[Moonbase0ne]

originally from glencoe, same floor @ cook county as the one arm man lol. I tired it for 24 hours, what did I miss, besides what the other 92% see lol

No offense but you have a lot of misconceptions about Android and a lot of false/outdated information. Atleast going by your first couple of posts

And no, I will not bother to make a list for you.

[the_sleuth]

OP, thanks for sharing. Honestly, I thinking going forward, it's going to be harder to WOW customers on the hardware and OS. Look at the media blogs after the release of iPhone 4S, now it's S3.

Although Siri will evolve into something intriguing, and Google Glass represents the future--ubiquity. Technology that's there but a tool out of the way, like an appliance.



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[D_March]

Stop being a fanboy.

He tried it and didn't like it. He's using what he likes. Why does it make you so mad that he doesn't like what you do?

[kurtla]

No offense but you have a lot of misconceptions about Android and a lot of false/outdated information. Atleast going by your first couple of posts

And no, I will not bother to make a list for you.

not outdated - did not catch something maybe, I just returned an htc1s on ics 4.0.3 the other day. I put a solid day into using it. I was not drinking. ok, maybe just a little - but was I imagining all the notification volumes are linked together for example?

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believe me I wanted to love the device, but there was no love, the more I used it the more I could see that it was not a fit. I am not much into tweaking things to get them to do what I want, if I want a sports car I would just get a 997 or a 991, not try and make my S5 to drive like one

[Moonbase0ne]

not outdated - did not catch something maybe, I just returned an htc1s on ics 4.0.3 the other day. I put a solid day into using it. I was not drinking. ok, maybe just a little - but was I imagining all the notification volumes are linked together for example?

Google Groups

believe me I wanted to love the device, but there was no love, the more I used it the more I could see that it was not a fit. I am not much into tweaking things to get them to do what I want, if I want a sports car I would just get a 997 or a 991, not try and make my S5 to drive like one

I was referring to more than just the notification volumes being linked together.

[shaleem]

Well, given that Samsung has overtaken Apple as the #1 smartphone supplier and also overtaken Nokia as the #1 overall phone provider then it is pretty clear that your wants and needs are against the grain of the vast majority of the consuming public..
All the things you are ranting and whining about (in the wrong forum btw) are hghly desirable features to the 92% of US smartphone users who chose other than BB, not to mention that the majoirty of your perceived issues can be overcome with apps.

and yes I own a BB, and would not seriously consider an iphone or android as my primary phone as yet, but despite this fact it does not make me lose touch with market realities

While I believe that what you said has merit, in my opinion, the only "market reality" that matters to me is which device fits my needs. For me, that is my BlackBerry. It is not important to me whether RIM is #1 or #4 or # whatever. I believe that I read that all they want to do is carve out their own niche ..... no comapny can be everything to everyone and it is suicide for any company to try to be. I just want RIM to maintain a credible market presence for my own, admittedly selfish, needs. As long as they appeal to enough people, they aren't going to fold and I think RIM will be around for a long time.

[BoldtotheMax]

So your rock a device for one day and back to your trusty BB. Nothing like giving it a good ole College try huh?

Mostly all that stuff you listed up there Android can do minus the volume thing. And of course no Android phone besides maybe the RazorMaxx can compete with BB on battery life especially a 9100.....

I love Bb and Android, but it is honestly quite noticeable you didn't give it a fair chance.

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[Mystic205]

and your post is completely reasonable and indeed BB is my device of choice too but unlike the op however, neither you nor I are not troll bashing android

While I believe that what you said has merit, in my opinion, the only "market reality" that matters to me is which device fits my needs. For me, that is my BlackBerry. It is not important to me whether RIM is #1 or #4 or # whatever. I believe that I read that all they want to do is carve out their own niche ..... no comapny can be everything to everyone and it is suicide for any company to try to be. I just want RIM to maintain a credible market presence for my own, admittedly selfish, needs. As long as they appeal to enough people, they aren't going to fold and I think RIM will be around for a long time.

