- CrackBerry Addict
12-05-12, 07:08 AM #29
- 587 Posts
I agree that RIM just needs to get BB10 on two solid phones out there and start to recover before they consider other models. I feel torn between L or N series and want to know what the Alpha users think. I have a PlayBook, and never miss the trackpad or want a physical keyboard (much). But when I think of having a phone without those things I wonder what I will think.
- CrackBerry Newbie
12-16-12, 08:11 AM #32
- 6 Posts
I have had a 9800 Torch since very soon after the release date and still love it. I was really excited when I saw images of the Milan on the net. I hope there will soon be mention of a slider being released or I may find myself looking at other manufacturers. Can anyone clarify whether a slider is somewhere on the horizon?
- 12-16-12, 08:28 AM #33
- 12-16-12, 09:07 AM #34
- 12-16-12, 02:45 PM #36
I will get the L, and the N, and the slider when it comes out. I really want a slider though. The form factor and flexibility to me is the right combo. I don't care for thinness. I am surprised that people care about that - the chunkiness of my BB9810 suits me just fine. Too thin is no good either - my mom's SG3 feels like you can snap it in half.
- 12-16-12, 03:30 PM #37
I am quite glad that the l-series seems to be a similar sort of thickness to a 9900 rather than chasing to be the thinnest option out there as like you I find some of the new ones too thin to be comfortable in your hand.
- CrackBerry Abuser
12-16-12, 04:51 PM #38
- 281 Posts
Why we need a BlackBerry 10 slider
RIM has to take into acount the obsession with thin and slim. A Brick will not float on the market. Closest to my ideal phone is a Note 2 with a 6400 mAh Mugen battery. A BlackBerry slider with a bIg screen(4.6" atleast or 4.8") would be ideal with optional heavy duty battery.
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- 12-16-12, 09:35 PM #40
Again, sliders are more expensive to design, harder to produce, and have a multitude of things that can go wrong. A slider version of the L-series would likely have to carry a 40% premium over the full-touch version to make it worth RIM'S while.
And the new software keyboard is honestly so good that it will win over many potential slider users. Really.
- CrackBerry Master
12-16-12, 11:13 PM #41
- 1,035 Posts
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What Starck says rings true.
- CrackBerry Abuser
12-16-12, 11:29 PM #42
- 373 Posts
I love my 9800 and cant see myself going to anything with a smaller screen. When I upgraded over two years ago the 9800 was fairly new with a bigger screen and a full keyboard, the best of both worlds and I really hope I can have a slider BB10 phone. I have not yet tried a os7 device, since they have a smaller screen and the 9810 looked very similar to the 9800 so I didn't want to spend money for just that.
A big touch screen and full keyboard is my dream device
- 12-17-12, 12:37 AM #43
Now, if I needed a touch keyboard, I'd just go with an N-series. Yes, I'd lose some screen real estate, but with a sufficiently sharp display, that may not be an issue.
The market for a slider is this: a user who NEEDS a full screen size and NEEDS a physical keyboard, and NEEDS both of them enough that they are willing to compromise on weight and willing to accept considerably higher potential for breakage (both because of the added weight and potential mechanism breakage in the event of a fall). Oh, and they must also be willing to pay more.
The thing is, with BB10 this market will shrink. The virtual keyboard is honestly good enough that a great many potential slider buyers will say "hmmm, this is good enough, AND I get a lighter phone to boot".
The new keyboard will honestly convert many (no, not all) users who currently HATE virtual keyboards. It may actually be good enough to pull over iPhone users just on its own merits.
- 12-17-12, 07:27 AM #44
- 12-17-12, 10:17 AM #46
- CrackBerry Addict
12-17-12, 11:34 AM #48
- 604 Posts
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I also have never liked the traditional BB Bold/Curve design with a keyboard taking up half the phone face. I have becomed extremely used to a full touch screen with a sliding keyboard.
As for the build quality, my 9810 has had severe abuse from dropping in snow (several times), being left in a frozen service truck several times, dropped, kicked, sat on, etc. The slider mechanism works fine, the phone works fine, the speaker is getting a little crackly, but still functions after all this abuse. They are a tough design.
Honestly, if BB is phasing out a slider design, I will be looking at other phones that have this. It was the only reason I considered BlackBerry in the first place.
Last edited by vorpalz; 12-17-12 at 12:52 PM.
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