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Originally Posted by Blackberry Guy I've always been of the opinion that hardware keyboards are like manual transmissions in cars. They offer better precision, control, and an overall better typing experience. They are appreciated and demanded by a minority amount of "purists", but they generally have fallen out of favour with the general public.
There will always been room for hardware keyboards, but they will never dominate the smartphone market like it did before 2008. The touchscreen is the automatic transmission. |
Great way to put it.
I think touchscreens are the future of mass production smartphones, and internet devices like tablets, Notebooks and Keyboard based phones will take a back seat.
People who's primary function is text based content creation will stick to the keyboards, those who's primary functions are consumption will move more to touchscreens, obviously with the few exceptions.
And by a large margin people are consumers far more than creaters.
why does the guy who uses is computer to read the news in the morning and watch youtube NEED a keyboard?
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02-05-2012, 06:13 PM
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I doubt qwerty keyboards will go extinct. I love mine, I can't stand typing on a touch screen.
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The question of whether we like physical keyboards is a matter of personal preference; the question of whether they are a dying breed isn't.
I like the hardware keyboard, but that in itself doesn't mean anything. People may like them a lot, but in order to have one, you have to put up with either a smaller screen or some sort of slider/swivel. I had a SideKick for three years, with the trademark swivel screen. I didn't mind it, but when I switched to the Curve 8320 I suddenly discovered that I liked having a compact one-piece phone. The SideKick LX keyboard was beautiful--the best I've seen on any mobile device--but in the end other considerations trumped it, for me.
Expectations keep changing, but the success of iPhones, all with the same form factor, should tell us something. It doesn't tell us that people don't like physical keyboards, but it tells us that they like other things enough not to insist on those keyboards, just as Alex_Hong wrote above. And we know that plenty of people can learn to do text entry very quickly and accurately on touch screens. That, in turn, suggests that it's those of us who claim that we could never do without a physical keyboard who are the dying breed. We may be like those who insisted that nothing could ever take the place of the BB trackwheel.
My guess is that physical keyboards will be around for a while longer, but their star is setting. More people want other things from smartphones, and most of those things involve larger screens. And they want thin phones with solid "build feel". Apple has taught people to want that.
I think Microsoft gets it. They seem to understand that Apple redefined the smartphone, and the current generation of Mango phones reflect that understanding, imitating what's good about the iPhone and adding their own spin on it, including a smooth interface and well thought-out touch screen keyboard. I think their star is rising.
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Saying that physical keyboards aren't dying is absolutely ridiculous. A couple year one of the major selling points for Android was the huge variety of designs with landscape keyboards, portrait keyboards, slide out keyboards, etc and now 99% of them are all full touch. Lots of people would rather have a large screen that they would use all the time than a physical keyboard taking up half of their device that they only use sometimes.
Almost every phone on the market right now is full touch and I see RIM adapting that for BB10. Sure there's going to be people who prefer keyboards, but my prediction is that they'll be out of luck in the upcoming years.
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maybe the thread title should read, "Are Physical Keyboard Users A Dying Breed?"
ubizmo made a very good point. which makes me wonder, will the physical keyboard users switch before phone makers stop making phones with physical keyboard? Or will phone makers stop making phones with physical keyboards forcing physical keyboard users to switch? Which doesn't really matter i suppose. haha.
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At one point I said I'd never go to a touch screen. But honestly now I font think I could go back. I can type faster now than ever. But to answer the OPs original question. No, they will always be around.
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Originally Posted by syb0rg ...honestly now I font think I could go back. I can type faster ... | Faster maybe but what about accurately.
Just kidding, I've made the same type of typo with a keyboard.
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I had an iPhone 3G and hated typing on the screen so much. But here's the thing: back in 2008 very few people uses data on their phones. I only had 100MB data plan on the 3G. Meaning I don't type except for the occasional SMSes.
Then I moved to BB 9700. My whole conception of using a smart phone literally changed overnight. My fingers were in heaven, typing furiously to my cousins on BBM. I thought BB was the best thing ever.
Slowly this changed when hardware problems haunted the 9700 and onwards to the 9800. 10 years of owning cell phones and BB was the only one who gave me grief.
Back to Apple I went. I missed BBM and the LED light but I've been using WhatsApp and it's okay. I can type faster than I was on BB. I think people just haven't given touch screen long enough to adjust. Give it a couple of months. When you are forced to use it, you will adjust. And in this case, for the better.
Of course there are some exception like people who type one handed, though I can't imagine why.
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I type one-handed on a touchscreen often (with Swype).
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Originally Posted by tjioer I had an iPhone 3G and hated typing on the screen so much. But here's the thing: back in 2008 very few people uses data on their phones. I only had 100MB data plan on the 3G. Meaning I don't type except for the occasional SMSes.
Then I moved to BB 9700. My whole conception of using a smart phone literally changed overnight. My fingers were in heaven, typing furiously to my cousins on BBM. I thought BB was the best thing ever.
Slowly this changed when hardware problems haunted the 9700 and onwards to the 9800. 10 years of owning cell phones and BB was the only one who gave me grief.
Back to Apple I went. I missed BBM and the LED light but I've been using WhatsApp and it's okay. I can type faster than I was on BB. I think people just haven't given touch screen long enough to adjust. Give it a couple of months. When you are forced to use it, you will adjust. And in this case, for the better.
Of course there are some exception like people who type one handed, though I can't imagine why. |
But I shouldn't be forced to adjust. I should want to because of the greater efficiency of touch screens and greater ease of use. I don't think that's the case as of now. They are great for playing angry birds, but for things like SMS, Email and BBM I think that physical keyboards still win out in ease of use, speed and accuracy.
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Although the touchscreen is favoured these days, I still see room for qwerty keyboard smartphones, as long as they also adapt. I see a BB Bold in the future with a larger display and higher resolution, probably 2/3 in length as that of current smartphones like the iphone or the galaxy. That would be a sweet spot for consuming media (games/video/photographs) and still enjoy brutalizing the keyboard. =)
The BB Bold has its own personality, so as long as it performs as good as the other smartphones, it will be a notch better, in my opinion.
Oh, btw, typing on the PlayBook in portrait mode resembles the thumb typing on the keyboard BlackBerrrys. I find that entertaining, no shortcuts, though.
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Coming from the Palm 650, 700, 755p the Palm Pre I thought I would never act to a TS kb. A year later and I would hate going back to a physical kb.
This thread reminds me of when I worked in Strategic Planning at Chase Bank and they were getting rid of of "0" option on the customer service line.
Customers complained mightily, but eventually got used to using the voice response unit and online banking to complete their banking needs. Change is hard for some and others just go eith the flow, but we all adapt when necessary.
Or, at least, some of us do.
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Love the physical keyboard. Wouldn't buy a phone without one. Gave virtual keyboard a good go (1yr) and never warmed up to it.
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Originally Posted by Rootbrian I doubt qwerty keyboards will go extinct. I love mine, I can't stand typing on a touch screen. | I agree. I used to have a touch screen phone but had to ditch it. It wasn't responsive enough for me and I was forever hitting delete or return when I was aiming for the M key!
I e-mail a lot from my BlackBerry and being able to touch the buttons is a godsend. I read an interview with a British soccer player who wrote a 50,000 word book on his Blackberry Bold today who said similar something similar. I'm not sure I could write that much on my phone though, my fingers would blister | 
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I dont think the keyboard on smartphones is going anywhere. Rim took the right step in adding a touch only device.
It has nothing to do with evolving. For 100 or so yrs we have been driving cars. Theres just things you can do with keyboard you cant without. I.E shortcuts. They just dont work on a virtual keyboard.
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