View Poll Results: What Glass should RIM use for their BB10 Screens?

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  • Gorilla Glass 2

    24 72.73%
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    2 6.06%
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    6 18.18%
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  1. GTiLeo's Avatar
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    hmm this glass looks liek its simply just a tempered glass, i wonder how it would stack up against a sparkplug.


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    what type of glass is used on the 9900, i thought it was plastic i just scratched it with a blade and its glass, i'm effing impressed, i've abused the heck out of this phone and well it doesn't even have a scratch on it
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    My Photon is Gorilla Glass, and still going strong, and I pocket carry it with my Style. I do use a Trident Aegis case, similar to an Otterbox Commuter, only nicer and blue, and it has handled a couple of drops just fine. The glass is easy to clean, too.

    For 10, I'd expect a decent screen, and GG would be fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by filmgirl View Post
    Try again. Corning makes Apple's glass and always has. In fact, what is now marketed as Gorilla Glass was reintroduced by Corning in 2007 for the first iPhone. Apple doesn't use brand names when it describes it's components. Hence, you don't hear Samsung Cortex A9 chip specially designed by Apple, you hear A5 or A6.

    Just like they don't put Intel Inside stickers on their computers.

    But Corning has ALWAYS been Apple's glass supplier, long before other companies (including RIM) even used glass.
    Corning has supplied glass to thousands of manufacturers of electronic devices around the world....what you're not getting is that it's just that, glass, thin glass for screens...generic glass; not Gorilla Glass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alnamvet68 View Post
    Corning has supplied glass to thousands of manufacturers of electronic devices around the world....what you're not getting is that it's just that, glass, thin glass for screens...generic glass; not Gorilla Glass.
    And you're not getting that the reinforced glass the iPhone uses IS Gorilla Glass. It's the same exact stuff. Corning has told me on MANY occasions. Now, I think Apple's dual-glass design on the 4/4S has made the phone more susceptible to breaking, because the stainless steel band acts as a poor buffer to side or diagonal drops. Still, the phone falling off a bed and onto a hardwood floor (something my 4S does roughly 4x a week) leaves it damage free.

    With most assemblies, the surrounding casing is as important as the glass -- provided the glass is treated. RIM does an excellent job with its housings, so I don't see their BB10 phones as being breakage magnets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stewartj1 View Post
    With all the smashed iPhone and iPad screens I've seen i think anything other than whatever they're using although perhaps the design and engineering of the case is also a factor.

    Whatever they're using on my 9800, 9900 and PB seems really tough. I seem to drop all of them(especially my 9800) and have only just recently cracked a screen after a direct face down hit on a pointy rock.
    It's funny, I wonder what all the cracked screen people are doing! LOL. Well, most cracked screens of any kind I've seen tended to involve pathetic drunk antics!

    I was worried about my iphone after reading the glass criticism, yet I've dropped it many times, and it's been fine. It makes me laugh because I had no case for it the first few months, and dropped it a couple times, but have had a case on it since (not on the screen though)....the other day, I took the case off to clean it, forgot to put it back on, then in the middle of loading up a weighted backback, a headlight, and a handful of other things for an night hike, I literally took the uncased iphone and inadvertently chucked it right over my shoulder onto the street! NOT a scratch on it, though I'm sure luck is a huge factor! I just don't think the iphone is particularly fragile, though it is pretty heavy, which makes me feel like that could aid in delivering some impact!

    I think most of the premium phones have probably been pretty equal in durability though.
    Fact is, no matter what you make it with, some will break, some people will break there phone early (some due to stupidity, some not), and there will be sad/angry people. Especially with the touch screens....just so much screen to break! LOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by filmgirl View Post
    And you're not getting that the reinforced glass the iPhone uses IS Gorilla Glass. It's the same exact stuff. Corning has told me on MANY occasions. Now, I think Apple's dual-glass design on the 4/4S has made the phone more susceptible to breaking, because the stainless steel band acts as a poor buffer to side or diagonal drops. Still, the phone falling off a bed and onto a hardwood floor (something my 4S does roughly 4x a week) leaves it damage free.

    With most assemblies, the surrounding casing is as important as the glass -- provided the glass is treated. RIM does an excellent job with its housings, so I don't see their BB10 phones as being breakage magnets.
    You'll have to do better than that. My niece is an engineer at Corning and she says that Apple not only does not use Gorilla Glass, that the glass they do use doesn't come from Corning. It's supplied by a Chinese concern. Nice try though; I give you an A+ for most misinformed spin.
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    Oh please yes....I hope they would.
    Sorry, should clarify....voted for Gorilla Glass. I love it on my Skyrocket. As to what's on the iPhone...I don't know and I don't pretend to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by howarmat View Post
    I say they should use whatever they already have bought and are ready to use. To late in the game to be changing stuff around when the "hardware is ready"
    I do not think that it is too late in the game. Apple was able to change their iPhone from a plastic screen to a glass screen within six weeks, and the new Blackberry devices are not going to be available for at least another four months.

    I would think and hope that they would have some type of resilient screen. It also should somewhere be disclosed in their specs, otherwise consumers would assume that it is just glass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alnamvet68 View Post
    You'll have to do better than that. My niece is an engineer at Corning and she says that Apple not only does not use Gorilla Glass, that the glass they do use doesn't come from Corning. It's supplied by a Chinese concern. Nice try though; I give you an A+ for most misinformed spin.
    Well you should have your niece update Corning's web page.

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    I doubt Corning would link to a video that claims that the iPhone is made out of Gorilla Glass, if it wasn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alnamvet68 View Post
    You'll have to do better than that. My niece is an engineer at Corning and she says that Apple not only does not use Gorilla Glass, that the glass they do use doesn't come from Corning. It's supplied by a Chinese concern. Nice try though; I give you an A+ for most misinformed spin.
    Gorilla Glass was not new to Corning in 2007. It's actually from something like the 60s (I forget exactly) but Corning shelved it as they never found a market for it. When Jobs came with his request, the glass found new life.

    You can google for the excerpts from the Isaacson Jobs biography in which Corning CEO Wendell Weeks recounts the rather peculiar discussion he and Jobs had at the time.

    I like glass screens and glasses are getting better every generation. GG2 would be a nice choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NakedPaulToast View Post
    Well you should have your niece update Corning's web page.

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    I doubt Corning would link to a video that claims that the iPhone is made out of Gorilla Glass, if it wasn't.

    Well, let's make sure the video is easy to find so that we can take care of any true misinformed posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Efstathio View Post
    I do not think that it is too late in the game. Apple was able to change their iPhone from a plastic screen to a glass screen within six weeks, and the new Blackberry devices are not going to be available for at least another four months.

    I would think and hope that they would have some type of resilient screen. It also should somewhere be disclosed in their specs, otherwise consumers would assume that it is just glass.
    There is a point in development where the possibility of changes are closed. At this time, it is probably too late to change the salient characteristics of the phone, including the hardware. These phones are supposedly already in testing....or they should be, if we're going to go for a Q1 release.
    It's not the change itself that is problematic, it's where in the development cycle a change occurs. Build and software are locked before going to carriers. The only time there are changes from that point is if there is a catastrophic failure in the design, discovered during testing, that affects the usability of the device.
    Example, the whole "antennagate" for the iPhone 4 *SHOULD* have been discovered during internal testing and the phone sent back to the drawing board.
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