[donnation]

Its not about hw - well sort of re battery life, its about the os and if the os does not support core business functions that individuals care about then it does give them an opening imo. I honestly feel like I have been born again after trying the htc, I have never been so happy with my bb for what it does, that's all.

You ARE living in a different era. And the OS that you love is dying a slow and deserved death. The only thing I think you are correct about is battery life, but you are using a really old phone with a tiny screen that doesn't use hardly any power, and is also fairly chunky for its size. The 9900's battery is weak,but thinner is where the market has gone. But for you who uses a phone at its most basic, the 9100 is right for you.

[Mr.Willie]

Well, given that Samsung has overtaken Apple as the #1 smartphone supplier and also overtaken Nokia as the #1 overall phone provider then it is pretty clear that your wants and needs are against the grain of the vast majority of the consuming public..
All the things you are ranting and whining about (in the wrong forum btw) are hghly desirable features to the 92% of US smartphone users who chose other than BB, not to mention that the majoirty of your perceived issues can be overcome with apps.

and yes I own a BB, and would not seriously consider an iphone or android as my primary phone as yet, but despite this fact it does not make me lose touch with market realities

Samsung doesn't release sales numbers anymore. One analyst estimated them selling more, others less.

But the one sure fact remains, Apple has 72-73 % of the smart phone profits, so I would hardly call Samsung #1, even if they were actually selling twice as many phones.

[GeneralTech]

the galaxy s3 isnt ugly it just looks like every other galaxy ever made, the design was not really given much thought. For typing it really depends on whats good for you. I know girls that cant live without a physical keyboard and others that can type flawlessly on a touch screen without looking at the phone itself while driving. What has happened is people have gotten caught up in hype. Spending money on what others consider is the best device rather than simply choosing what works for you. Calling each other fanboys for liking what they like. Its not that big of a deal.

But back on subject i think if blackberry comes out with innovative designs for their high powered handsets and great battery life they will be back in the running. Android makers have forgotten that smartphones are fashion statements now, when someone spends 600-700 bucks on a smartphone they want the thing to look like it. Blackberry has designed the best looking phones the last few years, the torch and the 9900 are both damn sexy devices but they were gutless. Samsung has average looking phones with a truckload of power under the hood.
Iphone 5 has to be able to able to overcome this hurdle as well, the main reason the iphone 4s was so disappointing is that people expected a new cool design. But people still snapped it up because they had never owned an iphone before.

[sinsin07]

the galaxy s3 isnt ugly it just looks like every other galaxy ever made, the design was not really given much thought. ...snip

"The Galaxy S3 is but ugly. It's so ugly it cracked the Daily Mirror. It's a newspaper."

(Bender, Futurama, Season 6 Episode 15)

[psufan32]

He tried it and didn't like it. He's using what he likes. Why does it make you so mad that he doesn't like what you do?

I could care less what he likes or doesn't like - Android, iPhone, Windows Phone, BB, etc. However, his post is the equivalent of standing in Times Square for an hour, and then declaring that NYC is a terrible city and you can't understand why anyone likes it.

If he wanted to have a civil conversation about the strengths and weaknesses of devices and OSs, that's one thing. His intent was solely to troll. If you support blind trolling (which it appears you do because of your support for the OP), then good luck in life.

the galaxy s3 isnt ugly it just looks like every other galaxy ever made, the design was not really given much thought. For typing it really depends on whats good for you. I know girls that cant live without a physical keyboard and others that can type flawlessly on a touch screen without looking at the phone itself while driving. What has happened is people have gotten caught up in hype. Spending money on what others consider is the best device rather than simply choosing what works for you. Calling each other fanboys for liking what they like. Its not that big of a deal.

There are only so many ways that one can take a touchscreen and build around it. The SIII is a much different design than the SII.

But back on subject i think if blackberry comes out with innovative designs for their high powered handsets and great battery life they will be back in the running.

We are past the days of cool designs winning over customers. We are also past the days of OSs winning over customers. Think "ecosystem" today. How does the device incorporate into every aspect of our tech lives?

