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LOL! Thought same thing when I finished....probably only 10% shorter - and 68% more sloppily written! OH well...think one can get the general points even what if - such as - grammer and speling and; sentence structure - such as - poor...I put a hyphen in front of some lines so that makes it ok! ;-) I beleeve Americans such as, should help the Iraqi's...or Americans, because many of them don't HAVE maps....THAT was a greatly reduced summary? Oh boy...
I do like reading your posts though
10-12-13 11:48 AM - I'm relatively new here, though I've lurked for a lot longer than I've had an account. I---who likes BB and recently bought a Q10 unlocked despite everything---actually find the "toxic threads" entertaining, because I like to argue and I like to watch arguments. On a very similar thread, I made an observation that I'm about to reiterate here:
This is a common problem across the internet in a variety of contexts, especially in forums focused specifically on a topic/idea/product. There are basically two types of people who come to forums like these. Or at least...it's a spectrum between two poles. One pole is the enthusiast pole. People close to this pole are people who are here because they want to bond over a product they like, have constructive discussions about what they like about it, what they're going to do with it, and generally be enthusiastic about a common topic/product of interest.
There is another pole: the Argument Clinic people. They want to prognosticate the future, defend/attack ideas, deploy their awesome rhetorical skills, vent their disappointments---or explain why other people shouldn't be disappointed---and so on. As I said, I kind of belong more in this category, at least in terms of how I click on thread titles
There is a communication problem. The Argument Clinic people cannot understand why the Enthusiasts are frustrated with them and with the forum. The Argument Clinic people think that the Enthusiasts are head-in-the-sand ostriches, suffering from "epistemic closure" to reality, and wanting to police debate so that real and pressing issues cannot be discussed. And some of the Enthusiasts really *are* head-in-the-sand ostriches, but there's not a few of them who *know* the problems, but don't feel they need to be reminded of it or that they should constantly have to defend their enjoyment of the product or have the constant experience of a seeing a fly in their soup.
I sympathise somewhat with the Enthusiasts, although personally I find pure Enthusiast forums rather boring myself, because I am an Argument Clinician. They didn't come to a (what they see as a) BlackBerry-fansite to have their mellow constantly harshed by complainers. The Z10 and Z30 and Q10 are darn good phones---not perfect, and evidently not very popular, but so? They think, why can't people just agree to enjoy them, or to leave a space for this kind of emotional bonding and satisfaction, instead of carping every single time about the way that Thor betrayed their obviously doomed Playbook or whatever?
So, instead of an Armchair CEO forum, what the moderators should actually have done was create an BB Enthusiast forum, where discussion of the WHERE THE COMPANY FAAAIIIILED is verboten, and people can finally enjoy the technology they like...10-12-13 02:43 PM
Rant: Toxic Topics
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