[kurtla]

Ahhh I don't have ics yet so I wasn't aware of that. I've actually never used a Pearl before so I'm not quite sure how suretype worked. On this, in xt9 mode you tap the button with the letter you want and it gives you suggestions. When you hit space the word in green is selected, like this
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When you tap the abc button it's more like the T9 on old dumbphones where you tap once for the first letter on the button and twice for the second letter. Then of course the 12# button let's you select numbers and symbols.

yeah, its kind of a problem lol. re the 9100, its backed up with a 35k word dictionary so it just completes the words and also pulls from ones custom dictionary, its pretty decent and very hard to type faster than someone that is good with it, I have some friends with 9000 that can keep up with me but that is about it. re your kb, is it part of the htc sense you are running or what, I did not see it on the 1S. so you can type fast and accurate with one hand using that, really? I am not completely closed off to tying again @ some point but I have to get as many features that I am used to on the device and working right before I cut over and give it a decent trial period

[Denise in Los Angeles]

yeah, its kind of a problem lol. re the 9100, its backed up with a 35k word dictionary so it just completes the words and also pulls from ones custom dictionary, its pretty decent and very hard to type faster than someone that is good with it, I have some friends with 9000 that can keep up with me but that is about it. re your kb, is it part of the htc sense you are running or what, I did not see it on the 1S. so you can type fast and accurate with one hand using that, really? I am not completely closed off to tying again @ some point but I have to get as many features that I am used to on the device and working right before I cut over and give it a decent trial period

The SureType on the 9100 is amazing. Adding words to the dictionary makes the typing even faster. I was much faster on the Pearl. All I had to do was type "teq" and it would fill in tequila.

[belfastdispatcher]

You have some verification of this password theft??

Here you go:

Google KNEW it was harvesting emails and passwords during Street View drive | Mail Online


Thiz is why I will never touch an Android phone.

[pantlesspenguin]

yeah, its kind of a problem lol. re the 9100, its backed up with a 35k word dictionary so it just completes the words and also pulls from ones custom dictionary, its pretty decent and very hard to type faster than someone that is good with it, I have some friends with 9000 that can keep up with me but that is about it. re your kb, is it part of the htc sense you are running or what, I did not see it on the 1S. so you can type fast and accurate with one hand using that, really? I am not completely closed off to tying again @ some point but I have to get as many features that I am used to on the device and working right before I cut over and give it a decent trial period

Yeah that's how the compact keyboard and even the regular autocomplete works with the android keyboard. You type a few letters and it'll give you a few suggestions and you can tap on those to enter that word without typing it all out. If the word highlit in green is the word you want you just press space. It also saves words to the dictionary. The compact mode is part of the stock HTC keyboard they call Touch Input. To change the keyboard you use in portrait mode you go to settings, language and keyboard, touch input settings, and you get this



Standard is the regular qwerty keypad, and the phone keyboard gives you 3 letters to each button. You can also set it up to switch between multiple languages. The voice input key will switch to a language toggle.

I had a brief fling with the SGS2 and that was too big of a device for my tiny girlie hands. I think 4"-4.3" is my sweet spot for comfortable one-hand use. Unfortunately the trend is going toward ginormous devices, so I think I'm probably going to be stuck with the Rezound for awhile.

[n8ter#AC]

yeah, its kind of a problem lol. re the 9100, its backed up with a 35k word dictionary so it just completes the words and also pulls from ones custom dictionary, its pretty decent and very hard to type faster than someone that is good with it, I have some friends with 9000 that can keep up with me but that is about it. re your kb, is it part of the htc sense you are running or what, I did not see it on the 1S. so you can type fast and accurate with one hand using that, really? I am not completely closed off to tying again @ some point but I have to get as many features that I am used to on the device and working right before I cut over and give it a decent trial period

I'll gladly type slower for a bigger screen. Sorry, not making much sense to me and judging by how well those devices sale it doesn't make much sense to a lot of people. All of the fast texting records have been set by touchscreen phone users, most using a keyboard like Swype. I know I could typ elike 40+ WPM in swiftkey with about 85% accuract or higher, and that's being hard on myself. It was not a problem at all to type fast.

