Sailfish OS looks like BB10

**SHOBOKSHY** · 11-22-2012, 04:13 AM

What do you think of this OS?

**amjass12** · 11-22-2012, 04:29 AM

is sailfish os also known as meego? if so, what I don't understand is that this was in existense before bb10..... so who copied who?

**amjass12** · 11-22-2012, 04:34 AM

the way their version of active frames (although I don't know if they provide live info lile bb10 does) are interactive is simply amazing... I hope RIM have done somethkng like this, cos that's seriosuly one step ahead....

**SHOBOKSHY** · 11-22-2012, 04:41 AM

The only thing BB10 is similar to meego. is the open apps or "Active Frames"

**SHOBOKSHY** · 11-22-2012, 04:42 AM

but the tiles are too small for you to navigate in it

**lboogie_1971_** · 11-22-2012, 05:15 AM

They have 9 active frames. I hope BB10 does what one member called interactive frames. Jolla is demonstrating it's possible

**jrohland** · 11-22-2012, 05:42 AM

Many developers could build a user interface (UI) to sit on top of an operating system (OS) that looks and acts like Flow. Not every developer can employ an OS with many years of proven reliability. Not every developer has security embedded in it's DNA. I'm not saying this MEEGO is unreliable and/or insecure. That is yet to be proven. However, QNX and RIM have a long track record in these areas.

**cjcampbell** · 11-22-2012, 06:39 AM

Originally Posted by lboogie_1971_

They have 9 active frames. I hope BB10 does what one member called interactive frames. Jolla is demonstrating it's possible

I can appreciate this but for me, looking at him utilize that feature on the music app seemed very time consuming. FIrst, in its natural minimized state, the play/pause are so small, you need to be quite accurate, and when he holds the frame and changes it, again, time consuming. Seeing how on BB10, the sheer quickness at which the app goes to full screen, it seems faster to simply tap, open, interact, and minimize again. What they're doing with the frames is cool, but to me, seems impractical.

**dentynefire** · 11-22-2012, 07:02 AM

^^ I agree. When opening an app is so fast it's "almost" useless having the frames interactive...aside from eye candy.

Also where is Peek, HUB, and the keyboard? I like that RIM took an open source OS and made it their own.

**leejayh** · 11-22-2012, 07:17 AM

It looks nice! But given the challenges of users, service, support, etc - maybe this will work in emerging countries - but in any first and second world country - that will be tough....

**SuperionMaximus** · 11-22-2012, 10:17 AM

Well, Actually it's based on Harmeten which has been around allot longer then BB 10.

Over all BB 10 looks more polished and consistent then sailfish though. But what I like better in Sailfish and even better in Harmaten is that the there is a user customizable dock rather then the BB 10 "action bar" consisting of three non-changeable icons that do not match the rest of the OS. Its PERFECT in Harmaten as it is hidden by default and the BB 10 Peek gesture reveals it from within any app. This is the best implementation but Sailfish at least allows the dock to be customized with apps that the user chooses and uses the standard app icons. BB 10 is the worst implimentation of this concept to date.

**RECOOL** · 11-22-2012, 10:26 AM

Well nokia dropped meego.And a another persons rubbish is a another persons treasure.

RIM took some elements from meego/N9 and made it their own.Actually took it up a notch made a play system.The active widget is not bad idea but it works on just a few levels imo.It would be good for quick drop down menus of say sport scoreboads,calender I would say music but you have buttons for next,previous and pause on BB's so kind of negates it.Its not a bad idea for some things maybe some developers will add that to their apps for BB10.

The way RIM has it and how quick & slick the peek,flow system is there's no need to be doing things in tiny boxes.Surely you want to make use of this big screen and see all information available to you.Blowing things up having full view and being able to put away your app quickly is much better than messing around with active widget thing.The dude had to blow up the the tile eventually and all he did was go back to messing around with active widget so kind of a waste.

Full view>small box view.These guys pretty much just sold their OS off and wont be supporting it why didn't the team just ask RIM for some jobs.I think RIM should patent that fading effect and incorporate it into some apps its pretty cool.

**Masahiro** · 11-22-2012, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by cjcampbell

I can appreciate this but for me, looking at him utilize that feature on the music app seemed very time consuming. FIrst, in its natural minimized state, the play/pause are so small, you need to be quite accurate, and when he holds the frame and changes it, again, time consuming. Seeing how on BB10, the sheer quickness at which the app goes to full screen, it seems faster to simply tap, open, interact, and minimize again. What they're doing with the frames is cool, but to me, seems impractical.

Not to mention you could just use the volume rocker and pause button on the side of the phone. Heh.

**mathking606** · 11-22-2012, 03:37 PM

Well I think they look alike since I heard that TAT that is now owned by rim were the ones that designed the Meego OS UI too so that is why they are so similar. As for how it looks I like the Interactive frames but i dont know if u would need the making a call from the active frame since we already have it in that row along the bottom and the active frames for BB10 seem more refined.

**Bobert_123** · 11-22-2012, 04:44 PM

Rim needs to call up their team of lawyers and go full out Apple on the creators of this OS!!

**amjass12** · 11-22-2012, 08:07 PM

Originally Posted by mathking606

Well I think they look alike since I heard that TAT that is now owned by rim were the ones that designed the Meego OS UI too so that is why they are so similar. As for how it looks I like the Interactive frames but i dont know if u would need the making a call from the active frame since we already have it in that row along the bottom and the active frames for BB10 seem more refined.

if that is indeed the case, then the active frames that RIM have shown us might just be interactive also, for things like media player.... but have not shown the world yet as they want to keep it a secret until launch day.....

**howarmat** · 11-22-2012, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by amjass12

if that is indeed the case, then the active frames that RIM have shown us might just be interactive also, for things like media player.... but have not shown the world yet as they want to keep it a secret until launch day.....

but why keep it a secret? I agree they should be interactive but its not something to keep secret IMO

**amjass12** · 11-22-2012, 08:35 PM

well, not a secret as such, but to save some things for launch. thor mentions In his keynotes that there's more to show that they are saving for later so maybe this might be one of the things, although I agree with you tbh. they have already shown avtive frames, so might as well show all of it. ( if they have implemented that feauture)

anything they do save to show later should be truly new and unseen.

its just that with the previosu comment saying this other os was designed by the tat founder, who then moved to RIM, would only make sense to me that if they do implement there initial ideas such active frames, that they would also add the interactive functionality that the other os has. the ability is there and has been shown. it would be nice to have it on bb10 also, as it does look good, and adds another dimension to the active frames.

also when they showed of the keyboard initially, they hadn't shown the way it handles multiple languages till later on... so you never know....

I guess I would just like to see this feature implemented quite badly myself as I think its good looool......