- Today I went to a Verizon store to check out the z30, since they are the only carrier in the US that offers this phone.
So I walk in and ask if they have a z30 and the woman at the front had no idea what that was and didn't even know they carry it. She said she will look in the back. As I'm standing around looking at the new phones I went to the corner and there is a display for "simple phones " you know, like flip phones, brick phones etc. The phone farthest to the right was the z10. I just don't understand how this is a "simple " phone. The z10 is easily the best phone I've ever used. And I'm coming from an iPhone 4, Note 3 and even the new Jolla phone from Finland.
So I finally get the z30 and the sales person said something along the lines : "why do you even want a blackberry? " I asked if he has used BlackBerry 10 and he said no. Figures. It made me feel alienated the way he looked and talked to me during the "demo" I felt like I was trying to sell the phone to him not vise versa!
Oh, and the z30 want even set up so the only thing I could try was the activation wifi screen.
No wonder BlackBerry is having a hard time financially when customers are shunned away like this.
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Attachment 26386404-17-14 04:13 PMLike 5 - The Z10 got relegated to the kids table along with the other slow selling feature phones.
Carriers aren't going to push phones that don't sell and BB isn't going to spend money on advertising support and sending their reps to stores cause the consumer market is dead to them at the moment, ergo dual whammy.04-17-14 04:17 PMLike 5 - It's definitely a catch 22 situation. Carriers aren't going to push what won't sell, and phones won't sell without carrier support.04-17-14 04:20 PMLike 9
- I'll say what I always say in these kind of threads. I think that if BlackBerry took the time to market it's only flagship which is only on One carrier and taught reps at stores how to use it, they could have made more sales.
This is even in favor of BlackBerry because they only have one carrier to work with. If BlackBerry isn't making an effort why should Verizon go out of its way?
Posted via the Android CrackBerry App!04-17-14 04:42 PMLike 9 - Exactly. Can't understand why BB10 devices can't sell more? I also have been hit with that "why do you still have a BlackBerry" question. Once I show them my BB10 device they are amazed and had no clue. More or less impressed. My wife has a Galaxy but will be getting a Q10 in a few months. She really likes the device. My daughter wants a Q5 but just might get a Q10 as well. Those that try and bash are truly speaking from pure inexperience.04-17-14 05:01 PMLike 0
- It's his own personal conspiracy theory: that the US government is somehow trying to prevent US citizens from owning BB phones, because they're "too secure." This despite the fact that consumers aren't on BES, so their communications really aren't any more secure than on any other phone, and despite the fact that sales and carrier support are equally poor, or nearly so, for BB10 on carriers all over the world.
He can't accept that the problem lies with BB, and all of the competitive areas where the BB10 ecosystem is lacking.04-17-14 05:04 PMLike 8 - It's his own personal conspiracy theory: that the US government is somehow trying to prevent US citizens from owning BB phones, because they're "too secure." This despite the fact that consumers aren't on BES, so their communications really aren't any more secure than on any other phone, and despite the fact that sales and carrier support are equally poor, or nearly so, for BB10 on carriers all over the world.
He can't accept that the problem lies with BB, and all of the competitive areas where the BB10 ecosystem is lacking.04-17-14 05:09 PMLike 4 - It was BlackBerry's job to advertise the device, tell the world that it was new and different, and even run some ads that show how fluid BB10 is and show off some gestures. Instead they blew three million on a Super Bowl ad that showed what the phone couldn't do, and no other advertising or awareness after that. BlackBerry has gotten out of the BB10 rollout a result that is equal to the effort they out into it. People really need to start holding BlackBerry to the same high standard that they set for the carriers here.
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- Exactly. Can't understand why BB10 devices can't sell more? I also have been hit with that "why do you still have a BlackBerry" question. Once I show them my BB10 device they are amazed and had no clue. More or less impressed. My wife has a Galaxy but will be getting a Q10 in a few months. She really likes the device. My daughter wants a Q5 but just might get a Q10 as well. Those that try and bash are truly speaking from pure inexperience.04-17-14 05:26 PMLike 5
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Posted via CB10cwalt2166 and Paisley Pirate like this.04-17-14 05:30 PMLike 2 - It's his own personal conspiracy theory: that the US government is somehow trying to prevent US citizens from owning BB phones, because they're "too secure." This despite the fact that consumers aren't on BES, so their communications really aren't any more secure than on any other phone, and despite the fact that sales and carrier support are equally poor, or nearly so, for BB10 on carriers all over the world.