Android makers have forgotten that smartphones are fashion statements now, when someone spends 600-700 bucks on a smartphone they want the thing to look like it.

The vast majority of smartphones are subsidized, not bought at cost.

Blackberry has designed the best looking phones the last few years, the torch and the 9900 are both damn sexy devices but they were gutless. Samsung has average looking phones with a truckload of power under the hood.

The 9900 was a nice looking phone, but "best looking phones the last few years"? Really?

Iphone 5 has to be able to able to overcome this hurdle as well, the main reason the iphone 4s was so disappointing is that people expected a new cool design. But people still snapped it up because they had never owned an iphone before.

I suggest that you research the iPhone user base, and find out how loyal their customers are. You might be surprised to learn that many iPhone owners upgraded to the iPhone 4S. But, let's not allow reality to get in the way of a good, blind argument...

[Branta]

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[pkcable]

And that goes DOUBLE for me!

[Denise in Los Angeles]

Kurt is not a troll. He is a very knowledgeable and helpful CB member. WHY do people turn every thread into a debate?

[husainpatan]

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CrackBerry implemented new anti-spam systems recently and my banning statistics have slipped below average. The troll-hunting season is open and I'm bored... I leave it for individual members to decide if they wish to try their luck.

I m already been hunted for *foul* language.
Got a well dressed PM today just like the one u posted.

[gregorylkelly]

Not trying to be rude here but I really think that s3 looks pretty ugly. Although it doesn't look like people feel the same way about it.
I'm pretty sure though if this was how the first BB10 phone looked, people would not approve of the design.

I actually like the look of it, but don't like the size at all. Of course, looks change in person when you can see cheap plastic or strong durable metal, but from the pictures I saw, it's a slick looking device. I just really hope the first BB10 device has a "Blade" like look to it. That would be incredible!

[Superfly_FR]

I must confess I was "anxious" with the S3 launch in London.
But nothing impressed me much ... I didn't even went threw the whole video.
So I feel more relaxed now; good weekend !

[Superfly_FR]

CrackBerry implemented new anti-spam systems recently and my banning statistics have slipped below average. The troll-hunting season is open and I'm bored... I leave it for individual members to decide if they wish to try their luck.

... And I can state it bites hard

[SugarMouth]

So true!!! Atleast before bashing it to high H#&%

Agree! I have used Android since day one and the G1 back in '08. It takes more than 24 hours to learn Android. A fair comparison could not be done with someone who used BB for years then picks up an Android for 24 hours.

[kurtla]

here are my receipts, purchased 4/27 @ 1p @ sm - went into the shop in oc on 17th @ 1p and got a new sim and they switched me back. returned everything to pop on 4/30 - full refund, which is common if ones gets a device via a store. I am no stranger to android, I have had a rooted tab for years and run gb2.3.3 on it. The only reason for my adventure was to see if ics was different/better than gb as details were scant. I was also excited about the hw as the reviews were mostly positive. the crux of my post was not to put down a device/os that many like, only to say I can do everything I want, which is limited, faster and with more ease on my 9100 and that rim devices have better notifications out of the box. I also have a 9780 and am pretty good with it. I can type very fast on both devices, the diff being is that I don't have to look down @ all on the 9100. there you have it, have a nice weekend.

[omniusovermind]

I can pretty much guarantee you that anything you can do on OS7 I can do on a 2 year old version of Android, easier and better. You need to learn the OS before passing judgement. You quite clearly have shown us you didn't. OS7 might as well be a Palm Pre covered by undergrowth like some ancient ruin deep in the Amazon jungle.

[kurtla]

oh you can do it all right, just not as fast or with one hand. enjoy your choice, that is what it's all about

[omniusovermind]

oh you can do it all right, just not as fast or with one hand. enjoy your choice, that is what it's all about

I just said I could, and I do, all the time. I have about 10x more sharing options for pretty much every task imaginable including and on top of pictures, not just the 2-3 options OS7 (and iOS) allows.