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    Full BlackBerry 6 Bold 9700 6.0.0.344 Leak Bugs & Impressions Review

    Of course this being a leak and especially with no official releases for the 9700 yet, it’s to be expected there to be some bugs. In my opinion however, the functionality definitely outweighs all of the bugs that come with BlackBerry 6.

    As a heads up, some of the things I mention will likely overlap with Kevin's review of BlackBerry 6. His guide is very extensive, however I'm writing here more-so about my experience with the leak on the 9700 and what's impressed me the most in comparison to OS 5.


    Impressions

    Battery Life

    I have found the battery life to be at least twice as good as it was on OS 5 when my BlackBerry is idling. While using MeterBerry, I can see it dropping at around 1% per half an hour, where-as it used to go down no less than 2% per half an hour on idling, with the same apps installed & running.



    I've heard of some people having issues where the battery level suddenly plummets at 35%. What I have read on the forums is that it would drop to 8% right after it display 35%, and sometimes the BlackBerry would die shortly. I personally have not experienced this issue.

    Even when I am using my BlackBerry to listen to Podcasts throughout the day, it still lasts my the entire day without topping up, where-as lately with OS 5 I was having issues with it dying much faster than it used to. I purchased a new battery, and that didn't seem to help much.


    Universal Search

    When I initially started using BlackBerry 6 on my 9700, the first thing I noticed was that the Universal Search was on by default on the home screen, and it seemed like I had lost all my keyboard shortcuts that I was so used to using off of the home screen. For example, to go to Messages, I was used to pressing the "M" key which would send me there. I later found out that this is an option that is changeable by pressing the BB button on the home screen, selecting Options, and changing the "Launch by Typing" option to "Application Shortcuts."

    *This screen capture for this can be found here

    I found Universal Search to be very useful where unlike in BlackBerry 6, it will search all parts of your BlackBerry with one shot (I'm talking Podcasts, contacts, both local & remote messages/e-mails, music, options, 3rd party apps, YouTube, etc.). I'm really digging the search as you type that works for a good amount of the Core apps of the BlackBerry.



    When you want to change an option, all you do is go to options, type a part of it, and you are shown where that option is. No more having to dig through to find where the option you want to change.




    Manage Connections

    Pulling up Manage Connections from the main screen has been a dream of mine ever since I laid my eyes on BlackBerry 6, and now that I've seen it I'm even more impressed. Aside from it being so easily accessible by clicking on the top item of the home screen, it's got added functionality in BlackBerry 6 such as setting the alarm clock and Options.




    Social Apps

    While I'm not a huge fan of social apps, I tend to be a fan of RSS. The RSS portion of the Social Apps offered with BlackBerry 6 work pretty well, however at this point when clicking on "View Full Article," the page never comes up. As well, it lacks the ability to see which RSS feeds have been read, which I'm hoping RIM is working on improving.


    Memory Leak

    While going through the CrackBerry forums, I've heard several people mention a memory leak. I had an interesting experience recently where I was using MemoPad for an extended period of time, and my Storage Memory went down the drain. You can see the start of it on the screen capture below made from the Internals app. The device memory signified in purple is definitely dropping significantly, where-as in OS 5, I always had it sitting at the top at 32MB, close to 90%.



    I've also heard throughout the CrackBerry community that there are specific 3rd party apps that area causing the memory leak, but I haven't come across any such apps myself. So with that in mind, I am only going to mention to watch out for it, as it does appear to be out there.


    Browser

    Over-all, the browser works better than in OS 5. When downloading through it, to my amazement, the downloads fly. I was under the impression that the downloads on OS 5 were slower due to data speed limitation, but boy was I ever wrong.

    One thing that I initially thought was missing when I started using BlackBerry 6 was the shortcuts on the browser. With the help of the CrackBerry forums however, I realized that there was an option within the browser to enable the shortcuts.

    Keep in mind that the new Webkit browser is missing emulation mode, which I am hoping they're working on, as otherwise it's likely to send users back to 3rd party browsers for those sites they want to see in full mode that aren't given the choice by the website itself to switch back & forth.


    Calendar

    The calendar looks different, and initially, I was led to believe that it was no longer possible to swipe the trackpad to the right for the next day in day view, and to the left to view the previous day's events. I recently realized that the swipe required for this is much more extensive than before, as you need to nearly swipe your entire numb in order to get to the next/previous day on day view.