The only big issue I have with the all touch phones is that most of them use capacitive buttons which cause a whole host of issues when actually using the phone (hitting them by accident when held a certain way, when gaming, etc.).

[psufan32]

I am no stranger to this and 24 hrs is more than enough time to find out if I like something or not - my background is in tech, since 1979.

Your posts make me seriously doubt this.

[cbreze]

Here you go:

Google KNEW it was harvesting emails and passwords during Street View drive | Mail Online



Thiz is why I will never touch an Android phone.

Interesting read, thanks for the link. Not saying it's right, far from it, but a good reason to have a lock code on your wifi.

[D_March]

My experience with android wasn't what i was looking for either. I don't like the OS or the lag I would experience. I recognize many people prefer it but I also know many folks who are waiting impatiently for their contracts to run out so they can move to the iphone. I think it's kind of funny though...it seems whenever someone on crackberry says they don't prefer android...the usual reaction from many people who like android is that you do like it...you just don't realize it.

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[pantlesspenguin]

My experience with android wasn't what i was looking for either. I don't like the OS or the lag I would experience. I recognize many people prefer it but I also know many folks who are waiting impatiently for their contracts to run out so they can move to the iphone. I think it's kind of funny though...it seems whenever someone on crackberry says they don't prefer android...the usual reaction from many people who like android is that you do like it...you just don't realize it.

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Not *quite*. From what I've seen, many times the experience is like the OP's. They give Android a shot for a little bit, it doesn't work like they expect it to so they assume Android can't do this, this, or this. Actually it *does* but just not how it works on BBOS. Other times, people have experiences on bad devices and they think that is what it's like on all Android devices. For example, the lag you mention. I don't experience that on my HTC Rezound. However, recently I got a Samsung Fascinate as a backup phone basically for nostalgia reasons. The T-Mo variant of the Samsung Galaxy S was my first Android phone. Compared to my Rezound the Fascinate is VERY laggy and buggy. It's like someone having a Storm or Tour as their first Blackberry devices. There were widespread problems with those phones. If someone happened to get a lemon Storm or Tour, it really wasn't a good example of what the BB experience could be, but they didn't know any better and they sounded off in these forums.

Also, I've come to realize that the user experience on Android devices varies based on the manufacturer skin. Say someone moves from Blackberry to a Samsung device and hates it, but what they really have problems with is TouchWiz and not the Android OS. Maybe they'd have a better experience using an HTC device with Sense, or vice versa.

I remember my time getting to know the BBOS. At first I hated it. I didn't know how to work it, and it was very frustrating. At first I thought it couldn't do things that my previous devices did, but thanks to this awesome community I was able to understand what I was doing wrong and make the best out of my 9700. To me there's a difference between people with legitimate complaints about the Android OS, and those that claim the OS can't do certain things when it really can, but they didn't take the time to learn how to do it.

[D_March]

Not *quite*. From what I've seen, many times the experience is like the OP's. They give Android a shot for a little bit, it doesn't work like they expect it to so they assume Android can't do this, this, or this. Actually it *does* but just not how it works on BBOS. Other times, people have experiences on bad devices and they think that is what it's like on all Android devices. For example, the lag you mention. I don't experience that on my HTC Rezound. However, recently I got a Samsung Fascinate as a backup phone basically for nostalgia reasons. The T-Mo variant of the Samsung Galaxy S was my first Android phone. Compared to my Rezound the Fascinate is VERY laggy and buggy. It's like someone having a Storm or Tour as their first Blackberry devices. There were widespread problems with those phones. If someone happened to get a lemon Storm or Tour, it really wasn't a good example of what the BB experience could be, but they didn't know any better and they sounded off in these forums.



Also, I've come to realize that the user experience on Android devices varies based on the manufacturer skin. Say someone moves from Blackberry to a Samsung device and hates it, but what they really have problems with is TouchWiz and not the Android OS. Maybe they'd have a better experience using an HTC device with Sense, or vice versa.



