Word to developers, please implement an Off buton
- As I recently discovered in an app I just bought (Photo X Pro) you can easily put an Off button on your app's home screen to turn the app off directly instead of swiping up and pressing X. That is great for multitasking but in some cases you want to turn the app off directly and this would save us a few steps.
What do you say? Can you do it?
Posted using CrackBerry App on BB10Bold_until_Hybrid_Comes and ubizmo like this.02-16-13 04:00 AMLike 2 - Bold_until_Hybrid_ComesWaterloo's FinestSo essentially close the app without the active frame state. Open app then one action and it takes you right to homescreen...like voice control or closing a folder. Swipe up and its gone.02-16-13 04:54 AMLike 0
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- Bold_until_Hybrid_ComesWaterloo's FinestI totally agree that the functionality should be available for some things.anon(4018671) likes this.02-16-13 05:20 AMLike 1
- I can agree that for many apps there is not real need to have them as ActiveFrame or anything...
Perhaps we can tap into the API used for the Voice Control App... when in the app - swipe up - and the app flips away...
Or even better, as the OS evolve - there might be a per-app setting - where this close/ActiveFrame can be controlled.Bold_until_Hybrid_Comes likes this.02-16-13 05:45 AMLike 1 - The only problem I have with a single "button" control is the high probability of accidentally killing the app altogether - especially when there is work in progress that might be lost. A two swipe-up procedure like we have in the PlayBook or a swipe up and then tap on the X seems to be a good way to prevent unintended closure of an app.02-16-13 06:50 AMLike 0
- The only problem I have with a single "button" control is the high probability of accidentally killing the app altogether - especially when there is work in progress that might be lost. A two swipe-up procedure like we have in the PlayBook or a swipe up and then tap on the X seems to be a good way to prevent unintended closure of an app.
Posted using CrackBerry App on BB1002-16-13 06:59 AMLike 0 - The only problem I have with a single "button" control is the high probability of accidentally killing the app altogether - especially when there is work in progress that might be lost. A two swipe-up procedure like we have in the PlayBook or a swipe up and then tap on the X seems to be a good way to prevent unintended closure of an app.
Posted using CrackBerry App on BB1002-16-13 08:46 AMLike 0 - Closing an app from within itself runs contrary to the design guidelines laid out for BB10. It's a possible but discoureaged practice. In fact you shouldn't need to close your apps. By default apps do not run in the background (while in an active frame), unless they specifically request to do so. Hence if you have an app that doesn't do anything in the background, it should be enough to swipe up and and leave it be and switch to your next app. Once there is no more memory or app limit is reached it will be automatically closed. On the other hand if you have an app that does stuff while in the background, you would want to leave it open after swiping up.
Obviously these are relative things and some people will like them differently than others. However it's usually more important to have consistency so people automatically know how to use the next app knowing the previous one, than tackling all corner cases.02-16-13 11:20 AMLike 4 - Well I like having the off button there, if I'm done with an app and I'm back on its home screen it would be much faster to hit the off button instead of swiping upper and tap the little x.
However, I don't want it as an alternative to swiping up, just as an extra option.Tkarps likes this.02-17-13 04:20 AMLike 1 - Closing an app from within itself runs contrary to the design guidelines laid out for BB10. It's a possible but discoureaged practice. In fact you shouldn't need to close your apps. By default apps do not run in the background (while in an active frame), unless they specifically request to do so. Hence if you have an app that doesn't do anything in the background, it should be enough to swipe up and and leave it be and switch to your next app. Once there is no more memory or app limit is reached it will be automatically closed. On the other hand if you have an app that does stuff while in the background, you would want to leave it open after swiping up.
Obviously these are relative things and some people will like them differently than others. However it's usually more important to have consistency so people automatically know how to use the next app knowing the previous one, than tackling all corner cases.Last edited by BlackQtCoder; 02-17-13 at 07:50 AM.
v17al likes this.02-17-13 07:34 AMLike 1 - Closing an app from within itself runs contrary to the design guidelines laid out for BB10. It's a possible but discoureaged practice. In fact you shouldn't need to close your apps. By default apps do not run in the background (while in an active frame), unless they specifically request to do so. Hence if you have an app that doesn't do anything in the background, it should be enough to swipe up and and leave it be and switch to your next app. Once there is no more memory or app limit is reached it will be automatically closed. On the other hand if you have an app that does stuff while in the background, you would want to leave it open after swiping up.
