- 12-05-12, 06:15 AM #201
Anyone who has ever done any writing knows full well that to take two sentences without providing context proves nothing.
I can say that BB owns the developing market with entry Curve series and that is true.
I can also sell that BB doesn't sell well in North America and that is also true.
There is no contradiction there.
Kindly link to where I appear to be at odds, in your estimation...
EDIT: I found the post where you picked two sentences without giving the context
My second point is that carriers push what sells, and in North America, where AT&T sells, BB doesn't sell as well as iPhone or Android. Therefore my second comment you quoted, "BB doesn't sell" is also true within the context of my statement.
So see, it's all about context. And data. If you can find data that states that BB does better in North America than Apple and Android then I would love it. Really, I would love it. But then it wouldn't make sense why when you go into a VZW store, the largest carrier in the U.S., the reps there push iPhones and Android down your throat and you have to TELL them "no, I really do want a 9370 and not a RAZR Max" which is EXACTLY what happened to me.
Or why when asking about the Playbook they simply say "we don't sell that here...let me show you an iPad" which was exactly what happened to me.
Carriers push what sells.
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I've got an upgrade on Dec 21....options....use the upgrade on BB10, buy the BB10 outright, keep the upgrade for the iPhone 5S or keep the upgrade for the Note 3 or keep the upgrade for a Lumia 920 or keep the upgrade for a redSamsung SGIII....
That's my dilemma....
If I didn't have a whole house renovation going on, I'd get them all....
(we've hijacked the thread...we'll get in trouble....we need to stop....)
- CrackBerry Genius
12-05-12, 01:30 PM #209
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All I know is this is the last chance I'm giving RIM. I've never owned a iPhone, any android, or a WP device but I'm ready for something new. If BB10 has severely cut corners like what happened on the PlayBook, then I'm gone for good. I cant/won't be like others and say BB's offer the best experience when I haven't tried what's out there
- 12-05-12, 01:56 PM #210
Who needs instagram?
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- CrackBerry Genius
12-05-12, 05:32 PM #211
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Some people on this forum swear by RIM like it's a religion. I don't understand it. In the end, like u said, it's just a phone.
I like the BB experience but it's been lacking for long enough. I'm ready for something new. Hopefully BB10 has some surprises in store
- 12-06-12, 04:30 AM #216
Or I can take a pic of my six month old golden retriever puppy on an outing to a park, laying on golden leaves, add a filter to really bring out the golds, and post it to FB, Twitter, and Instagram contacts from the golden retriever group I belong to who are not part of my FB friends....all without skipping a beat....
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I'm not here to promote any app. I understand it would be a nice bonus if BB had Instagram. I only posted it because it brings the same functionality to current Blackberries and the future BB10 that Instagram for some unknown reason have since refused to bring to Blackberry. If they can do it the why not Instagram???? For me.. once twitter applies it's photo editing capabilities to it's apps.. Instagram is gonna be well hurt I predict. They're already fighting like we can see with Instagram turning off support for Twitter cards just yesterday. Instagram is really only popular bcos twitter allowed it to interact with it and thus gave it really good publicity. The frames and photo editing was what people loved about it but now there are loads of apps like PicMix that do the same so it's not a selling point anymore. You may argue that it's the social network part but PicMix also is a social network thts linked to FB and Twitter too. I agree Instagram has a very large user base but that was only facilitated bcos you could share it's pics with Twitter which is where people want to show their pictures. Even if Instagram came to BB10.. chances are i'll stick with twitter and just post direct to it and facebook. I don't need a 3rd social network to post pics. I've been using PicMix for a while and my pics are kept private on there. It's FB and Twitter where I actually want to share them. Note also that this app is now on Android and soon IOS (if not already). The ratings on Google Play is 4.5 out of 5 stars. It's growing..
Just my opinion.
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- 12-06-12, 06:44 AM #218
Who needs instagram?
You have to purchase the full version of picmix in order to get all the features. Instagram is > picmix by far. It has a larger user base (which is extremely important for social networking) and its free.
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I don't see how its better by far. PicMix is free on BlackBerry. Unless you want some other frames that so far i find i don't need then you pay using some kind of credit. The only advantage i can see that Instagram has is the userbase. That was made popular thanks to Twitter.
Just to set the record straight.. Instagram is a lovely app.. but PicMix IMHO offers the same. Once Twitter hooks up the filters within it's official app, they can both kiss my a...
- 12-06-12, 07:49 AM #220
Who needs instagram?
What is the user base on PicMix? How many users? How many platforms? How do you share with people not on your FB or Twitter but who belong to groups and networks you belong to?
***just found it in the App Store. So it works on iPhone.
It provides more robust tools that Instagram. However, and it's a big however, haven't found the network aspect of Instagram.
So, for my use, until it offers the network that Instagram offers, I prefer Instagram. PicMix does half the job I want.
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- 12-06-12, 08:47 AM #221
You're all right. I'm not arguing for PicMix or Instagram. I was more surprised that Instagram has adamantly refused to support BB when it's so obvious they could have. They had absolutely nothing to lose so why they made that decision baffles me. The app was free.. you had BB users yearning for it but yet did nothing. I know 50 million people might disagree with me but I for one cannot wait for twitter to get its own filters. Once done, even if Instagram exists for BB10 I would not find any use for it and would more than likely just stay with twitter and FB (Even though they it now owns Instagram). Maybe I'm just moaning but i see it like they played a big part in hurting BlackBerry (despite BlackBerry's own internal mistakes). I hope Instagram fails as a site on it's own. They're lucky FB bought them.
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