I remember my time getting to know the BBOS. At first I hated it. I didn't know how to work it, and it was very frustrating. At first I thought it couldn't do things that my previous devices did, but thanks to this awesome community I was able to understand what I was doing wrong and make the best out of my 9700. To me there's a difference between people with legitimate complaints about the Android OS, and those that claim the OS can't do certain things when it really can, but they didn't take the time to learn how to do it.

In my experience on these forums, you have always been a thoughtful and respectful poster. I think what you're saying is true but I also think what I'm saying is true. There seems to be a little of both going around. At any rate, I can relate to what the OP is saying. My experience has been similar to his.


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[neller2000]

Not *quite*. From what I've seen, many times the experience is like the OP's. They give Android a shot for a little bit, it doesn't work like they expect it to so they assume Android can't do this, this, or this. Actually it *does* but just not how it works on BBOS. Other times, people have experiences on bad devices and they think that is what it's like on all Android devices. For example, the lag you mention. I don't experience that on my HTC Rezound. However, recently I got a Samsung Fascinate as a backup phone basically for nostalgia reasons. The T-Mo variant of the Samsung Galaxy S was my first Android phone. Compared to my Rezound the Fascinate is VERY laggy and buggy. It's like someone having a Storm or Tour as their first Blackberry devices. There were widespread problems with those phones. If someone happened to get a lemon Storm or Tour, it really wasn't a good example of what the BB experience could be, but they didn't know any better and they sounded off in these forums.

Also, I've come to realize that the user experience on Android devices varies based on the manufacturer skin. Say someone moves from Blackberry to a Samsung device and hates it, but what they really have problems with is TouchWiz and not the Android OS. Maybe they'd have a better experience using an HTC device with Sense, or vice versa.

I remember my time getting to know the BBOS. At first I hated it. I didn't know how to work it, and it was very frustrating. At first I thought it couldn't do things that my previous devices did, but thanks to this awesome community I was able to understand what I was doing wrong and make the best out of my 9700. To me there's a difference between people with legitimate complaints about the Android OS, and those that claim the OS can't do certain things when it really can, but they didn't take the time to learn how to do it.

I started with the 3GS, went to a Motorola Droid, back to iPhone 4, then to HTC Thunderbolt and from there to my current Galaxy Nexus. The Galaxy Nexus is amazing with ICS, the speed and flow of the device is amazing compared to the Thunderbolt. Comparing it to an iPhone 4S I would say about equal.

The thing with Android is you have to put a little bit of effort into customizing it to your liking but it's lightyears ahead of the current BB devices. There's almost nothing you can't do with the help of the extensive Google Play store for apps.

I've noticed lately there's not a lot of consumers on ICS yet however. I can guarantee the UI and speed is so far ahead of Gingerbread it's almost weird going from 2.3 to 4.0. BB10 will most likely also be on par with 4S and ICS devices that are out currently.

I didn't really enjoy Android fully until ICS though. It was with the Galaxy Nexus I truly felt it started being on par with iOS.

[pantlesspenguin]

In my experience on these forums, you have always been a thoughtful and respectful poster. I think what you're saying is true but I also think what I'm saying is true. There seems to be a little of both going around. At any rate, I can relate to what the OP is saying. My experience has been similar to his.


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Ditto about you. And I really don't want to come across as an Android fangirl. Android just WORKS for me at the moment, and I just see a lot of misinformation tossed around about it. Let me put it this way, say I was a hardcore Android user back when it was first getting started. I made a place for myself on Android message boards, made lots of friends, etc. Then I started getting interested in the newer Blackberry devices. I made the switch to OS7, but I still hung around the Android message boards because I made friends there and was interested to see where Android was headed while still enjoying the heck out of my OS7 device. But on the Android forums, I saw people slinging around bad information about Blackberry. Being a user of OS7 I knew that what they were saying was false and outdated, so I put my two cents in.