    Aside from that, I have mixed feeling about the way the coloured highlighting works for the new calendar to separate between the different calendars you have (I have Desktop, Gmail, and BB for BlackBerry.net account). In the image below, you can see how hard it is to view the green on "Gmail calendar event" without highlighting it.




    OS 5 Apps

    Regardless, I've found that all apps that working for me on OS 5 are working fine for me on BlackBerry 6. The only problem is that some are not working the same. An example would be BatteryEx, which displays a battery icon with the percentage of battery left. It only seems to work on my home screen, and not on anywhere else within the OS. It's nothing I can't live without, but it just means I have to go back to my home screen to check my battery level, which I tend to do constantly.




    Ringtones

    The new ringtones that are included with BlackBerry 6 sound very clean and all-in-all in my opinion aren't bad at all. However there were a few that I missed, especially considering I have at least one that I used on my OS 5 off of the BlackBerry 4 OS. So I noticed with the help of the CrackBerry forums that it's possible to take the old ringtone COD file, and install it on your BlackBerry on BlackBerry 6. The post I found suggested re-installing the OS, but I managed to do it using BBSAK.


    Very Minor Down-Side - Scrolling through Emoticons

    I noticed that when I have the emoticons menu open within BBM for example, and I scroll down to the bottom, my cursor stops after hitting the bottom. With OS 5, after hitting the bottom in the emoticons window, it would start scrolling to the right. It's more of a minor thing, but it was something I was used to that's for some reason no longer available.


    No Custom Themes Available as of Yet

    At this point, Theme Studio doesn’t support any device other than the Torch 9800. I’m anxiously awaiting an update of it to come out, so that I can either find a theme with a weather slot or try making one myself. BerryWeather doesn’t work the way I like, and I’ve always found it extremely convenient to take a glance at my screen to see what the temperature and current weather conditions are within my area. So this is one down side of playing around with this leak, but truth be told, the factory theme is quite more functional than most OS 5 ones I’ve tried, so I’m personally fine living with this limitation at this point.



    The Bugs of the Leak

    Keep in mind that there may be certain bugs that I haven't experienced or yet noticed that others may find, so this section is only as complete as I could make it.


    No Theme Upon Initial Install

    Have you tried installing the leaked version of BlackBerry 6 only to find out that you're stuck in a white screen with barely anything visible on it? The problem is that this leak seems to only have been designed for a handful of carriers, and they are the ones that a theme has been assigned to.

    Here's the solution to this:
    1. Press ALT + SHIFT + H, and note your "vendor ID" from that page (mine's "102" for my BB from AT&T).
    2. Go to c:\Program files\common files\Research In Motion\Shared\Loader files\9700M_v6.0.0.344_P6.6.0.50 and look for a file name blackberry.axl
    3. Once you've locate the file, open it with Notepad
    4. Hit Clrl+f and look for the word vendorid until you see this

    net_rim_theme_tmobile_BlackBerry6_480x360_b.cod

    5. Now take the vendor ID you looked up in step 1. Since my vendorid is 102, I changed 100 to 102 and saved it.
    6. Reload OS 6 to your phone and the theme will come up and you're in business


    Browser Error With Page Too Large

    The comes up with an error saying the page was too large to be displayed. When you click on the only option available “OK,” the browser closes and re-opens, losing all your tabs you had open. Then if you try opening the same page again, it will load fine.


    Scrolling through Messages with Space and then navigating with Trackpad

    I like to scroll page-by-page using the space key. The problem I’ve noticed here is that when you are at the part where you’re like to click on a link and you try scrolling up using the trackpad, the focus of the message jumps way down. The work-around I’ve found for this is scrolling back up with the trackpad up to the desired area and highlighting the link that way.


    Copying to Clipboard in Address Book

    The copy function within the address book does not appear to place the text you're attempting to copy in the clipboard. The work-around I've found in the CrackBerry forums is doing a Universal Search for the contact, where it will allow you to do the copy of the relevant information (eg. a phone number from a contact).


    “Messages” Comes up Distorted or Wrong Message Opens

    I've found that when you already have Messages open and you get a new e-mail for example, when you highlight the new e-mail and try opening it, you get the previous e-mail that opens up. Closing and re-opening Messages seems to solve this.

    Also sometimes when I open my Messages with a new e-mail that has arrived, I've found that the highlighted area is in between the date & the top message. Closing & re-opening Messages also solves this.