Obviously these are relative things and some people will like them differently than others. However it's usually more important to have consistency so people automatically know how to use the next app knowing the previous one, than tackling all corner cases.
Period.
Except for apps that need to stay running for notification purposes, but those should be the exception.
I see no consistancy issues with the idea of a "close" button. We aren't stupid. That's more of the way Apple thinks.belfastdispatcher and Tkarps like this.02-17-13 10:43 AMLike 2 - As I recently discovered in an app I just bought (Photo X Pro) you can easily put an Off button on your app's home screen to turn the app off directly instead of swiping up and pressing X. That is great for multitasking but in some cases you want to turn the app off directly and this would save us a few steps.
What do you say? Can you do it?
Posted using CrackBerry App on BB10
Should developers do it? Of course not.
"Summarizing the philosophy behind BB10, Bhardwaj said, "It's about moving between applications, not about home buttons, opening and closing�This is real time true multitasking. In and out does not exist on BlackBerry 10."
"We're not moving in and out of applications," Heins said.
BB10 is designed to manage apps without the need for users to worry about an overt "kill app" action. Moving to a new app is all that is necessary if the developer has done his job correctly.
Support developers who write well behaved apps. The platform will be much stronger because of this.02-17-13 11:18 AMLike 4 - Can developers do it? Of course.
Should developers do it? Of course not.
"Summarizing the philosophy behind BB10, Bhardwaj said, "It's about moving between applications, not about home buttons, opening and closing�This is real time true multitasking. In and out does not exist on BlackBerry 10."
"We're not moving in and out of applications," Heins said.
BB10 is designed to manage apps without the need for users to worry about an overt "kill app" action. Moving to a new app is all that is necessary if the developer has done his job correctly.
Support developers who write well behaved apps. The platform will be much stronger because of this.
Posted via CB1002-17-13 12:00 PMLike 0 - I completely disagree, we are blackberry people remember? And BB10 was built for BlackBerry People, I need and want to do things fast and have full control. If I want an app to stay open in the background I want it fully active and if I want to close it I want it fully closed, I certainly don't want it to linger in the background.
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Sent from my BlackBerry 9930 using TapatalkBlackQtCoder likes this.02-17-13 12:02 PMLike 1 - Can developers do it? Of course.
Should developers do it? Of course not.
"Summarizing the philosophy behind BB10, Bhardwaj said, "It's about moving between applications, not about home buttons, opening and closing…This is real time true multitasking. In and out does not exist on BlackBerry 10."
"We're not moving in and out of applications," Heins said.
BB10 is designed to manage apps without the need for users to worry about an overt "kill app" action. Moving to a new app is all that is necessary if the developer has done his job correctly.
Support developers who write well behaved apps. The platform will be much stronger because of this.
I can't say it better.
One more thing, joeldf ...
That's more of the way Apple thinks.
And remember please ... Apple did not invent anything.Last edited by BlackQtCoder; 02-17-13 at 05:30 PM.
v17al likes this.02-17-13 12:02 PMLike 1 -
I want a tool for my needs though and BB10 was promised for BlackBerry People, not for a granny to be able to use it.
Posted via CB1002-17-13 12:11 PMLike 0 - I'm confused. I thought gestures rather then buttons are the key to BB10
Maybe a kill gesture instead is needed. pinch from top right and bottom left together to kill an app without going to active frame02-17-13 12:16 PMLike 0 -
Posted via CB1002-17-13 12:19 PMLike 0 -
It's just that Blackberry has kind of built BB10 to be completely gesture based. It may be taken as backtracking if they start implementing buttons. you know what i mean, there certain sites out there that would twist anything blackberry does into a bad thing.
But just to state i do think its a good idea, to have a kill option as well as a minimise option02-17-13 12:25 PMLike 0 -
- Bold_until_Hybrid_ComesWaterloo's FinestI understand what you're saying and i agree with your reasons.
It's just that Blackberry has kind of built BB10 to be completely gesture based. It may be taken as backtracking if they start implementing buttons. you know what i mean, there certain sites out there that would twist anything blackberry does into a bad thing.
But just to state i do think its a good idea, to have a kill option as well as a minimise option02-17-13 12:27 PMLike 0 -
Posted via CB10Bold_until_Hybrid_Comes likes this.02-17-13 12:35 PMLike 1 - Very curious ... Blackberry people dont want that Blackberry developers follow the Blackberry guidelines ... Interesting ... I will check with my psychoanalyst02-17-13 12:37 PMLike 0
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