He can't accept that the problem lies with BB, and all of the competitive areas where the BB10 ecosystem is lacking.
Posted Via my Kick @ss BlackBerry Z3004-17-14 05:31 PMLike 0 -
But, again, we're talking about CONSUMERS here, who won't be on BES anyway, so why would NSA care if you used a BB or iPhone or Android?04-17-14 05:34 PMLike 3 - I'll say what I always say in these kind of threads. I think that if BlackBerry took the time to market it's only flagship which is only on One carrier and taught reps at stores how to use it, they could have made more sales.
This is even in favor of BlackBerry because they only have one carrier to work with. If BlackBerry isn't making an effort why should Verizon go out of its way?
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Meanwhile with each passing day more customers are lost and the brand is damaged a little more.04-17-14 05:36 PMLike 0 - Sure. But if my opinion was that the moon was made of green cheese and that Mars was populated by little green men with antennae on their heads, despite having my "right" to that opinion, it would still leave me open to ridicule. Having a right to an opinion doesn't mean that others have to respect the opinion itself, even if they respect a person's right to HAVE the opinion.04-17-14 05:36 PMLike 4
- True RH1Pearl. Imagine if we had no choice, but one or two. We, and when I say we, I mean us as consumers, need the mobile market to remain diverse. There is room for everyone. The employees of these carriers need to help people find mobile solutions that is best and right for them. For me it has been BlackBerry for my phone. I did my research (did they?), I know what I want...my decision, my money. Don't try to bait me.acovey likes this.04-17-14 05:39 PMLike 1
- Sure. But if my opinion was that the moon was made of green cheese and that Mars was populated by little green men with antennae on their heads, despite having my "right" to that opinion, it would still leave me open to ridicule. Having a right to an opinion doesn't mean that others have to respect the opinion itself, even if they respect a person's right to HAVE the opinion.
Posted Via my Kick @ss BlackBerry Z3004-17-14 05:42 PMLike 2 - Bla1zeCB OGSure. But if my opinion was that the moon was made of green cheese and that Mars was populated by little green men with antennae on their heads, despite having my "right" to that opinion, it would still leave me open to ridicule. Having a right to an opinion doesn't mean that others have to respect the opinion itself, even if they respect a person's right to HAVE the opinion.
The moon isn't made of cheese?04-17-14 05:45 PMLike 10 - That's why handset manufacturers spend millions on advertising, to create the initial demand that triggers proper carrier promotion. Nobody will get blackberry out of the hole other than blackberry.04-17-14 05:47 PMLike 7
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I don't get this. If you are a target for interception, regardless of which platform and snooping body it is, wouldn't the agency want you on the platform they have the most complete backdoor into, and perhaps, the easiest one to spy on--assuming they can all be spied upon, it's just a matter of how easily?04-17-14 05:49 PMLike 3 - The iOS backdoor allows for much more: The NSA has nearly complete backdoor access to Apple's iPhone
I don't get this. If you are a target for interception, regardless of which platform and snooping body it is, wouldn't the agency want you on the platform they have the most complete backdoor into, and perhaps, the easiest one to spy on--assuming they can all be spied upon, it's just a matter of how easily?
Posted via the Android CrackBerry App!04-17-14 06:00 PMLike 0 - There is definitely a misconception about blackberry phones here in the United States, and people need to be educated. Case in point: I was talking about blackberry with one of my coworkers, and he mentioned that Blackberries aren't really smartphones. Mind you he works in IT and has well above average technical knowledge. I had to correct him by letting him know the new BlackBerry 10 operating system is actually very good and on par with Android and iOS.Carjackd and Paisley Pirate like this.04-17-14 06:12 PMLike 2
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