it doesn't exist yet. The sites that load up as mobile on Android are the exact same ones that load up as mobile on Dev Alpha and I honestly can't think of a single site that the Dev Alpha renders the desktop version that my Android phones wont.

    Not to be a party pooper, but I think some people should lower their expectations a little. A lot of posters here are spreading all kinds of information that might sound great, but simply isn't true. At least not yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saiga View Post
    You obviously haven't used the current Dev Alpha browser for yourself. It isn't like the PlayBook when it comes to rendering everything like a desktop browser would. The PlayBook with BlackBerry 10 might still render everything like a desktop, but the Dev Alpha doesn't. Websites definitely identify the Dev Alpha as a phone, and most websites that have a mobile version, default to the mobile site. I've even had websites recommend that I download their BlackBerry app even though it doesn't exist yet. lol

    Not to be a party pooper, but I think some people should lower their expectations a little. A lot of posters here are spreading all kinds of information that might sound great, but simply isn't true. At least not yet.
    Downloading an app for a website just isn't an option for me. I hope that this a result of beta software. However i don't mind switching on the desktop view while in a site. As long as I can have full viewing of a site that's what matters to me, even if having to switch to desktop view.
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    Quote Originally Posted by missing_K-W View Post
    Downloading an app for a website just isn't an option for me. I hope that this a result of beta software. However i don't mind switching on the desktop view while in a site. As long as I can have full viewing of a site that's what matters to me, even if having to switch to desktop view.
    Are there any specific websites you would like for me to try out?
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    I wrote about this MONTHS ago.....Late Very Late...
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    I LOL'ed at all the screenshots in the previous page. Reminded me of a **** measuring contest.

    I shot a quick video instead of show html5 performance on the Galaxy S3. Here are the links if you want to follow along on your device.
    There's some unfortunate glare on the video, but you can just make out the frame per second (FPS) numbers.

    1. Aston Martin
    2. FishBowl benchmark
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    5. Video Kaleidoscope
    6. Angry Birds Rio. This one is Flash, not html5. It is running from the SD card.
    7. Magnifying the Universe. I edited out a portion where the data was loading over wifi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saiga View Post
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    RIM /BlackBerry needs to get that number under a thousand. I would love to see BB leading on both HTML5 & sunspider. The PB browser acts like an entirely new browser if you turn off the js

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    The browser doesn't just need to beat every desktop browser, it needs to be designed to be aesthetically pleasing (and blazingly fast). Cue Apple/Google browsers for example (Reader Mode!!).
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    With a lot of , may I suggest that running performance tests on a devAlpha has no real sense, since hardware specs and optimization are key factors ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly_FR View Post
    With a lot of , may I suggest that running performance tests on a devAlpha has no real sense, since hardware specs and optimization are key factors ?
    Sorry, not going to fly. Hardware specs are only partially responsible for Sunspider scores. A good javascript rendering engine is equally if not more important in achieving high scores.

    Interesting to see you backpedal though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeo007 View Post
    Sorry, not going to fly. Hardware specs are only partially responsible for Sunspider scores. A good javascript rendering engine is equally if not more important in achieving high scores. Interesting to see you backpedal though.
    I'll suggest you do the same test on a 3Gs with iOS6.
    P.S: What backpedal ? Is that a pee length contest ? Enough.
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    I'll suggest you do the same test on a 3Gs with iOS6.
    P.S: What backpedal ? Is that a pee length contest ? Enough.
    Ya, testing on 4-generation old hardware seems fair...it funny that you had to go that far back to find a phone that didn't beat the dev alpha. How about you find test results for an iPhone 4s or ipad3 before and after the JS engine was upgraded in ios 6. 20% difference with zero hardware change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeo007 View Post
    Ya, testing on 4-generation old hardware seems fair...it funny that you had to go that far back to find a phone that didn't beat the dev alpha. How about you find test results for an iPhone 4s or ipad3 before and after the JS engine was upgraded in ios 6. 20% difference with zero hardware change.
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    As long as the browser load fast and can open most of the websites addressed in it, users don't care about any HTML 5 measurement or any. That's the point. And with dev alpha runs on 10.0.9.14 I find the loading speed that I want.
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    A bit off topic, but still relevant... If we could add host files to block, the browser could rock as it is. Its the continuous flash ads that detract from the pb browsers greatness. In my opinion anyway
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlcCorrado View Post
    A bit off topic, but still relevant... If we could add host files to block, the browser could rock as it is. Its the continuous flash ads that detract from the pb browsers greatness. In my opinion anyway
    Yes, host would be cool for advanced users; for usual user they can already disable flash in settings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly_FR View Post
    Yes (host = for adavanced users) for usual user they can disable flash in settings.
    That's a good point
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    Quote Originally Posted by aragone79 View Post
    As long as the browser load fast and can open most of the websites addressed in it, users don't care about any HTML 5 measurement or any. That's the point. And with dev alpha runs on 10.0.9.14 I find the loading speed that I want.
    Once HTML5 takes off the same rendering problem that firefox initially had when it came is going to recur with BB10 devices. Developers will only care if the websites render properly on 90% of browsers and everyone else can make do with bizarre renderings.
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    Here is the test on a Galaxy Nexus fwiw...

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