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    Default The SuperBowl Ad Is Pointless

    The only place where the Super Bowl ads play is the USA.

    The Z10 isn't shipping until mid-March; the Super Bowl is this weekend.

    Assuming the ad is successful, hundreds of thousands of Americans will head to carrier stores saying 'I want the new BB 10' and will be told 'it isn't available yet.'

    Knowing carrier salespeople, in fact, many will be told 'oh, it's not out yet and probably never will be because BB is going bankrupt. How about a nice shiny iPhone or Galaxy S III instead, on a free or $99 deal?'

    BB should save the money that would be wasted on the ad and not start promoting until it has product in the channel to sell.
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    No, its not.
    The best part is, thats the only response needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cpsquires View Post
    No, its not.
    The best part is, thats the only response needed.
    Sure it is. There's no point in promoting a product that you can't buy.
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    You will be able to buy it.
    I think you are confusing your disappointment in the wait time, with its usefulness.
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    Nobody who isn't a hard-core BB person is going to wait almost two months to buy one from when the ad first shows. Sorry.

    BB shouldn't waste the money.
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    you do realize the superbowl is aired in countries that aren't the US right?

    another thing to consider: what if the superbowl ad is just the beginning of a series of ads that will continue to run long after March?? like during MLB etc.
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    Again, you are confusing your personal thoughts with that of everyone. No need to apologize to me. People will see the ad, it will get people talking, it will put blackberry onto websites, discussions, news media, etc. People don't forget things in a day, and many people can wait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brmiller1976 View Post
    Nobody who isn't a hard-core BB person is going to wait almost two months to buy one from when the ad first shows. Sorry.

    BB shouldn't waste the money.
    Much like how you shouldn't waste your time posting this nonsense on a BlackBerry fan site.. lol.
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    No it is not pointless, it is a first attempt at the sports fan, then watch for the March Madness, then Baseball
    advertising works better the more often you repeat the message, so by March the US customers should be
    hypnotized to buy a Blackberry....
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    Quote Originally Posted by brmiller1976 View Post
    The only place where the Super Bowl ads play is the USA.

    The Z10 isn't shipping until mid-March; the Super Bowl is this weekend.
    It's also going to air in Canada.
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    It depends how they do it. There are going to be Super Bowl debuts for trailers for movies that aren't coming out any time soon. The ad is just to build awareness that the film is coming and then people, when the movie is released, will remember how they wanted to see it when they first saw the trailer during the Super Bowl. The same could happen for the phone. Grab some interest with this commercial, and then revive the interest with a more sustained campaign when the phone is available in the U.S..

    So as long as BB thinks of the ad like a movie trailer, ends with a "Coming March 2013" (like a movie trailer), and it is purely an effort to build awareness for an upcoming release, I have no issue with it.
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    So what about all those movie ads during superbowl that you cant go watch yet? Are they pointless as well?
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    How naive are you?
    Do you only think U.S residents watch the SuperBowl?
    There is a whole other country beside the U.S called CANADA that watches it as well, and BlackBerry has confirmed it will be playing in Canada.

    Also, why didn't you just add onto the thread on this exact same topic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 416to604 View Post
    you do realize the superbowl is aired in countries that aren't the US right?
    Yes. With totally separate advertisements.

    Even in Canada, the Super Bowl has Canadian ads (not US ones).

    The big-money Super Bowl ads are for the US market -- encouraging people to purchase a product that they cannot buy, at any price.

    Anybody who remembers Palm's ads for the Pre, months before its availability, will understand why I'm concerned about this.
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    The Canadian news has been reporting that it will be seen in Canada as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brmiller1976 View Post
    Yes. With totally separate advertisements.

    Even in Canada, the Super Bowl has Canadian ads (not US ones).

    The big-money Super Bowl ads are for the US market -- encouraging people to purchase a product that they cannot buy, at any price.

    Anybody who remembers Palm's ads for the Pre, months before its availability, will understand why I'm concerned about this.
    what are the chances RIM will forget to run the ad in Canada? about zero!!
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    Irrelevant. Again, the Super Bowl ad campaign that RIM is boasting about spending millions on isn't in Canada (where advertising for the Super Bowl is very cheap).

