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    Quote Originally Posted by njblackberry View Post
    Part of the reason other devices have succeeded is that they are easy enough for a 3 year old to figure out.
    Heh. My friend's four year old figured out my PlayBook when we weren't watching and managed to launch Modern Combat 3 on it. I have faith :-)
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    Consumers these days see enough commercials and advertisements to somewhat know what type of phone they want and what it can do. RIM just needs to advertise what the phone can do and that's where we'll see if there is a change in RIM's marketing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by njblackberry View Post
    If you have to be shown how to use it, it is too late.
    I don't think so. The Android notification curtain is something that has to be shown to anyone who hasn't used Android, but it's hardly a spoiler for the platform. BB10 gestures are innovative, and it's the nature of anything new that people won't automatically know how to use it. That's not a problem if what they're being shown is simple and easy to learn--and BB10 gestures are just that. This doesn't rise to the level of "training."
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    Good thread. When BB10 comes out we will all have a learning curve..........however, the is what CrackBerry.com is all about. Just post your question and you will be answered
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    Default No Buttons...not intuitive. How will they teach prospective users?

    If the new Meego-inspired Jolla which only runs on full swipe gestures gets some decently good reviews, I don't see how a "buttonless" BB10 is that "non-intuitive."

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    I'm getting my education right here! Watching all of these vid clips and reading all of these postings. As with anything new, one can ALWAYS expect a learning curve. It is the only way to keep up with and make technology advancements. If RIM can create and implement a device that is going to be able to be used one handed, I highly doubt they are going to design an OS that can not be learned by most people in a few short minutes. It would not make any sense in the least.

    When the iphone was introduced and other touch screen devices starting replacing non touch screen phones, don't forget all of those people coming from a non smart phone or an earlier BB with a keyboard had to learn the swipe gestures and over all new O/S of the phones they were switching over to. No difference here.

    Think of all of these new cars that are coming out (Fords etc) that I am seeing advertised that can self park. I would rather learn to swipe and make a mistake then plow into a $50,000 car if something goes haywire. I'm sure the insurance companies are going to love that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by njblackberry View Post
    If you have to be shown how to use it, it is too late. Part of the reason other devices have succeeded is that they are easy enough for a 3 year old to figure out. That's not an insult (well, it is a little insult). If it requires training, people won't want it. Make it slick, fast, easy to use and stable. That's all. Of course having a touchscreen will be a change for many, but I'll give it a chance.
    That's funny you say that, my three year old gets around my playbook fine. IF I see a apple or android user struggling I am for sure going to find it funny that a three year old can work it and a adult can't, if that is the case they should run from all tech hardware asap!!!

    If anything, I think anyone who gives it a REAL chance,and then tries to go back to another device without swipe capability, they will be trying to do the blackberry gestures on their devices and will be surprised when they can't. This was what I found after owning a playbook and then testing a work ipad. Not having the ability to swipe in and out of apps and screens seems old and archaic to me. The playbook and BB10 has the true multitasking feature to be able to do that without having to back out then back in.
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    Remember when the PlayBook first came out and the reviewers were all like "The power button is soo small and hard to press, boo hoo....". It's small because it's not needed. When's the last time you used your power button? Gestures all the way!
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    Many devices are now gesture based in one way or another, maybe not as heavily based as PB but it is to a certain extent. So most consumers nowadays will instinctively use several common gestures when they initially encounter BB all-touch devices and then learn from there. I don't think things are or will be as hopeless as it was initially (especially with the younger generations). However, the evidence that people are still trying to figure out how to go all-gesture and no buttons does show that PB's approach was ahead of its time in that regards, and RIM takes this onto the next level with BB10 and L-series phone. I believe, inevitably, the home button will disappear as people are weaned away from it.
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    I think we can all agree that in the beginning it may take a couple minutes or seconds to get used to just like on almost any other platform, well maybe except apple but apple's iOS is simple because it is bland and many people are getting bored of it so..
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    Quote Originally Posted by DuexNoir View Post
    Many devices are now gesture based in one way or another, maybe not as heavily based as PB but it is to a certain extent. So most consumers nowadays will instinctively use several common gestures when they initially encounter BB all-touch devices and then learn from there. I don't think things are or will be as hopeless as it was initially (especially with the younger generations). However, the evidence that people are still trying to figure out how to go all-gesture and no buttons does show that PB's approach was ahead of its time in that regards, and RIM takes this onto the next level with BB10 and L-series phone. I believe, inevitably, the home button will disappear as people are weaned away from it.
    Android and the iPad are more "gesturey" than the Playbook, which actually uses them pretty sparingly nowadays. Sure, it doesn't have many buttons, but it doesn't have many gestures either. If you spend a good amount of time with an iPad or Android tablet (running Jelly Bean) and actually try to learn how to use them, you'll find that you may end up doing much less tapping as opposed to the Playbook.
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    Quote Originally Posted by badiyee85 View Post
    If the new Meego-inspired Jolla which only runs on full swipe gestures gets some decently good reviews, I don't see how a "buttonless" BB10 is that "non-intuitive."

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    Where have you seen any reviews for the Jolla OS that isn't anywhere close to release?
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    Found this while couch surfing on my PlayBook:

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    I'm sorry if this comes off as harsh (ok not really) but the QNX and BB10 swipe UI way of navigating the device is so freakishly easy to use, if someone can't get the hang of it in as much times as it takes to make coffee or toast, then I'm left wondering how long they stand in front of a door that says "push" right on it with a perplexed expression on their face. Dear lord.
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    Blackberry should setup displays at the retailers and cellular shops that has a small monitor looping a video of how to use and BB device and how the new BB 10 OS is being used by individuals. Also/Or, they should have a demo phone that has a program/app imbedded in it on how to use the phone. The user follows along with the app mimicking the gestures needed to operate the phone, and then they will get to the final screen and unlock the device to see the other features of the phone. After the user places the phone on the display’s docking station the App starts up again (basically a reversed holster action) waiting for the next customer to come by and want to learn how to use the device or skip to directly to using the phone.
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    Default No Buttons...not intuitive. How will they teach prospective users?

    Quote Originally Posted by texazzpete View Post
    Where have you seen any reviews for the Jolla OS that isn't anywhere close to release?
    By the virtue of claims made by the fellas promoting Jolla. I haven't seen a review, but the fellas who did them DID say its a swipe based OS.

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