    Cursor Disappears while Scrolling Within Conversation on BBM

    When you're in a conversation on BBM and you want to see how long ago a message was sent above or you can to copy a part of a previous message within the conversation, you will find that when scrolling up, the cursor disappears. When you scroll back down, it only re-appears when you're back in the typing area. The only way that I've found to work around that is by slowly scrolling and seeing the difference in the "Sent @ (...)" or "Received @ (...)" label below the contact's name at the top.


    Messages Don't Show Up Doing Quick Search within Messages

    When you're in Messages and you want to do a quick search, you can pressed the "S" key on your keyboard, and a little search box will come up at the top. The problem is that the results search you run from there do not show up. Only the date of what seems to be the latest of the search results will show up. The work-around I've found for this is doing an Advanced Search instead.

    *This screen capture for this can be found here

    Something related is when searching using the Quick Search within Messages, numerous results are found as per the number within the brackets, yet only a few will show up (in the example below, only two show, with results of 564 messages found).




    Messages Cut Off After Doing Advanced Search Within Messages

    Yet another issue I'm now having issue reproducing. None-the-less, I'll explain it anyways as I've experienced it more than enough times to mention it here.

    After successfully doing an Advanced Search within Messages, I would press my Back key. At this point, I would also see a screen-full of messages, and no longer be able to scroll beyond that. The work-around I found for this is going to the mailbox's respective icon (for eg. "Gmail") to see beyond the view it would allow me to see. Eventually this has been clearing on its own without doing anything, so it's almost as though the BlackBerry is trying to process something within Messages during this time.


    RSS Feeds Within Social Apps: Loading of Summaries Takes Really Long

    So you've set up your RSS feeds within Social Apps. You go to read one of the posts that you liked, so you open it. You see nothing within the contents, and no sign of anything happening. After at a duration ranging from 10 to 30 seconds, the summary appears. I'm not sure if this is a bug or just the way the app works, but it really feels like a lot longer while you're sitting there all anxious waiting for the summary to come up so you can see if you want to read the entire story.




    RSS Feeds Within Social Apps: "View Full Story" Button Doesn't Work

    Before describing this issue, please keep this in mind: Depending on the RSS feed source, what I'm about to describe might not be an issue as it reads the links from within it (CrackBerry's RSS feeds work rather well for instance). I've even noticed that the "View Full Story" works for the CrackBerry RSS feeds, but not for most of the other RSS feeds I've been using.

    Once you're done waiting for the summary to load of an RSS feed after you've opened it, you might want to read the full story. You click on the "View Full Story" button, and all you get is the browser open with nothing within it, as if you just opened the web browser for the first time after booting your BlackBerry and are about to start working with it. The work-around I've found for this is pressing the BB button, clicking on "Send As", selecting "Email" and opening the link that shows up there.




    Manage Connections Often Loses Highlighting

    While launching Manage Connections from the home screen by clicking on the top of the home screen (where the carrier, time, etc. is found), the highlighting of the item you'd like to select disappears when attempting to scroll up & down. The work-around I have found for this is by closing and re-opening Manage Connections until the highlighting re-appears (sometimes it takes several tries).


    BBM Barcode Scanner Doesn't Work For URLs

    I've become rather accustomed to scanning QR Code barcodes off of my computer's screen with the barcode scanner that comes with the latest versions of BBM. It still works fine for barcodes that are linked to BBM contacts & groups, however when attempting to scan ones related to URLs, it does nothing but beep. Originally it would open the respecting website. I also like to create my own barcodes, as I find it to be one of the fastest ways of opening an OTA link on my BB that I've found on my computer's web browser, which makes this that much more of a bummer for me. If I had to guess, I'd think that this is related to the Webkit Browser that hasn't been developed yet to work with this functionality. The work-around that I suggest to this is e-mailing yourself the address in question or if you're on BES, creating a note within Outlook and then opening it on your BlackBerry after giving it a minute or two to sync.


    In Conclusion

    Yes, there are some bugs with the leak, but all-in-all, I definitely recommend giving it a go to see if the advantages of BlackBerry 6 outweigh the bug, as they do for me.



    *Please note: I was only able to post 10 images on this post. I couldn’t reduce it below 12, so I had to link one to the image itself due to the limitations of the forum.
    Last edited by Sashko; 11-19-2010 at 01:39 PM. Reason: Correction in intro of article
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    Very nice review, I'm experiencing the exact same bugs as you are as well. Bugs don't annoy me enough to force me to downgrade back to OS5 though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeanNSupreme View Post
    Very nice review, I'm experiencing the exact same bugs as you are as well. Bugs don't annoy me enough to force me to downgrade back to OS5 though.
    Thanks.

