- 12-30-12, 02:22 PM #26
Also, I'm not sure why people assume higher pixel count will mean lower quality optics. Assuming similar optics and processors, higher pixel count is better. Let's keep one independent variable in this comparison, not a bunch. Make for a more logical discussion.
- 12-30-12, 02:44 PM #28
What I don't want to see is everyone offers 10+MP while BBs are still on 5-8MP range. These are the kind of things people brag about. Whether or not they actually need it...
- 12-30-12, 02:47 PM #29
Most people I know don't have a clue what specs are under the hood of their phone whether it is processors or mps. They do know if it lags or takes crappy pictures though. I don't expect lag or crappy pictures from the new BB phones.
- 12-30-12, 02:50 PM #30
- 12-30-12, 02:56 PM #31
Specs only matter to the uninformed, keep up with the Jones's type of buyer. RIM does not cater to this buyer.
Besides, if it was all about the specs, why do Mac's sell? Their hardware specs don't match up to Windows machine specs. Android is used on many different devices, just like windows is used on many variations of PCs. The hardware makes up for the inefficiencies in the software in these cases. Mac OS is written around predetermined hardware, and will run smoother/faster with lower hardware specs because they are matched to each other.
Why don't we understand that specs sell....?? Why don't you understand that we just don't care about specs? Its about function. An 800 hp 6000 lbs truck is still not as fast as a 550 hp 3000 lbs car. I know I know, you want the 900 hp 2500 lbs car because that sells better in your world....
FYI, a Z06 Corvette (505 hp) out performs a ZR1 Corvette (650 hp) on a practical front, proven so on a race track. If a BB10 can outperform the others with less hardware, what does it matter the hardware specs. To me it proves the OS is simply head and shoulders above the competition.
- 12-30-12, 03:12 PM #33
The image sensors (CMOS chip or CCD chip) are the same size, they are just increasing the density of pixels on said sensors, and as that pixel density increases, quality decreases.
- 12-30-12, 03:19 PM #34
- 12-30-12, 03:20 PM #35
Specs don't matter (to a certain point) but that fact only makes sense to people who understand technology. RIM needs to sell BBs to these people - which means - that they need to match specs even if "they don't matter."
- 12-30-12, 03:27 PM #37
As for the camera, they are improving, and while not on the level of a DSLR, they do at least let the amateur have access to a better experience. And if you don't think better specs sell, there are 30-plus million new SIII users who will disagree with a blasted assumption that improvements don't sell, or make for a better user experience. Add that to tbe Galaxy II, Note and Note 2 users, that makes a pretty big swing versus what has stalled in the last year BlackBerry has been re-tooling their OS. Some of those folks will have those devices for another year and a half. Not the tech hungry, just the average users.
- 12-30-12, 03:41 PM #38
Big giant 90" LCD televisions, but the same 1080p resolution as my 42". Diesel trucks that will yank a house down, and turn it into a child safety seat equipped grocery getter....
Understanding the buyer doesn't matter to me. It just doesn't. I don't think that way. Like I don't think that just because a certain product that has sold the most among its market makes its better.
I'm not a Blackberry user because I want them to sell the most phones. It's because I feel they make the most intuitive devices.
- 12-30-12, 03:52 PM #39
And that's why you're the buyer and not the seller
You are ONE customer, on the other side are 100s of people who will buy a phone because it has a great 8MP camera.
You're right, I even agree to pretty much everything you said BUT that's not a good way to make a comeback for RIM.
- 12-30-12, 04:09 PM #40
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- 12-30-12, 05:04 PM #42
There's no reason RIM can't have the best mobile OS in the world AND have some killer specs to go with it. It's not like those two areas are mutually exclusive. Android's hardware is getting better but so is the software. There's no tradeoff saying processing power has to go down when usability goes up or vice versa. You can argue all you want what RIM needs to do, but I want to have it all with my Z10.
- 12-30-12, 05:06 PM #43
Keep in mind that Android manufacturers haven't really been in a spec race concerning megapixels at all. High end Android phones have had 8mp cameras for at least a year and a half. It seems more focus has been aimed on improving video shooters. Knowing how much everything else changes, I guess it's only fitting that they try to beef megapixels up now. But I completely agree that lens quality and all that matters more than the megapixels on paper. Even though my SKLX09 and BB9700 had the same megapixels, the 9700 took noticeably better shots. Plus there has been some variance between pics taken with different 8mp cameras in the Android phones I've had.
- 12-30-12, 05:41 PM #47
How many of these people that gripe about the cam specs are actually going to use the cam for purposes other then posting pics on their facebook account? Wow did you see how the pic of that macaroni and cheese that I just ate fifteen minutes ago looked? It would not have looked like this had I only had a 12 megapixel cam!
- 12-30-12, 06:07 PM #50
Att: Thorsten, pay attention
I could be wrong ..and so could Apple and Windows phone and RIM as they have stated they are not in a spec race but rather an experience race...why is this si hard for you to understand? Are you a part of that niche group that I just referred to?
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