[quickread]

Hi there, I am curious about a question, WHEN was the first black berry device WITH a front facing camera released?

(if possible a model num would be good).

Thanks.

[soren203]

Currently there are no blackberries with a front facing camera. Bb10 will be the first.

[byul]

Not any that i have seen, but who knows in the RIMpire that has it.
Could be top secret like area51 lol.

[VeGiTo]

First one is the BlackBerry PlayBook.

[grahamf]

First one is the BlackBerry PlayBook.

Pretty much yeah.

I don't think it has a model number. maybe PB16/PB32/PB64.

[MADBRADNYC]

Hi there, I am curious about a question, WHEN was the first black berry device WITH a front facing camera released?

(if possible a model num would be good).

Thanks.

They haven't... But, they will with BB10 later this year.
The PlayBook has one, but it is not (commonly referred to as) a BlackBerry device though.

[JR A]

They haven't... But, they will with BB10 later this year.
The PlayBook has one, but it is not a BlackBerry device though.

BB phone, no.

BB device, yes.

[MADBRADNYC]

BB phone, no.

BB device, yes.

Why be confused??
To stay on topic of this thread, the OP asked about BlackBerry Devices and asked for model numbers.
Obviously, this means BlackBerry Handheld Devices as there are no model numbers for the PlayBook per se'.

Yes, it is called the BlackBerry PlayBook.
But who do you know (including RIM) that calls their PlayBook a BlackBerry Device?

Even those who know nothing about it calls it a BlackBerry PlayBook.
Not a BlackBerry Device.
That term is uniformly used to represent handheld devices.

Semantics game?

[lnichols]

They haven't... But, they will with BB10 later this year.
The PlayBook has one, but it is not a BlackBerry device though.

My Playbook Says Blackberry right on the front of it and looks like a larger version of those BB10 Alphas. And I call my phone a Blackberry Bold, not a Blackberry device.

[MADBRADNYC]

My Playbook Says Blackberry right on the front of it and looks like a larger version of those BB10 Alphas.

Read my previous post.
Would you actually say you disagree with credibility?

[lnichols]

Read my previous post.
Would you actually say you disagree?

Yep I disagree. Device to me implies anything with Blackberry branding: phones, tablets, audio gateways, etc.

[MADBRADNYC]

Yep I disagree. Device to me implies anything with Blackberry branding: phones, tablets, audio gateways, etc.

OK. I can't take you or that statement seriously when it comes to BlackBerry Devices...
But you're entitled to your opinion.

[Michelle Haag]

Yep I disagree. Device to me implies anything with Blackberry branding: phones, tablets, audio gateways, etc.

Agreed.

BlackBerry device = umbrella for all the things with BlackBerry on it
BlackBerry tablet = Playbook
BlackBerry smartphones = phones

[MADBRADNYC]

As I said. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

I already stated in a previous post, yes, that is technically correct.

That is a semantics game IMO. I have yet to see out of almost 3 million users here on CB refer to the PlayBook as a BlackBerry Device (including RIM).

That is not how people commonly refer to the PlayBook.

I'm also sure that the OP was asking about Handheld devices.

[Justthecrack]

Oddity:

BB phones (front camera-less) have Skype (for calls)
BB tablet (3MP front camera) does not.

[TheScionicMan]

So the word "device" now means "handheld device"? That's the case you're making?

[jhimmel]

Yep I disagree. Device to me implies anything with Blackberry branding: phones, tablets, audio gateways, etc.

Agreed. Actually, to say that it is not a Blackberry device would seem strange to me. "Device" is non-specific for a reason.

[Morty2264]

Not any that i have seen, but who knows in the RIMpire that has it.
Could be top secret like area51 lol.

And there'll be snipers and helicopters ready to shoot intruders who want to get a first glimpse at the new device!

[MADBRADNYC]

So the word "device" now means "handheld device"? That's the case you're making?

Please read my previous statement.

Why be confused??
To stay on topic of this thread, the OP asked about BlackBerry Devices and asked for model numbers.
Obviously, this means BlackBerry Handheld Devices as there are no model numbers for the PlayBook per se'.

[MADBRADNYC]

Agreed. Actually, to say that it is not a Blackberry device would seem strange to me. "Device" is non-specific for a reason.

Please read the thread totally in context.
I agree that everything with a BlackBerry logo is a BlackBerry device per se'.
Not sure how many times I have to say that.

I just have not found anyone, or any thread that refers to the unit as such.
That is not how the PlayBook is commonly referred to as. Do you disagree?
However, "device" is synonymous with handheld devices as seen many instances here in the forums.

BlackBerry PlayBook, or PlayBook is what I see in page after page of forum posts or blogs.

Semantics, that's all.

[Mattma43]

Wondering why this is two pages long. The OP has not posted to the thread since asking the question.

[Masahiro]

Wondering why this is two pages long. The OP has not posted to the thread since asking the question.

Yeah. It almost seems like the op is trolling us.

[lnichols]

OK. I can't take you or that statement seriously when it comes to BlackBerry Devices...
But you're entitled to your opinion.

Wow OK. Your entitled to your opinion too. Seems like people are agreeing more with my non-serious statement though.

[albee 1]

Holy crap, I'm sorry I even looked at this thread.

[Engire]

They haven't... But, they will with BB10 later this year.
The PlayBook has one, but it is not a BlackBerry device though.

I believe this whole statement to be factually incorrect to be honest. It should read "BlackBerry Playbook released in 2011 with no known model number". By playing the semantic game you are just continuing the OP's confusion. Unless of course the Playbook was made by E-machines, Gateway or Dell.