Why Microsoft NEEDS to buy RIM right now

[nesstheraven]

I personally would love to see RIM make it on their own. However, I just don’t see them having the money to create the ecosystem needed for the future. I’m writing this because of the Halliburton news and other news about the exodus to iOS.

I can see the allure of iOS, and it has nothing to do with how cool it is, or some fad/trend. It is the fact that iOS devices are made to work together. You have the phone, tablet and computer, all linked together (hopefully in a seamless way), and this spells efficiency, and efficiency spells more production at a lower per unit cost (even if the initial investment is high).

It also bothers me that Heins is waiting for the first security breach. For one, this may not happen. Second, Apple has a couple years (that is how long it will take for a company to make the complete transition) and a hundred billion dollars to create a state of the art security system for there iOS devices. And I think companies believe they will be able to do it.

So why does Microsoft NEED to buy RIM. The answer is to retain their corporate strong hold. The media focuses on how RIM is losing to Apple, but every time a corporation moves to iOS, they are also moving away from Windows. RIM has the smartphone, tablets, and QNX (for cars etc), Microsoft has the OS, software, and cash. If Microsoft waits too long, they will start seeing Windows erode faster than the perceived blackberry erosion.

My worry for RIM is that android will take over the consumer market from RIM and Apple will take over the corporate market from RIM. Companies overseas will follow suit, and we’ll have two heavyweights in the future (Apple and Google).

[mithrazor]

I don't see how you can say that when we don't even know what BB10 specifically has to offer right now.

Plus MS wouldn't buy RIM. They already have their own ecosystem. It would just be the death of RIM.

[BoldPreza]

I don't see that happening or working to be honest.

I think RIM can do it on its own, but they need to be effective with the next launch.

[13echo4]

When did Rim come up for sell? Did I miss something?

[nesstheraven]

The only reason I say this is that Microsoft has not been able to get into the corporate marketplace with its Windows phone. If they buy RIM they get instant access to the corporate phone market. But the longer they wait, the smaller that BlackBerry Corporate market gets. That is why they need to do it now.

The ecosystem for the corporate market is phone, computer, and tablet integration. That is why we are seeing the exodus to iOS. They already have this corporate ecosystem. RIM is missing the Computer parter, Microsoft needs quick access to the phone and tablet part.

(also, I'm not saying 'RIM needs to sell itself to Microsoft'. I'm saying 'Microsoft needs to buy RIM').

[Sith_Apprentice]

Why does a corporation moving to iOS smartphones mean leaving Windows?? It has nothing to do with leaving Windows. In fact MICROSOFT Exchange integration is one reason why companies choose iOS.

The security breeches happen all the time. DoD has deemed iOS basically un-securable, Thorsten is not wrong in this. There only needs to be a report of a MAJOR breech, that will cause the issue. It will happen, and sooner rather than later.

[kbz1960]

Why people need to quit thinking RIM needs to be bought by ms, apple, google or anyone else.

Because it ain't happening. Do people really only want 2 choices when it comes to phones and tablets? I don't when the choices are both something I wouldn't choose if I had a choice.

[alnamvet68]

Never gonna' happen naysayers...just wishfull thinking by haters.

[13echo4]

Originally Posted by nesstheraven

The only reason I say this is that Microsoft has not been able to get into the corporate marketplace with its Windows phone. If they buy RIM they get instant access to the corporate phone market. But the longer they wait, the smaller that BlackBerry Corporate market gets. That is why they need to do it now.

The ecosystem for the corporate market is phone, computer, and tablet integration. That is why we are seeing the exodus to iOS. They already have this corporate ecosystem. RIM is missing the Computer parter, Microsoft needs quick access to the phone and tablet part.

(also, I'm not saying 'RIM needs to sell itself to Microsoft'. I'm saying 'Microsoft needs to buy RIM').

Rim needs to be for sale 1st.

[missing_K-W]

Another BS RIM acquisition post....First off RIM will not allow a sale...Secondly RIM is focusing QNX's BB platform around consumers, enterprise and QNX's existing customer base such as Auto industry OEM's , Medical indusrty , Aerospace etc....QNX has autonomy in all markets...Last the Canadian government views RIM as "critical technology". We need to put a rest to all these foolish acquisition talks.