    Yeah, these bugs aren't that bad imho, can definitely live with them :-)

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    Pretty much nailed all the ones I can think of. Nicely done. Can't wait until the full release.

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    Been on OS6 9700 Bold since about 8am this morning and I have to say...I love it, I have a new phone! So far its been very reliable. It was a bit slow at first, but after some deleting of several thousand emails I was much better off. I look forward to the official release.


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    Very nice review.

    All that you have said is true but I am still using this build and loving it.

    Cant wait till the next build and hopefully have these glitches sorted out
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    Sorry for sounding like a rube here but what number am i supposed to change here? I checked and it said my vendorid was 100, i look and it appears my vendorid in the blackberry.alx file is already 100 ... i'm running t-mobile as well so i'm unsure what i'm missing here ... Here is a copy/paste of what i'm lookin at:
    <fileset Java="1.0" WLAN="True" UMA="True" _vendorID="100">
    <files>
    net_rim_errortranslator_tmobile.cod
    net_rim_errortranslator_tmobile_resource.cod
    net_rim_errortranslator_tmobile_resource__en.cod
    </files>
    </fileset>
    <fileset Theme="Normal" series="Onyx" WebKit="True" Java="1.0" _vendorID="100">
    <files>
    net_rim_theme_tmobile_BlackBerry6_480x360_b.cod
    </files>
    </fileset>
    <fileset Theme="Normal" series="Onyx" WebKit="True" Java="1.0" _vendorID="123|134|170|171|202|250|271">
    <files>
    net_rim_theme_tmobileeu_BlackBerry6_480x360_b.cod
    </files>
    </fileset>


    thanks guys ...
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    Great review. Helped to understand the problems

    I think I found one bug that was not mentioned or maybe I missed it. But I seem to not be able to change my font anymore.

    I did not like the default font so I changed it to "Ariel" font. Well now I cannot access the font options. Options > Screen Display > ????. and nothing. It does not open and I cannot figure out why.

    Can someone help me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uchennaya View Post
    Great review. Helped to understand the problems

    I think I found one bug that was not mentioned or maybe I missed it. But I seem to not be able to change my font anymore.

    I did not like the default font so I changed it to "Ariel" font. Well now I cannot access the font options. Options > Screen Display > ????. and nothing. It does not open and I cannot figure out why.

    Can someone help me?
    Think i've been having a similar issue but i've never tried to change the font in the first place.
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    ok, so i just deleted that file i was supposed to change the vendorid for using bbsak, workin like a charm now ...
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    anybody know anything about getting rid of my 2 web2go icons (i have the normal browser icon for use) and the facebook and myspace icons besides hiding them? I hate how that stuff loads up, dont use myspace and the facebook thing just takes me to the web, not even the facebook page ... the web2go things are just redundant to me, i couldnt tell ya if their is a difference between what they do and the browser icon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uchennaya View Post
    Great review. Helped to understand the problems

    I think I found one bug that was not mentioned or maybe I missed it. But I seem to not be able to change my font anymore.

    I did not like the default font so I changed it to "Ariel" font. Well now I cannot access the font options. Options > Screen Display > ????. and nothing. It does not open and I cannot figure out why.

    Can someone help me?
    The simplest troubleshooting step I can think of is a battery pull if you haven't tried one already, and that's where I would start :-)


    Quote Originally Posted by fncygtrjammer View Post
    anybody know anything about getting rid of my 2 web2go icons (i have the normal browser icon for use) and the facebook and myspace icons besides hiding them? I hate how that stuff loads up, dont use myspace and the facebook thing just takes me to the web, not even the facebook page ... the web2go things are just redundant to me, i couldnt tell ya if their is a difference between what they do and the browser icon.
    Check your service book, you can most likely delete them from there. I do recommend backing it up before deleting anything from it though.

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    Nice review. The only one that really bothers me are : "RSS Feeds Within Social Apps: Loading of Summaries Takes Really Long"

    I found that You can Press ALT+Trackpad, then it comes up right away. (i think it is a Webkit rendering issue, as problem it is somehow connected to opening the Browser, and the text formatting looks like it is rendered by Webkit)

    If You do a restart of the phone and try Your RSS before opening the Browser, they show the content very snappy (less than a second), but as soon as you have opened the Browser it stalls the RSS content ....

