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    Default "iPhone, its pretty much got BBM right?" HA

    I just wanted to share something interesting that happened to me the other day. I tweeted about how Twitter is now integrated with BBM, and my friend who is an iPhone user was somewhat confused by what I meant. The problem was, he thought his iPhone was on the same level as BlackBerry when he got iOS 5.

    He was fairly surprised when I started to explain to him what exactly BBM was; that its not just a more robust messaging tool, but more a whole social experience. Apple did a great job of their implementation, and to the end user the messaging experience between 2 iPhones is great! ... oh and FYI this guy is a HUGE Apple/iPhone fan who knows a lot about them and is a programmer too, so not just an ignorant iSheep.

    I just found it funny how the more I told him about BBM, the more he realized Apple missed the mark a little. I'm sure this is true with a lot of iPhone users. I bet a lot of them think they pretty much have BBM now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaMunsta View Post
    I just wanted to share something interesting that happened to me the other day. I tweeted about how Twitter is now integrated with BBM, and my friend who is an iPhone user was somewhat confused by what I meant. The problem was, he thought his iPhone was on the same level as BlackBerry when he got iOS 5.

    He was fairly surprised when I started to explain to him what exactly BBM was; that its not just a more robust messaging tool, but more a whole social experience. Apple did a great job of their implementation, and to the end user the messaging experience between 2 iPhones is great! ... oh and FYI this guy is a HUGE Apple/iPhone fan who knows a lot about them and is a programmer too, so not just an ignorant iSheep.

    I just found it funny how the more I told him about BBM, the more he realized Apple missed the mark a little. I'm sure this is true with a lot of iPhone users. I bet a lot of them think they pretty much have BBM now...
    It seems the only folks who care about BBM are Blackberry users and their population is shrinking. I even have the PB and have never thought about BBM.

    Do many people Tweet BBMs?

    I'm not sure iPhone folks are concerned with BBM.
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    How do I Tweet using BBM? That would be handy. I deleted the Twitter app.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaMunsta View Post
    I'm sure this is true with a lot of iPhone users. I bet a lot of them think they pretty much have BBM now...
    On the contrary, I'd be willing to bet that most iPhone users don't even know what BBM is, much less believe iOS 5 messaging to be comparable.
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    I installed this Twitter update as well and it told me it was going to integrate but neither app look any different. **Edit** Sorry if I check my profile on BBM, it shows a link to launch Twitter, so that is the only change i see. WTH?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeJACLive View Post
    I installed this Twitter update as well and it told me it was going to integrate but neither app look any different. **Edit** Sorry if I check my profile on BBM, it shows a link to launch Twitter, so that is the only change i see. WTH?
    When you Tweet throught the Twitter app it will ask you if you want to use your Tweet to update your BBM status as well...
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    Chrisy you'll need to have Twitter installed in order to link it up with your BBM. But it only work for posting your tweets to your BBM status, it doesn't work the other way around.

    Both BBM and iMessage are similar in that they allow you to use data for messaging, cutting down the reliance on SMS and it's 160 character limit. BBM functions a little more like a fully featured, standalone, instant messenger though. iMessage integrates into iOS's text messaging app, switching to iMessage if the other end has it, or just sending out a regular SMS if they don't. It can however use phone numbers and email addresses (instead of being tied to a single PIN), so if you have an iPhone and an iPad, you can carry out and continue conversations under the same ID on all your devices.
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    BBM is an excellent feature, but is only as good as the number of friends you have that also use it. With more and more people leaving the Blackberry platform, I don't think BBM is as relevant a feature any more and I don't think it was ever a selling point those that switched to Android or iPhone ever really considered...
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    I don't have a phone plan that includes MMS messaging. So I can't text pictures without it costing me money. But I can BBM all the pics and other great stuff I want all day long without sucking up large data consumption.
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    I must say, I have experienced this myself. Most of my family members and friends have iphone and they thought , rather they think, pretty much along those lines. Thanks for sharing. Good to know its not just me.
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    BBM is great for what it is but since the only people using it are the few BlackBerry users out there it really doesn't seem mainstream enough for others to worry about. Other Social apps would be better and they're not specific to a small demographic of smartphone users.
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    BBM isn't nearly as relevant as it once was. I hope RIM doesn't pin (no pun intended) their hopes on it to save them. It's an added feature, but it's not a deal maker/breaker in any way. iPhone/Android are growing exponentially without BBM - so it's obviously not that big a concern for people. And with more and more people dropping BBs, the BBM contact list is shrinking which makes it less relevant.
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    BBM is no longer as relevant as it once was, now that there's cross platforms IMs like Whatsapp, Kik, and LiveProfile around. Over the last year my BBM icon has been lighting up less, and the Whatsapp icon's been coming up more and more.

    That said, there's still some value to BBM...if RIM moves to make it cross platform. I think if it became available, Android and iPhone users will download and use it, based on its past reputation. It has the potential to dominate the mobile IM market, which at this point is still quite fragmented.
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    BBM was a great idea with great implementation a few years back. BBM should have been ported to other devices long ago as it could of easily become a standard for instant messaging on smartphones. Now it is being drowned out by other apps even if they pail in comparison. Not to mention they should have replaced the ridiculous bbm pin with an email or at least a phone number. I remember watching two non technical people looking at their phones for an hour trying to share their pins, quite amusing to watch as one of them didn't even have a data plan.
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    See my view here is different.