RIM is building BB10 to work with its QNX clientele, aside from the already enterprise/consumer base BlackBerry already serves. If anyone is unaware of what I am implying. First learn what RIM is forging ahead with before you add a who needs to acquire RIM.

To end this , no article or forum post argument supporting a sale of RIM has ever mentioned what synergy's the other company would have with RIM. The key to a prudent acquisition is founded on the synergy each company shares. Until anyone has a valid synergistic point to make, all matters related to this topic are utterly foolish!

[nesstheraven]

Originally Posted by kbz1960

Why people need to quit thinking RIM needs to be bought by ms, apple, google or anyone else.

Because it ain't happening. Do people really only want 2 choices when it comes to phones and tablets? I don't when the choices are both something I wouldn't choose if I had a choice.

I would rather not see RIM get bought (and it probably won’t happen). And I love choice. But the fact of the matter is, we seem to be moving to a duopoly market for smartphones.

Plus, apple has the nice phone, tablet, computer ecosystem. It is scary, and I despise Apple as much as the rest of you. But it does make sense for Microsoft to get into that phone, tablet, computer ecosystem (which they seem to be trying to do), and I don’t think RIM has the resources and time to create that type of ecosystem without an incredibly strong partner.

If your company needs phones, tablets, and computers, and you see seamless integration as an efficiency, then Apple seems to be a strong candidate for your company. Especially if you’re looking at a major upgrade for your old PC’s and Blackberries. Choice one (get new PC’s and Blackberries) Choice two (move to iOS stuff). It seems that we are starting to see companies chose iOS stuff more and more.

All that said, I am a RIM supporter, and I'm talking more from the perspective of what Microsoft needs, not what RIM needs.

[Palmless]

Originally Posted by kbz1960

Why people need to quit thinking RIM needs to be bought by ms, apple, google or anyone else.

Because it ain't happening. Do people really only want 2 choices when it comes to phones and tablets? I don't when the choices are both something I wouldn't choose if I had a choice.

I agree. Canada has weighed in, and market forces will not be a factor in determining the highest valued use of RIM's assets. What we need to understand is that it DOESN'T MATTER if a sale of RIM would be in the best interests of the shareholders or not... it isn't going to happen.

The synergies are obvious and countless, and such an acquisition could mean the survival of Blackberry as a brand in some form. But the option is off the table.

[alexandros2011]

i think i speak for alot of people here in saying im pretty tired of reading all these doom and gloom sayers, theorists and time killers expounding the near death of rim and the bb. why doesnt everyone relax, enjoy their bb's and not look for the rim apocolypse to occur on a day to day basis?

enjoy the great devices we have and lets wait and see what the future holds

peace to all

alexandros

[kbz1960]

Originally Posted by nesstheraven

I would rather not see RIM get bought (and it probably won’t happen). And I love choice. But the fact of the matter is, we seem to be moving to a duopoly market for smartphones.

Plus, apple has the nice phone, tablet, computer ecosystem. It is scary, and I despise Apple as much as the rest of you. But it does make sense for Microsoft to get into that phone, tablet, computer ecosystem (which they seem to be trying to do), and I don’t think RIM has the resources and time to create that type of ecosystem without an incredibly strong partner.

If your company needs phones, tablets, and computers, and you see seamless integration as an efficiency, then Apple seems to be a strong candidate for your company. Especially if you’re looking at a major upgrade for your old PC’s and Blackberries. Choice one (get new PC’s and Blackberries) Choice two (move to iOS stuff). It seems that we are starting to see companies chose iOS stuff more and more.

All that said, I am a RIM supporter, and I'm talking more from the perspective of what Microsoft needs, not what RIM needs.

I'll agree that seemless integration is one of the few things I do like about apple. Seems the rest are getting there too.

[Alex_Hong]

just one word when i read the opening post.

seriously?

on a serious note: microsoft doesn't need to buy anyone, they can do it by themselves. and last i checked, "last quater earnings dated december 15, Revenue of $5.2 billion, up 24% from last quarter" it may not be as much as Apple's earnings, but that is still a significant amount. Unless OP knows how much RIM needs to make the transition, its all just opinions. Everyone has the right to their own opinion though. So here's mine, SERIOUSLY?