    It's in the USA.

    And it's completely, totally wasted money.
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    What BB needs to do with this ad is start rehabilitating its brand. This ad shouldn't be so much about the product (because the OP is right--the product won't be available for another month or so), but about BlackBerry as a company and how they're doing things differently.

    A great deal of advertising has very little to do with the product and more with building a relationship with the brand. That's what needs to be done here, and I wouldn't call that "pointless" at all.





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    Quote Originally Posted by brmiller1976 View Post
    Irrelevant. Again, the Super Bowl ad campaign that RIM is boasting about spending millions on isn't in Canada (where advertising for the Super Bowl is very cheap).

    It's in the USA.

    And it's completely, totally wasted money.
    CTV.
    You know the people who play the SuperBowl in Canada?.... HAVE CONFIRMED IT.
    Want some proof, here:
    WATERLOO, Ont. -- The BlackBerry is ready for game time.
    Research In Motion said Friday that its new operating system will appear in a 30-second advertisement during this year's Super Bowl.
    The announcement comes as RIM prepares to unveil its latest BlackBerry smartphone devices on Wednesday.
    "A Super Bowl commercial is a great opportunity to show the redesigned, re-engineered and reinvented BlackBerry to tens of millions of consumers on the largest advertising stage of the year," said Frank Boulben, chief marketing officer at RIM in a release.
    The ad will be shown in both the U.S. and Canada on Feb. 3.
    The Super Bowl is the most-watched television event of the year, drawing 111.3 million U.S. viewers in 2012.
    In Canada, last year's broadcast drew a record 8.1 million viewers.
    It's also the most expensive event for advertisers, costing an estimated average of $3.4 million for a 30-second spot on NBC last year, according to ratings firm Nielsen.
    Super Bowl advertisements are typically a flashy showcase of new cars, beer and technology products, often with celebrity appearances. Aside from airing on television, the ads also get plenty of mileage from being streamed on the Internet.
    Last year, a Harris-Decima Canadian Press poll found that more Canadians planned to watch the Super Bowl ads than the football game itself.
    Link: SuperBowl ad to feature RIM's new BB10
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    Quote Originally Posted by tdaye View Post
    The Canadian news has been reporting that it will be seen in Canada as well.
    This is true, but it's also true that the ads are separate by country. They could have just decided to run it where the phone is available. But they didn't, deciding instead to build awareness for the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brmiller1976 View Post
    Yes. With totally separate advertisements.

    Even in Canada, the Super Bowl has Canadian ads (not US ones).

    The big-money Super Bowl ads are for the US market -- encouraging people to purchase a product that they cannot buy, at any price.

    Anybody who remembers Palm's ads for the Pre, months before its availability, will understand why I'm concerned about this.
    Im in Canada, I watch the US ads online. There is so much hype about the good ones its hard to avoid. VWs The Force commercial has 50 million views on youtube +, this is not normal however because its one of the greatest ads ever, but the point is superbowl ads have a far greater reach than the US. Blackberry is showing the world that it is stepping up but advertising during the game.

    Comparing the phone to the Pre has been shown to be such a complete waste already I wont even comment on it. Just know that your opinion here doesn't mean much
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcmolineux View Post
    This is true, but it's also true that the ads are separate by country. They could have just decided to run it where the phone is available. But they didn't, deciding instead to build awareness for the future.
    Yes, we all know different countries has different ads.
    The fact that the OP obviously can't take the facts, and is ignoring all the comments who state them.
    Make me think he is a troll.
    Have I really been here for three years?
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    "Oh Canada"..... To my USofA friends.....it will be worth the wait, but we do feel your pain
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    Quote Originally Posted by brmiller1976 View Post
    Yes. With totally separate advertisements.

    Even in Canada, the Super Bowl has Canadian ads (not US ones).
    Just want to clear up a misconception. We get annoyed because we don't get ALL the same ads that are aired in the US (i.e., big money spectacular ones). It doesn't mean we don't get ANY of the ads aired in the US. It depends on what the companies have paid for. And I'm pretty sure BlackBerry would have paid to have their ad shown here too.
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