Slow adoption of BES10?
Since the official launch of BES10 in June 2013, it is noticeable that the downloads for the software for both Android and Apple have been somewhat weak. Downloads of BES10 Client for Android is only within a range of 100 K - 500 K. Reception for the BES10 Client for Apple is poor as well
Good to hear your thoughts on the above.
- CrackBerry Abuser
07-17-13, 11:42 AM #3
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I've had 1-5 coffee's already this morning but even I have to wonder where you got those #'s from..... If the low end of your range is correct for both Android and Apple would be around 200k downloads total at $99 per year its almost 20 Million. (in blackberry's pocket)
- 07-17-13, 11:44 AM #4
- 07-17-13, 11:48 AM #5
Here's the problem. Many businesses have licenses with other MDM services, such as MobileIron, who handle the management of Android and iOS devices. They have invested money into them and many have long relationships with the later companies. As such, to immediately adopt the new service is a little difficult. As well, many are skeptical (my work included). As nice as it would be to have all the devices in one MDM system, BES10's management system for Android and iOS has yet to be proven as being as effective.
I'm hoping we make the switch in time, but for now, we have to wait until our licenses expire next year.
- 07-17-13, 01:12 PM #6
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- 07-17-13, 04:20 PM #7
The hope was that people with BES7 servers would all move to BES10, to manage their BB10 devices along with iOS and Android (since most companies are either going BYOD, or having multiple device options), but it seems that most companies aren't moving to BB10 at all, and are just migrating from BB7 straight to iOS/Android.
BES10's only differentiating feature is being able to manage BB10 devices, so if a company isn't adopting BB10, there's no reason for them to use BES10 over a competing MDM software that manages iOS/Android just fine. That's why it was so critical to BBRY's success to do well with BB10 adoption: other lines of business are tied to BB10's success. Unfortunately, BB10 has fared poorly in the market so far, which means that expectations for BES10 can't be very high either.
- 07-17-13, 04:49 PM #9
Most of our customers have been planning to support three mobile operating systems iOS, Android and either Windows Phone or BlackBerry, MobileIron CEO Bob Tinker told Bloomberg Businessweek. The recent results indicate that BlackBerry is not going to be the third. MobileIron produces smartphone management software currently used by more than 5,000 companies.
BlackBerry had little to say in response to the report, but the company did rehash the solid BES10 figures it has pointed to several times in the past. We have seen a very enthusiastic response to BES10 from our customer base, BlackBerrys SVP of enterprise software Pete Devenyi said, noting that 18,000 companies have tested or deployed BES10 so far. The adoption of BB10 has been very much in accordance with our expectations.
- 07-17-13, 04:52 PM #10
BTW, there are very good reasons for that sometimes. We adopted BES10 pretty much as soon as it became available, and wound up having to scramble a bit to upgrade to 10.1. It wasn't horrible, but frankly we would have been better off just moving straight from 5.0.1 to 10.1.
- 07-17-13, 05:23 PM #11
It will take time to ramp up bit what they have with BES 10 is very solid and levels above competition.
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- 07-17-13, 05:45 PM #12
- 07-17-13, 07:14 PM #15
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- 07-17-13, 07:28 PM #16
What matters are paid accounts. BBRY hasn't given any numbers on those to anyone.
Those companies who are going to roll out BB10 devices are likely to be the majority of BES10 adopters, because they are the only ones for whom BES10 will have an advantage over other MDM products. Companies moving to iOS/Android only can (and likely will) use one of the market leader's MDM products instead. Why wouldn't they? In most cases, those other MDM companies focus solely on MDM, and don't have the BBRY stigma attached to them that comes with stock market losses, talks of take-overs, and other bad press.
BB10 devices have to sell well in order to sell BES10, and to date, they haven't.
- 07-17-13, 09:29 PM #17
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- 07-18-13, 03:47 PM #19
- 07-21-13, 02:11 AM #21
Technically, no, BES 5 can't be "upgraded"; you build a new BES10 instance and migrate all users to it. It is not like Mobile Fusion where you needed to maintain legacy BES alongside, though.
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- CrackBerry Addict
07-21-13, 04:31 AM #22
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No wonder, my company installed bes10 but noone from BlackBerry ever followed up or called us to see how is evaluation going. We are trellia, old bes and bes10 but why would management care for bes10 when when noone from BlackBerry is interested.
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