WHAT is Going on Around Here?!
- Seems everything I read these days about Blackberry is negative? When in the name of all that is holy is BB going to start fighting back? This Passport I have is an amazing device yet absolutely NO marketing! I swear if John Chen and Blackberry screw this up, I'm going back to Windows Phone. I love Blackberry and my Passport but I am getting very disappointed in how things are going. There is nothing more for me to do other than shake my head.
Sign me frustrated in Wisconsin06-12-15 09:10 AMLike 7 - If you love the phone and it's working for you, why would you give it up? This attitude is illogical.
Richard06-12-15 09:11 AMLike 8 -
Besides, your answer does not even address my main complaint.06-12-15 09:17 AMLike 0 -
I thought that the Passport is good because it saves you a lot of time and effort, not because it would require more of these resources from you06-12-15 09:26 AMLike 0 - I think the problem is that the CEO is a technocrat. He is good at numbers and quarterly reports but lacks the vision of someone like a Steve Jobs to complete a major turnaround.
This is why you have the fragmented handset offering, a "software company" that makes it exceedingly hard to buy and activate one of its best products (BBM protected) and the staggeringly drunk path the company has walked during this turnaround.
Posted via CB1006-12-15 09:39 AMLike 5 - It's all negative because everyone is comparing BB to Apple and Google, where in reality, the company's strategy and target market is not the same. Apple and Google are targeting the mainstream majority, Blackberry accidentally hit the mainstream and now everyone thinks that because they cant compete with Apply or Google they suck... where in reality, they were never about the mainstream, they do what they do very well, which is security, and enterprise communications, that has always been what they are about, and still about...
as soon as you start comparing them to companies like Apple and Google you are putting them into a bucket which they do not belong in, and unfortunately... the majority of people do not know this nor understand it, so you get a bad rep... Blackberry has nothing to prove to that market, and I don't think they care to... they are the leaders in their industry, and that's what they're focusing on... making a commercial on TV saying "our phone is better" would be a step in the wrong direction.
They wont necessarily ever go away completely, because what they do, they do very well for their target market, and there will always be a need for security and enterprise communication....
not to mention QNX is running on practically everything that needs serious stability and security... but thats a different story...06-12-15 10:06 AMLike 19 - There's more to it than that. I refuse to invest a lot of time and effort in a product that will eventually go away. I prefer to look more long term. For those of you who stay with one phone for years, go for it.
Besides, your answer does not even address my main complaint.
Posted via CB1006-12-15 10:49 AMLike 2 - Then why sell it in consumer stores dude? If you're going to sell it to consumers then at least put a little effort into it. You can start with telling the cellular reps to stop bashing Blackberry and steering customers away.zachgeo and Blacklatino like this.06-12-15 11:09 AMLike 2
- It's all negative because everyone is comparing BB to Apple and Google, where in reality, the company's strategy and target market is not the same. Apple and Google are targeting the mainstream majority, Blackberry accidentally hit the mainstream and now everyone thinks that because they cant compete with Apply or Google they suck... where in reality, they were never about the mainstream, they do what they do very well, which is security, and enterprise communications, that has always been what they are about, and still about...
as soon as you start comparing them to companies like Apple and Google you are putting them into a bucket which they do not belong in, and unfortunately... the majority of people do not know this nor understand it, so you get a bad rep... Blackberry has nothing to prove to that market, and I don't think they care to... they are the leaders in their industry, and that's what they're focusing on... making a commercial on TV saying "our phone is better" would be a step in the wrong direction.
They wont necessarily ever go away completely, because what they do, they do very well for their target market, and there will always be a need for security and enterprise communication....
not to mention QNX is running on practically everything that needs serious stability and security... but thats a different story...06-12-15 11:18 AMLike 5 - OP.... where have you been for the last two years?
I refuse to invest a lot of time and effort in a product that will eventually go away. I prefer to look more long term.06-12-15 11:25 AMLike 0 - And does it seem to you that Apple and Google are satisfied with just targeting the mainstream consumer market? Is that why Apple has a joint venture with IBM which has IBM sales people selling and supporting Apple devices? Carving out an imaginary niche that BlackBerry can have all to itself doesn't constrain competitors in any way.06-12-15 12:12 PMLike 3
- I've read a lot of stupid things here. You win!! "Accidentally" hit the mainstream? You sound like you are making excuses for their prior success and now you are willing to live with and in fact accept failure as their station in the digital world. BB dropped the ball! That's why they are where they are, Not because they were accidentally successful at one point.
And does it seem to you that Apple and Google are satisfied with just targeting the mainstream consumer market? Is that why Apple has a joint venture with IBM which has IBM sales people selling and supporting Apple devices? Carving out an imaginary niche that BlackBerry can have all to itself doesn't constrain competitors in any way.Last edited by Esgetn2hoT; 06-12-15 at 12:53 PM.
Blacklatino likes this.06-12-15 12:41 PMLike 1 - Most of the negativity are coming from a bunch of Android trolls. I wouldn't be too concern about it. BlackBerry have made it clear they are devoted to the device business so worrying about it will make you lose more sleep. Just enjoy what you have presently. I am.06-12-15 12:53 PMLike 3
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And, it worked for a long while. Blackberry absolutely dominated the phone market with as much as 50% of sales by 2008, roughly a decade into their Blackberry phone. Their goal was to continue to dominate, just like any company, and they were on top of the world with their founders having net worth's of $4.5 and $3.5 billion respectively.jojo beaconsfield likes this.06-12-15 01:26 PMLike 1 -
Let's just enjoy the ride. Lots of goods things happening right now.
Posted via CB1006-12-15 02:19 PMLike 0 - 06-12-15 02:46 PMLike 3
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- Actually in this thread(and many like it) the negativity and downright hostility is coming from the Blackberry fans. I guess that will show you OP.06-12-15 03:04 PMLike 7
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- DenverRalphyRetired Network ModI think the problem is that the CEO is a technocrat. He is good at numbers and quarterly reports but lacks the vision of someone like a Steve Jobs to complete a major turnaround.
This is why you have the fragmented handset offering, a "software company" that makes it exceedingly hard to buy and activate one of its best products (BBM protected) and the staggeringly drunk path the company has walked during this turnaround.
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Penned via Tapatalk06-12-15 03:57 PMLike 7 -
- John Chen isnt doing what he promised. He is just not admitting how terrible the situation is right now. John Chen just pretending that everything is fine and BB is going great. @JohnChen if everything is fine, then why do you wish to consider Android on Blackberrys?
He just cant handle it.06-12-15 04:15 PMLike 0 -
- I find the 'NO marketing' thing, pretty interesting....it is 2015, if I have something I want to know, I search for it. 'Spoon feeding' the masses is what the the 'others' do pretty well. They 'sell' emotions and feelings...you 'need' this phone, because it will make you 'feel good'. If I saw a BlackBerry commercial on TV with silhouettes 'dancing' to EDM, I would be in complete utter shock....in my opinion, BlackBerry just needs a focus on marketing the brand. People will come and the ones already in the know, will continue to stay, if they know the brand is still strong. I don't own a BlackBerry Passport for people to accept me, the phones does what I need....end of story.06-12-15 04:50 PMLike 2
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