I've used Android for nearly 2 years now, and there is still a lot I don't know about. The majority of what I see here is really just bad information. And perhaps that's a fault of Android, for making the user experience SO DIFFERENT depending on the device one chooses. But it's kinda frustrating to me to see a lot of people complain about things Blackberry doesn't do, that Android currently does. I think some Android devices would be great options for people who are waiting for the same functionality on Blackberry. That's kind of where I am at now.

[belfastdispatcher]

Interesting read, thanks for the link. Not saying it's right, far from it, but a good reason to have a lock code on your wifi.

Point is if they harvest all that info from everybody's wifi neetworks, what do they harvest from their own Android OS?

Another point is how come Rupert Mordoch is in so much trouble for listening to unprotected mobile voicemails yet Google get a slap on the wrist?

[SK122387]

I played with the HTC One S at T-Mobile. It felt great in the hand, I liked that it felt like metal. But then I started using it as I would my 9900 or 9810.....emailing and texting and notes and TYPING. I quickly just let the security wire retract, and set the device down. The clutter of Android is something I'd never be comfortable with.

I feel like Android is something like a shirt......while it might work for some people, a lot of people, it's something I'd just never "wear" in a million years.

[kurtla]

I played with the HTC One S at T-Mobile. It felt great in the hand, I liked that it felt like metal. But then I started using it as I would my 9900 or 9810.....emailing and texting and notes and TYPING. I quickly just let the security wire retract, and set the device down. The clutter of Android is something I'd never be comfortable with.

I feel like Android is something like a shirt......while it might work for some people, a lot of people, it's something I'd just never "wear" in a million years.

well said, clutter is exactly the feeling I had using it. trying out a 9900 for a few days so I can figure out what the heck I am gong to do about a phone

[dandbj13]

This reminds me of the thread a few months ago that was about how the iP4S left a big opening for BB. That didn't turn out to be so. Of course a BB diehard thinks that everything is lacking compared to your phone of choice. But take a step back. The rest of the world might see things differently. The GS3 will sell more in the first week than RIM sells all month.

[BoldtotheMax]

not so sure about that, the tab is like a 7" phone, its maybe not as fluid and fast as some out there but I have had zero issues with it - works great imo for what it is

Which IMO makes your post even stranger. You go out and try a new ICS Android phone, when you have been rocking a Galaxy tab for however long now.

I know that ICS is a little different , but not like night and day from whatever OS you were using on the tab.

Just sayin'.

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[standog100]

I know this a bb forum.....but u guys need to wake up to reality...RIM is a sinking ship....an average Android will do what a bb will never be able to..I own a torch 9810 and a galaxy s2....

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[kurtla]

Which IMO makes your post even stranger. You go out and try a new ICS Android phone, when you have been rocking a Galaxy tab for however long now.

I know that ICS is a little different , but not like night and day from whatever OS you were using on the tab.

Just sayin'.

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would not call it rocking, its a device I use when I travel to europe for the gps walking about, finding restaurants, the occasional call, etc. turns out that they actually removed at least one feature in ics, the ability to have separate volumes for cell and email. anyway, its moot - I will use some sort of bb until dies and if they get it together then i will look at new devices then. glad you are liking the amaze

[standog100]

Are you having issues with the phone model you tested or the Android OS or both?

Either way there are some points you mentioned in your first few posts that are outdated, misinformed, and/or simply wrong/false.

Also, people need to remember that Android runs on a lot of different phones and it runs better on some models than it does on others As far as some of the key issues that you seem to need the most in a phone, no one is going to argue that BB has better keyboards, email, or notifications. But Android and iOS aren't nearly as bad for some features as a lot of people here on Crackberry seem to believe they are. In some cases, Android and iOS are better.

The key is to tally up your phone needs, and pick an OS that suits them best.

But again, no need to go around saying what other OS's can't do or do terribly when, in a lot of cases, that's simply not true.

True talk

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[ritesh]

Yep. Clutter is the perfect description for the Android OS. There is just too much in the OS. Agreed it may do a lot more than what BBOS does, but not everyone wants that 'more' . Some like to keep it simple, which is why Ios is a hit. And with BB10, I'm worried that, it too, will be a 'cluttered' and 'do more' kind of OS, which requires thinking to navigate through the countless OS options.