    Also Word wrapping in text input fields in the Browser does not work with predictive input turned on.
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    Very comprehensive and detailed. Much appreciated.
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    hello,
    i'm a new user on the forum and crackberry and i would like to know so i heard from the blackberry apps world site the KIK messanger is end. so i cant download from the BB APP World.
    if i download it from an other site is that compatibily yet? so i can use to and not independ to where i down load it.
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    pls write asap to the marshalltroubadour@yahoo.co.uk coz i cant check it soon, and i need this info pls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mio_BB View Post
    Nice review. The only one that really bothers me are : "RSS Feeds Within Social Apps: Loading of Summaries Takes Really Long"

    I found that You can Press ALT+Trackpad, then it comes up right away. (i think it is a Webkit rendering issue, as problem it is somehow connected to opening the Browser, and the text formatting looks like it is rendered by Webkit)

    If You do a restart of the phone and try Your RSS before opening the Browser, they show the content very snappy (less than a second), but as soon as you have opened the Browser it stalls the RSS content ....

    Also Word wrapping in text input fields in the Browser does not work with predictive input turned on.
    Awesome work-around, definitely appreciate the input on this one, this is going to make my RSS reading that much more enjoyable. And hopefully soon enough, RIM will fix it so we don't need to use the ALT + pressing touch pad to view the summary right away.
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    One thing that bothers me, even though its so minor, is the fact that they changed around the N and P shortcuts in Messages. "N" used to go to the newest email (upwards) and P would go to the Previous (downwards). The same if you went to the date on Messages, and wanted to go to the previous or next day. Now they have swapped it around. N goes older and P goes newer. Drives me nuts!

    Just my 1 cent worth ....
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    Wow, one of the more detailed well thought out and helpful reviews I have read in sometime...thank you kind sir.

    Only reason I haven't tried it yet, but still debating is I have read a couple people say UMA isn't as good...and need it to be solid at my house as I get crappy signal without it.

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    I didn't realise this was out. This looks great
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uchennaya View Post
    Great review. Helped to understand the problems

    I think I found one bug that was not mentioned or maybe I missed it. But I seem to not be able to change my font anymore.

    I did not like the default font so I changed it to "Ariel" font. Well now I cannot access the font options. Options > Screen Display > ????. and nothing. It does not open and I cannot figure out why.

    Can someone help me?
    To adjust the font type font from the home screen, screen display would come up click on it then you would be able to change your font
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonsamson View Post
    One thing that bothers me, even though its so minor, is the fact that they changed around the N and P shortcuts in Messages. "N" used to go to the newest email (upwards) and P would go to the Previous (downwards). The same if you went to the date on Messages, and wanted to go to the previous or next day. Now they have swapped it around. N goes older and P goes newer. Drives me nuts!

    Just my 1 cent worth ....
    other thing i've just realized. previously on OS 5.0, whenever i wish to compose a new email, from inbox, i just need to hit "N" and the new email window will come up. but on OS 6.0, that shortcut has been replaced with "C" (compose, i think), sometimes it confuses me haha..

    also, when viewing attachments, previously on OS 4.x or OS 5.0, zooming in/out is by simply pressing "R" to zoom in or "C" to zoom out, but in OS 6.0, those shortcuts are now replaced by "I" for zooming in and "O" for zooming out. yeah.. that makes more sense.. just that i need to refamiliarize the way this OS works with shortcuts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snakepit1988 View Post
    hello,
    i'm a new user on the forum and crackberry and i would like to know so i heard from the blackberry apps world site the KIK messanger is end. so i cant download from the BB APP World.
    if i download it from an other site is that compatibily yet? so i can use to and not independ to where i down load it.
    thanks
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    To everyone expressing your gratitude towards this thread, I thank you. It did take me a fair amount of time to put it together, and it's great to see people benefiting from it :-)

    Quote Originally Posted by yvpan1 View Post
    other thing i've just realized. previously on OS 5.0, whenever i wish to compose a new email, from inbox, i just need to hit "N" and the new email window will come up. but on OS 6.0, that shortcut has been replaced with "C" (compose, i think), sometimes it confuses me haha..
    I'm not sure how many releases ago "C" was set for "Compose" within messages, but ever since I can remember on OS 5, it's been "C" for "Compose" and "N" for "Next" similar to jonsamson's experience.
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    My flash stopped working using os6 but i just reinstalled os6 and its fine, any suggestions on why it stops working?

    I do have a massive crack on my flash, but that surely isnt the problem
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