- 01-31-13, 08:54 AM #102
"WSJ: Why the delay in the U.S.? Was it due to price negotiations or only lab testing? Are you disappointed with the delay in the U.S.?
Mr. Heins: Carriers are very professional organizations, they know how to separate these two things [pricing negotiations versus lab testing]. They know if they leverage the lab entry process vs. pricing they lose, because they'll be late to market. The pricing negotiations as far as I know from my team are settled already. It's purely the testing procedure. They do the best they can. Would I have loved to see it earlier? Absolutely. Make no mistake everyone's trying to pull the date in—carriers and us collectively."
link to the article - RIM CEO Thorsten Heins on the U.S. Delay and Marketing Costs - WSJ.com
- 01-31-13, 09:07 AM #104
- 01-31-13, 09:08 AM #105
a lot of people and reviews are loviong the fluid and speed of the OS as well as the transitions and the gestures..but still it'll take time for people to love it.. just like the iphone and android!
remember when android first came out.. OH GOSH THAT WAS HORRIBLE! i bought the G1 on launch day on tmobile cause i was visiting the states ....and i sold it after a month!
BB10 does have gaps at the moment.. but what BRAND NEW platform doesn't? doesn't everything work with windows 8? no.. did everything work with jellybean when it first came out? no...
what makes BB10 so different?
The Samsung Galaxy S3 was announced in early MAY and it didn't hit the market in N.A. till June 27th... that's almost 2 months!! i know i waited and bought it on launch day in Canada...
just cause it's Blackberry's come back show doesn't mean people need to have a different perspective.. it's technology.. technology is never perfect.. and you know what?? the People in the States get to skip that initial growing pains.. by the time you guys get it, it'll probably have whatsapp, Skype or all those games .. and you guys will probably have an update or two that has gone by that fixes issues that the Crackberry team mentioned in their review and that Blackberry is working on.
because you guys are going to see and influx of threads complaining about other things like "no ringer in bedside mode" and some integration gaps and bugs.. There is no satisfy anyone whether u have it or not!
Blackberry is gonna stay 3rd no problem.. WP8 is not going to take over.. so with that said i think BB10 will drive people to it over a 6 month period... people are afraid to adopt to a new platform since all the other ones are so stable now with a crazy amount of apps! but once they see that the apps are coming and the phone is solid and FUN to use people will start buying it more and more..
and before u ask .. yes i have seen and used it and it's very fun to use.. i peek just for the **** of it!
- 01-31-13, 11:09 AM #106
- 01-31-13, 11:18 AM #107
Lesson learnt: You cannot please everyone, not at the same time, that is.
What bugs me is that people are throwing around the word "Delayed", that would alone will kill BlackBerry. It's not delayed at all. It's still within the Q1 timeframe and we all knew the Q10 would release shortly after the Z10.
Everyone one CB expected too much from the launch (myself included)In BBRY we trust
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01-31-13, 12:11 PM #109
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I agree with those that say it's too early to judge how things will end up.....
...Everyone would be well served to remember that HULU was advertised on / for Playbook.
...****, I watched a RIM rep demo HULU on his Playbook pre-launch.
The real test will be two months after the product is available - will Skype still function? Will it be like Hulu?
...The BB10 looks so far like a killer phone - I'm liking EVERYTHING I see so far.
...RIM knows better than any of us how far into the soup they are.
...And I think they have the right guy in the Captains chair to navigate the company through the bad water.
May or June will be the time we know if RIM will rise from near ash or not......
....It's not going to be that bad waiting for March or April to see the phones in the stores.
....But yeah, I was really hoping I would be wrong and could see the device in Sprint mid Feb!As of 2.20.2015 I'm packing a Blackberry Classic - so far so good!
- 01-31-13, 04:19 PM #110
everyone wants netflix on phones bc it is so awesome... well, how long did CANADA wait for netflix?
game. set. match.
Stop complaining. I cold easily be complaining that I have to wait until Feb 5th when UK got it already...
and yea... i never got why people are saying EIGHT weeks... its ONE month, 4 weeks ...
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01-31-13, 04:28 PM #111"Every tradition constructed by human beings is subject to ossified arrogance, blinding pomposity and outright bigotry. That is true not just for Judaism, not just for Christianity, not just for Islam, it is true for secular traditions as well."
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01-31-13, 05:17 PM #113
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In nearly every business sector that does business globally, the US is the key market. We're the hub of product perceptions and consumer impressions.
My state alone has more people than Canada and a larger economy, to boot. If we use Netflix as an example, which market do you think they're going to enter into first? California or Canada?
California is the obvious choice between the two (minus the fact that Netflix is located in San Jose)- Netflix had to overhaul their entire streaming catalog to accommodate Canadian ISP data caps. Canada isn't the "tech capital" of the world- San Jose (which happens to be in California) is.
If you want to talk about market penetration, the areas where markets are strongest are more important. Stronger markets mean the market perceptions of products have a far wider reach. Do you think that if a revolutionary, new, gamechanging product were to be brought to market in Nunavut that anyone in BC or Ontario would necessarily care? No, because Nunavut's market influence is marginal at best.
- 01-31-13, 06:21 PM #115
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01-31-13, 06:26 PM #116
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- 01-31-13, 07:01 PM #117
- 01-31-13, 07:39 PM #120
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01-31-13, 08:08 PM #121
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Regarding the title of this thread, not ungrateful, dissappointed. Blackberry doesn't deserve any gratitude from me. They just want my money. Not a problem because I want their product. This is business, not charity. No gratitude required. Now, if they told me they would give me a Z10 in March I would be extremely grateful. To those who find enjoyment in the fact that we Americans will have to wait, I say have fun. We all need something to help us feel good about ourselves.
- 01-31-13, 09:28 PM #122"It doesn't mean that much to me to mean that much to you"
- 01-31-13, 09:50 PM #123
You guys are really ungrateful
Sent from my BlackBerry by Choice using TapatalkI waited...It launched...Im still waiting...
- 01-31-13, 09:58 PM #124
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