[qbnkelt]

Yep. Clutter is the perfect description for the Android OS. There is just too much in the OS. Agreed it may do a lot more than what BBOS does, but not everyone wants that 'more' . Some like to keep it simple, which is why Ios is a hit. And with BB10, I'm worried that, it too, will be a 'cluttered' and 'do more' kind of OS, which requires thinking to navigate through the countless OS options.

There is a learning curve to everything. Thinking is required at first, then it's muscle memory.
If BB10 is accessible with reasonable amount of adjustment in approach, there should be no problem.
Liking it....well, that's personal. I hated iOS and Android until I tried them. Now I really like both. And love my BB.



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[skyrocket9]

I have a s3, in white I just purchased it a month ago and I have a 9900.

Each device does something better than the other.

You can't just buy devices because people recommend them. You are responsible for researching your needs ahead of time.

There is absolutely no need to say the s3 is a terrible device, because it's probably one of the best I have used.

I realized I made less calls than three years ago and do more mobile browsing than ever. Because lf this I needed a bigger screen mobile device that was built well (uses plastic, makes it much lighter) the gorilla glass 2 means I won't need a screen protector and I don't even have it in a case.
I had a iPad and playbook which I carried around with my 9900, until I realized I'm carrying tablets around anyway why not just get a bigger all in one device.

I still use my 9900, but I take the s3 with me everywhere. I compose many pdf files on it and use it as my main mobile computing experience even for work (engineering). The beautiful super amoled screen really enhances the beauty of the web. My 9900 did this aswel but I would often use it as a hotspot for my playbook and use that to browse.

Thing I like about the s3.
- widgets
- apps
- light, full screen browsing
- it consolidated all my tablets and phone into one device
- I enjoy the emailing system and notifications
- it has a led notifications light which was major for me because I loved it on my 9900
- it has 2 gb ram and a excellent cpu so I never have lag or crashes (maybe I'm lucky)
- the browsing experience is just amazing

There are things I don't like
- keyboard I'm always fighting it
- the battery (it's not the phones fault but I still wish industry wide battery would improve)
- I also don't like Google (but I don't download stupid apps made by kids or pirated apps... you have to be responsible with any device.)

Thing my bold does better
- keyboard
- batter consumption
- shortcuts and calling (but I do less of that because of email)


I mean, it's a trade off you will never find the perfect device. And it's not fair to be biased like the OP who used it for 24 hours. You shouldn't have even purchased it. Ultimately we are all responsible for what we buy and should research it ahead of time. Lots of people will be buying bb10 without ever having seen it or because it's been recommended. I believe after 24 hours some will react like the OP.

Oh well

[texazzpete]

Over 30 million Galaxy S III phones sold, over 5 million Galaxy Note IIs sold...and more are being sold every minute. by the time the Black Friday and Christmas sales are tallied up, the total number of SGS III devices sold could hit 40 - 45 million or more.

I wonder if the OP feels slightly foolish after seeing how the mass market has embraced large screen phones...the world is moving away from small screens. Even Apple saw this danger and made the (admittedly modest) size bump upwards from 3.5 to 4 inch screens.

[qbnkelt]

for individuals that don't want to lug around a micro tablet, don't care about social stuff, taking pics all the time, etc. As long as they continue to target people that want to get things done fast they are fine. ICS has no concept of profiles or notifications - there idea is to tie the volumes together of calls and email, so if you are on call and want to suppress everything but calls you are out of luck. want to take a quick pic and send it? no chance. want to use your device with one hand? good luck. If you love how your bb does things and you really use it then you will hate the other options, I am sure of it. Sorry for the rant, tried to make a psa out of the post but I failed lol. There goes 24 hours of my life I will never get back and people are excited about the S3 - really? I must be from a different era.

Why can't you take a quick pic and send it? I do it all the time on my Skyrocket on ICS.

****holy necromancy batman!!!!! This thread us from MAY!!!!


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