    I can update my FB, Twitter and BBM from social feeds so why do I need to be able to from the apps themselves?

    Especially in the case of FB, I'd have rather RIM spent the time developing a FB app to rival iPhone and Android than worry anout integrating an average app into BBM when social feeds already had that covered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ADozenEggs@aol.com View Post
    It seems the only folks who care about BBM are Blackberry users and their population is shrinking. I even have the PB and have never thought about BBM.
    population is shrinking clearly an American point of view. We have our selves a Junior journalist folks
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    I love BB and BBM but these threads never end well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ADozenEggs@aol.com View Post
    It seems the only folks who care about BBM are Blackberry users and their population is shrinking. I even have the PB and have never thought about BBM.

    Do many people Tweet BBMs?

    I'm not sure iPhone folks are concerned with BBM.

    You never had a BlackBerry with BBM I guess.

    Those users who never had it, or never embraced it don't really understand it, it is like BlackBerry Bridge to the outsider it looks like just a crappy tethertool, but it offers so much more.

    I unfortunately know a few people who have left for iPhones, and they love them, except for iMessage/LiveProfile is NO BBM substitute, and a few Miss the Keyboard, but the 1000's of new things they get to do with Apps makes up for that loss to them.

    BBM is still a draw factor and it still is a great product, yes to those who never used it, and seeing as the smartphone market grows so fast more and more people have never used it, so it isn't as big of draw, but when you really made use of it, nothing replaces it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mark-d View Post
    See my view here is different.

    I can update my FB, Twitter and BBM from social feeds so why do I need to be able to from the apps themselves?

    Especially in the case of FB, I'd have rather RIM spent the time developing a FB app to rival iPhone and Android than worry anout integrating an average app into BBM when social feeds already had that covered.

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    Well iPhone has iMessage and while it's nothing amazing yet - it is also the first iteration of that messaging application. Id be willing to bet apple is going to have some very cool upgrades for it in ios6 - why do I think that? Because apple makes smart decisions and brings to the masses what they want/need, to that end I can't say the same thing about rim and their choices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackberry Guy View Post
    Chrisy you'll need to have Twitter installed in order to link it up with your BBM. But it only work for posting your tweets to your BBM status, it doesn't work the other way around.

    Both BBM and iMessage are similar in that they allow you to use data for messaging, cutting down the reliance on SMS and it's 160 character limit. BBM functions a little more like a fully featured, standalone, instant messenger though. iMessage integrates into iOS's text messaging app, switching to iMessage if the other end has it, or just sending out a regular SMS if they don't. It can however use phone numbers and email addresses (instead of being tied to a single PIN), so if you have an iPhone and an iPad, you can carry out and continue conversations under the same ID on all your devices.
    You do know that BBM has SMS integration in it now in which you can actually put contacts in it who aren't on a Blackberry phone and send them a text using BBM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaMunsta View Post
    He was fairly surprised when I started to explain to him what exactly BBM was; that its not just a more robust messaging tool, but more a whole social experience.
    The thing is, a lot people might only use BBM to send messages to their buddies because it's "free". Personally, that's all I do with it, I see it as a free substitute to text messaging.

    So the whole social experience piece of it is probably lost on people like me.
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    To "embrace it" one must know someone to with a BB phone and able to use it. I can count on one hand the number of folks I know with a BB phone here in WI.

    I would say more are not embracing BBM by the day since BB is losing market share and other platforms are expanding.

    Again, it is the consumer phone without BBM that is causing RIM so much pain.

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    Great thing about BBM is that your contacts do not have to come from your geographical location. You can add users from all over the world. You do not have to know anyone from your city or state/province. Many online services help connect BBM users to each other.

    I know all about kik, whatsapp, LiveNation and a whole host of other crappy cross platform IM clients. The only problem I have is that they are not BBM. I am still getting about 10-20 requests on BBM a day. While my demos have changed, my overall contact numbers have not. I'll admit that a North American contact is in my minority, but that's really no surprise.

    I really like BBM, and I also have a PB, I don't care if they add it to it or not. I know those who are rocking the PB without a BB may have a need for it, but I think it's kind of shortsighted to say that because someone has a PB and isn't interested in BBM, then that must be the norm. It's not.

    iOS users do indeed know what BBM is. Almost as much as BB users know what Siri is. It's their fall back argument for getting me to try one of the xplatform chat apps. "Oh, cmon, it's just like BBM only it doesn't care if you are on Android, iOS, or BBOS." My usuall canned response is "Then it's not BBM, is it?"

    BBM + Social Feeds can be pretty versatile and powerful if used properly. Like most things though, if you don't play around and figure out what you can do, it may seem limited.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaMunsta View Post
    I just wanted to share something interesting that happened to me the other day. I tweeted about how Twitter is now integrated with BBM, and my friend who is an iPhone user was somewhat confused by what I meant. The problem was, he thought his iPhone was on the same level as BlackBerry when he got iOS 5.

    He was fairly surprised when I started to explain to him what exactly BBM was; that its not just a more robust messaging tool, but more a whole social experience. Apple did a great job of their implementation, and to the end user the messaging experience between 2 iPhones is great! ... oh and FYI this guy is a HUGE Apple/iPhone fan who knows a lot about them and is a programmer too, so not just an ignorant iSheep.

    I just found it funny how the more I told him about BBM, the more he realized Apple missed the mark a little. I'm sure this is true with a lot of iPhone users. I bet a lot of them think they pretty much have BBM now...
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