- 01-13-13, 09:37 PM #76
As someone who went from a Torch to a HTC Desire Z to a HTC TITAN, I can say that generally speaking you should be able to adapt to the touch keyboard. But then again, there's something about the physical keyboard that would be nice to see again. Of course, I'll want my slider to run on Windows Phone 8, for the full ecosystem integration. However gotta admit, a decent BlackBerry slider could very well draw me back.
- 01-14-13, 07:22 AM #79
I think we will see one at some point in 2014 personally.
- 01-14-13, 08:08 AM #80
- 01-14-13, 11:16 AM #81
I think RIM has reached a decent compromise with the Bold Z10, though I wish the screen was bigger. If RIM survives the BB10 transition and launches an upgraded model next year, I hope they'll be able to either make a slider or make the Bold with a 3.5 inch screen.
- 01-14-13, 12:40 PM #83
- 01-14-13, 12:45 PM #84
How about a portable dock that will connect to the microUSB on the BB10, and includes an additional battery and a sliding keyboard? Yes, it would more than double the weight of the device, but the user would get a physical keyboard AND, it would isolate all the mechanical complexity.
- 01-14-13, 06:39 PM #86
- 01-14-13, 07:45 PM #87
The new BB 10 OS is optimized for touch-screen and so it should look brilliant on a slider form factor.
- 01-15-13, 12:58 AM #88
Why we need a BlackBerry 10 slider
Track pad. I'll miss that too. Think full touch is for lazy people? Here I am kicked back on the couch with a vodka tonic tapping with tapatalk. Got my right arm behind my head. To click post I simply track pad down with my left thumb. If relegated to touch only, I'd have to bring the phone to my elbow or nose to post.
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I wonder if the N-series will not have landscape feature like the 9900, that would be stupid if it doesn't, and that's why i keep saying that it should have at least 3.5 screen like the TK concept one.
- 01-16-13, 03:14 PM #91
We'll miss our trackpads, many of us, no matter how great the screen and OS. Possibly, RIM will bring it back on occasion.
I'd love a slider. One with a kepad the width of my 9930, and void the annoying raised edges on the current Torch. And give me a trackpad, cause I'm greedy.
- 01-16-13, 03:53 PM #95
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- 01-17-13, 10:10 AM #97
Given the difficulties in ways to alter the qwerty design when you actually have to be technically feasible, maybe we won't see yearly updates to the main qwerty model and instead we get a qwerty this year and then in a year's time we get a slider with the qwerty remaining on sale.
- 01-17-13, 10:38 AM #98
Both the 9800 and the 9810 were for me, and I suspect a number of other BB users, a reasonably satisfactory solution to wanting a full touchscreen experience but still wanting to have a BB keyboard.
After 2 1/2 years with this model, I for one could not bring myself to go back to the half-screen experience of the 9900 style X10 (or whatever it is they're calling it this week). Which leaves me in strictly full touch land.
Someone once posted here a few years ago (when CB was a kinder, gentler place) words to these effect: "If RIM ever forced me to choose an all-touch device, I might as well go with an iPhone."
I'm not necessarily going to choose an iPhone, but I still have no idea if I'm going to stick with BB when my upgrade rolls around in a couple of months. All bets are off at this point. That might not be the case if RIM would have made a slider available.
- 01-17-13, 01:00 PM #99
So, right off the bat, the target market for sliders has already declined.
Now, I'm in a unique position to comment on this myself. I had a 9800 for a year, then a 9900 (my current daily driver), and topped off with a Dev Alpha, so I've been fortunate to get pretty much all the experiences. We'll forget about how the technology improved through these generations, I'll just pass along my own impressions.
Loved the 9800; yes, it's a nice, compact footprint (at least if you ignore thickness). Heavy, though, and I found the physical keyboard a little narrow. Weight might or might not matter to everyone, but I can tell you that if you put a 9800/9810 in a shirt pocket, you FEEL it there. Not to mention, if you carried the phone in a shirt pocket, it was smooth enough and heavy enough that it was EXTREMELY prone to falls. And, given that extra weight and complex mechanism, it was prone to damage.
Moved to a 9900, and honestly never looked back. For one thing, while the screen is smaller, it's higher resolution and I found it made for a better viewing experience. Something else: with the 9800 I'd found myself switching between portrait and landscape on an almost minute-to-minute basis; it was actually a better experience using a phone that only really HAD one orientation. Add to that the lighter weight and thinner body and I found it a much better experience as a PHONE (iffy EDOF camera notwithstanding).
I realize how long-winded this is sounding, and I'm well aware that my experience shouldn't stand in for yours or anyone else's. The point I'm getting at is that I loved the idea of sliders; I'm a big fan of devices that seem to give you the best of two worlds. There's even a kind of a Star Trek communicator nerd appeal to them. But once I lived with one for a while and realized what kinds of compromises I had to live with, I became a little less enthralled.
Finally, we come to BB10. Incredible screen, and I'll admit that I'd much rather have the full-screen experience than not. Very, very different virtual keyboard experience, to the point that it almost feels like a completely new input technology. No, not as precise as a physical keyboard, but for many users they'll actually be able to type faster. It won't convert all physical-keyboard users, but it will convert a number of them, and it will be enough to take away even more of the potential slider market.
Honestly, it's hard to see the numbers being there. Sorry.
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